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Except for Gen V, which got only one Mega Evolution. Besides, it also prevents Gen I Pokemon from becoming outclassed/obsolete from the constant power creep going on with newer Pokemon.
And even then, said only 5th Gen Mega is more defensive than offensive.
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old pokemon = attracting older players
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At a business standpoint, I suppose it make sense. I dont mind there being only Kanto pokemon with Alolan forms, but I would like to see more regardless of what generation they come from.
You need to make a distinction between "older" players and "the fans who've played since the series began." There are high schoolers (who, compared to the target audience of children, are certainly classified as "older" fans) whose first game was Diamond or Pearl. Pokémon is an old enough series now that gen 1 pandering doesn't always cut it when trying to draw in "older" fans or play to their nostalgia.
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You need to make a distinction between "older" players and "the fans who've played since the series began." There are high schoolers (who, compared to the target audience of children, are certainly classified as "older" fans) whose first game was Diamond or Pearl. Pokémon is an old enough series now that gen 1 pandering doesn't always cut it when trying to draw in "older" fans or play to their nostalgia.
This is actually a really good point. I was thinking people that grew up with gen 1 as their first game, but you are right. I would qualify as an "older fan" having played Diamond as my first game. I suppose Gamefreak IS pandering too much to gen 1...
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Old October 13th, 2017 (9:43 AM). Edited October 13th, 2017 by Pyrax.
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    It could be Gamefreak is just focusing USM's pre-release info on Necrozma and new Z-moves. For all we know, the final trailer could very well reveal Alolan forms.

    I wouldn't be so sure until the dex is revealed, whether through a datamine or ingame.
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    Old October 13th, 2017 (1:39 PM). Edited October 13th, 2017 by IcyIce.
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      It isn't confirmed, nor will it be till the games come out. Look at what we have gotten. We have hardly gotten anything, not even any news on new areas, we have just seen 1 or two here and there.

      By October 14 last year, not even half of the alolan forms had been revealed. We had to find a number of them in the wild. We wouldn't have known about some of them if not for Datamining.

      Also, the people saying that new pokemon attract only new people, not that is completely and utterly wrong. I hate seeing all pokemon and I have been playing these games since Red and Blue. So don't say stuff like "Old Pokemon = Older people" Because that is wrong.

      If not for new pokemon, I probably wouldn't even continue to play pokemon. Why they are all over Gen 1, I don't even know. To a minority it was the best, but to large majority of current fans, other regions are their favorite.


      We are in an alternate time line or universe. With more pokemon that SM in the wild, so why wouldn't there be a chance at a few Alolan Pokemon? There are over 100 added pokemon to the pokedex. We even have 3 new pokemon that were added.
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        I really don't think we can draw such a conclusion just yet, honestly, but I wouldn't be surprised given how close we are to the release date. It's just a month away - but then again, that's plenty of time to tell us what's going to be included.

        If there aren't any, which is what I expect at this point, I'll be rather disappointed. That seemed like one of the central "gimmicks" of the generation and it was executed so well! To release more games on Virtual Console but not have corresponding new Alolan forms is a missed opportunity for marketing, and a missed opportunity for the creative direction of the games. These games will likely close out the very long DS/3DS line of generations, so it really would be nice to pack them as full of new content as possible.
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        But what's the source for this so called "no new alolan formes" claim? Please link it, and maybe I'll believe you.

        Anyway, I don't care either way. Alolan Formes were just gimmick, so.
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          Hmm... Alolan Jynx is going to be a thing?
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            Hmm... Alolan Jynx is going to be a thing?
            Where did u find it ?
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              Hmm... Alolan Jynx is going to be a thing?
              Certainly a fake because Jynx has a cross-gen pre-evolution. All of the Alolan forms of Kanto Pokemon have no cross-gen evos nor Mega Evolutions.
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              Hmm... Alolan Jynx is going to be a thing?
              Source to this claim?
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                What about Raichu, Raichu has a cross-gen pre-evolution in Pichu. I still think this is a fake leak because apparently it was discovered that Jynx might have a new Pokédex entry in Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon which mentions it singing. Jynx's entries talk about how it dances or how it sounds like human speech. Another part of the leak said that there is an Alolan Beedrill that is Bug Rock. While the leak seems fake because of this information, there still is a possibility of an Alolan Jynx. If there isn't then that means that Jynx will be added to the Alolan Pokédex.
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                  I really wanted a Poliwag Alola form. I really like Poliwag...
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                  Certainly a fake because Jynx has a cross-gen pre-evolution. All of the Alolan forms of Kanto Pokemon have no cross-gen evos nor Mega Evolutions.
                  Remember that Raichu's lowest stage is a cross-gen Pokemon!
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                    It has become increasingly more likely that there be no new alolan forms. However, we could see some when games are released even though the chance is small.
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                      The chances of new forms are getting slimmer each day it seems
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                      Old November 3rd, 2017 (8:52 AM). Edited November 3rd, 2017 by Blue.
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                      Presumably there's another trailer next week which still could reveal new Alolan forms, after that though I wouldn't expect to see any announcements since the games will be released the following Friday.
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                        I wouldn't lose hope. GF does from time to time like to surprise us. I feel that there will be more Alolan forms, but not as much that were added in S/M. This will be the last Pokemon game before they move it to the switch, so I feel like they will go all-in on this game. Not saying that they will have an Alolan form for ALL Kanto pokemon, but still.
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                        Wait, no new Alolan forms? What about Rainbow Rocket? Isn't it Alolan form of Team Rocket?
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                          I would love to have alolan forms for other regions Pokemon besides the Kanto's ones
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                            It is official. No new alolan forms. They were not important for the games anyway. Obviously z moves were the returning feature.
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