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    A fusion of the three Unova dragons wouldn't be a Kyurem form, simply because the original dragon is not Kyurem... Kyurem itself, however, is a constituent of the original dragon.

    The DNA Splicers are one of the big mysteries of Pokémon IMO... The games never clarified Kyurem's origin or what the items were originally supposed to do. We do know Kyurem was part of the original dragon, though, because Ghetsis mentions it. However, all evidence to me points out that the splicer fusions are artificial, possibly ways devised by humans to rebuild the original dragon, but they're a failure since they can't fuse all three, nor can they fuse Reshiram with Zekrom. The only reason they work on Kyurem is because Kyurem is a husk, a leftover, the embodiment of a void, which is then filled by one of the opposing dragons, but the husk is not strong enough to contain both Reshiram and Zekrom, hence a three-way fusion is impossible.
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      A fusion of the three Unova dragons wouldn't be a Kyurem form, simply because the original dragon is not Kyurem... Kyurem itself, however, is a constituent of the original dragon.

      The DNA Splicers are one of the big mysteries of Pokémon IMO... The games never clarified Kyurem's origin or what the items were originally supposed to do. We do know Kyurem was part of the original dragon, though, because Ghetsis mentions it. However, all evidence to me points out that the splicer fusions are artificial, possibly ways devised by humans to rebuild the original dragon, but they're a failure since they can't fuse all three, nor can they fuse Reshiram with Zekrom. The only reason they work on Kyurem is because Kyurem is a husk, a leftover, the embodiment of a void, which is then filled by one of the opposing dragons, but the husk is not strong enough to contain both Reshiram and Zekrom, hence a three-way fusion is impossible.
      We actually don't know if Kyurem is part of the Original Dragon and may never know. Ghetsis says he is, but there is so many conflicting data from first and second games that each may not have been proof read as thoroughly to not have inconsistencies. Kyurem is capable of fusing with EITHER Zekrom or Rehsiram, not both. If he is the remains of the original then the power should still be able to be reabsorbed back into the original body. It still states that the dragon split itself equally into two Pokemon.

      Even in their world, Ghetsis could have made a mistake with gathering his information. That would be a cause for the inconsistencies to exist and it would show that Gamefreak did it on purpose. There are many mysteries in the Pokemon World. Majority of them revolve around Legendary Pokemon.

      If Reshiram and Zekrom wanted to fuse together they could if Gamefreak allowed and would push even more inconsistencies into the fray. They would also perfectly balance one another as Yin and Yang are 2 halves to balance. They are all that's needed to create balance. There are still too much incomplete information that Gamefreak will never clarify until they feel the need to do so. All we have is Fan made assumptions to believe or disbelieve.

      The chance they fix this in Gen 6 is pretty much non-existent. DNA Splicers are pretty much going to keep the same effect they have based on how the Gracidia and Grieous Orb kept their functions the exact same.
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        Unless they start introducing in game updates to older Key items such as a former Plasma scientist (Corless?) has found a way to perfect the DNA splicers after you get them and it to him...which I don't think they'll do. Most likely if they wanted to create a three way or a fusion of Zekrom and Reshiram they'll make a new item. Also the very nature of the item is unknown...who's to say that the brothers (or was it their kids?) didn't make them as a way to fix their mistake which caused the dragon to split into two, yet their attempt failed, after all the Splicers are said to be ancient technology.

        Anyways do you guys think we'll start getting more Pokémon revealed occasionally after this reveal, or do you think we'll go back into the same news drought we've had after Sylveon?
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          I say there's a 50/50 chance that it will either have a post-Sylveon drought again or start slowly make occasional reveals. If it's the former, then after the end of that drought it will be occasional reveals.
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            @zoroarkrules25: I was one of those people who weren't all that crazy with the Gen V Pokémon during prerelease so I know. I may still be iffy on the designs of some of the Gen V Pokémon but I have no grudge on them otherwise now. I know people will get over the Mewtwo form thing eventually (I'm starting to think it's real now since it's been 2 days and no one can official say it's fake and that nobody has stepped in and say they are the creator) but I haven't seen this much rage from the Internet since the announcement that Bayonetta 2 will be a Wii U exclusive.
            That is true, i have also come to notice that often the hated fakemon are actual pokemon. We most likely would have herd from the creator as you said by now and i believe that it is real because the only thing people said was wrong with it, was that it was the same as the first poster but we clearly saw with kelado's that nintendo is a bit lazy to change the poster just because a new form of the movie's mascot is announced.

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            No legend evolves and no Legend has an alternate form that was never introduced in the same generation. There is no Legendary Pokemon that has an alternate form that was introduced outside of its initial release.

            Deoxys, the first Pokemon with a Form Change was based on game cart for the 3rd Gen titles. Attack for Fire Red, Defense for Leaf Green, Speed for Emerald, and Normal form in both Ruby and Sapphire.

            Next Legend(s) with new forms are Giratina and Shaymin. Both were introduced in D/P and both got new forms in Platinum which was part of the same generation.

            Meloetta received her Alternate form in the same game she was supposed to be revealed in though she was released fairly late.

            Last Legendaries to receive new forms are the Kami Trio, Kyurem, and Keldeo. All three were still part of Generation 5 games when they were both introduced and received a new form.

            And yes Saturday will prove it wrong or right. International news is being posted. What ever appears on Smash will be the focus of CoroCoro the next week since it will also be on the Pokemon main websites. CoroCoro doesn't give off more info than the main websites and the main websites always give the info of CoroCoro within the same release. Since this release is a week before CoroCoro the news will all pretty much coincide with one another. They'll give a view of the new Pokemon on Smash, Saturday's international update will give a little more info, and CoroCoro will give the Japanese populace the same info. Same thing happened with Sylveon.
            Yes, i know that all pokemon get new forms in their own gen which is why a few pages back i said it would constitute a big announcement if one got a new form out of it's gen. Also coro coro has given different info then smash has in a week before, so it could happen again.
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            Im kind of expecting a news drought after this reveal, whatever it is. The first couple months have been kinda slow, so I dont see many reveals around the same time happening until it gets a bit later, like during the summer, then I see us getting more tidbits of info outside of just CoroCoro.
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              If anything, they'll ramp up the info in the month leading to release. Otherwise, I can't predict. Maybe three months before they'll post more screenshots and another trailer.

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                Yes, i know that all pokemon get new forms in their own gen which is why a few pages back i said it would constitute a big announcement if one got a new form out of it's gen. Also coro coro has given different info then smash has in a week before, so it could happen again.
                All of the info we have received from CoroCoro has been posted either on the Main Pokemon Site first or airs on Smash. Barely anything relating to Generation 6 has been different between the three sources. Even with Sylveon. We got Main Site Info, CoroCoro and then Smash in which case Smash showed us only what we already knew. Same has happened in reverse when Smash first aired Pokemon X and Y info before CoroCoro after the International news segment.

                I'm not comparing this to what happened with Black and White. I'm not comparing this to what happened with Black 2 and White 2. So far, all three medias give us the exact same info as far as Pokemon X and Y are concerned and none of the three have ever introduced information that was not shared with the other two.

                Therefore what ever airs on Smash will be the highlight of CoroCoro Next week. Likewise all the info we get added to Pokemon.com is going to be the bulk of the info we get in CoroCoro. Since the info is so close together this go round, CoroCoro may not even have any news on X and Y at all.

                Like Shining Celebi says, there may be another info drought after this Saturday's info depends on how big it is.
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                  The Sylveon announcement was quite small imo, so hopefully it won't be another small one. I'm hoping they show us two new Pokemon instead of one this time aka the video and the Pokemon behind the card are different.
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                    I'm so excited for the Saturday reveal. I hope they'll reveal Sylveon's type honestly, but I'd rather have more new Pokemon revealed or the evolutions to the new starters. It seems that they've been rather unpredictable with their information, though...
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                      Do you guys think we'll get the same news Tomorrow that we'll get in Coro Coro ?
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                      Nah, I don't think there'll be any CoroCoro until next week. For now... as far as we know, Pokémon Smash will be the first to reveal huge information about Pokémon X and Pokémon Y.

                      And this huge information could be alot of stuff, including the revealing of the new region that Pokémon X and Y will be in. I'm probably assuming the region will be somewhere on the north-west coast of France.

                      Other possible things they would reveal... would be Sylveon's type. Alot of us feel that it's going to be Flying-type or Normal-type, and as much as I wish it would be a brand new type... it might not be a new type. But yeah... it's names (including the ones spoken in other languages) is definitely pointing in the direction of a Flying-type as much as we speak. It's a very high chance that they could reveal Sylveon's type on Pokémon Smash this Sunday.

                      I do feel as if that new forme of Mewtwo is real, I'm sure it would be confirmed on Pokémon Smash as well, along with gameplay footage of it battling. But it looks so amazing though, I'm hoping it does become a reality and then Mewtwo will regain it's place as having the highest Special Attack than any other non-event Pokémon, just as it used to be before White Kyurem took it's place.

                      I'm also assuming they'll reveal one or two new Pokémon that will appear in the game, either it will be pre-evolutions or evolutions of older Pokémon or they'll be entirely new Pokémon altogether.

                      We'll just have to watch Pokémon Smash to see what they reveal, I'm so excited! x3
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                        I meant do you guys think that the info we get tomorrow will be repeated in Coro-Coro or will coro have some fresh news.
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                          Honestly, we're still pretty early as far as getting any info is concerned, even if it is April. I remember mentioned before that we still have the summer as well as some of Fall ahead of us before we finally get our hands on the games, so I expect something substantial to pop up during the summertime probably, but most likely not now.
                          Yeah, and I'd prefer small teases anyway. If they reveal a couple of Pokémon and new information every so often it will keep fans excited and avidly speculating about what's to come. If they give us heaps of info so soon, the excitement will die a bit over the summertime.
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                            I think so! I'm more interested to see what'll come today, given that the big announcement/reveal is meant to be "today" internationally (I guess....?) sooo it'd be in the next few hours maybe, and therefore couldn't be Smash?? /hoping for double up of information lmao
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                              Isnt it over yet or nothing was revealed?
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                                  Anyone want to play a guessing game for the new pokemon? Just to see how many get it right.

                                  What will it's primary (most obvious) colour be?
                                  If the type is revealed, what type will it be?
                                  Will it be based on an animal or an inanimate object?
                                  Will it be an evolution of an older pokemon, pre evolution of an older pokemon or a completely new pokemon?
                                  If it's a completely new pokemon, will it be announced on it's own or will it's relatives also be announced?
                                  If it's weight and height is revealed, what will they be?
                                  Will it stand on four legs, two legs or no legs?

                                  My answers:

                                  What will it's primary (most obvious) colour be? White
                                  If the type is revealed, what type will it be? Normal
                                  Will it be based on an animal or an inanimate object? Animal
                                  Will it be an evolution of an older pokemon, pre evolution of an older pokemon or a completely new pokemon? New pokemon
                                  If it's a completely new pokemon, will it be announced on it's own or will it's relatives also be announced? On it's own
                                  If it's weight and height is revealed, what will they be? 22lbs and 1'05"
                                  Will it stand on four legs, two legs or no legs? four legs

                                  Feel free to add your own questions you think are relevant.

                                  I'm being very safe and saying this reveal will probably be the regional rodent, be white and normal type and be small and fairly cute.
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                                  I'm hoping we get more than just a few tidbits of information, but rather maybe one or two Pokemon silhouettes/reveals, maybe a new gameplay trailer of some sort and whatever else won't reveal all too much about the game but will somewhat satisfy our near insatiable hunger for X/Y spoilers. :P
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                                    I hope to see a Sableye evolution this generation, idk with Sableye being a part of the upcoming movie I feel as if it's about the right time to add on a new evolution to it's line.
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                                        I doubt we'll be getting info on the transfer this early on. I imagine if they are going to show it it'll be in September or right before the release in October.
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                                          All of the info we have received from CoroCoro has been posted either on the Main Pokemon Site first or airs on Smash. Barely anything relating to Generation 6 has been different between the three sources. Even with Sylveon. We got Main Site Info, CoroCoro and then Smash in which case Smash showed us only what we already knew. Same has happened in reverse when Smash first aired Pokemon X and Y info before CoroCoro after the International news segment.

                                          I'm not comparing this to what happened with Black and White. I'm not comparing this to what happened with Black 2 and White 2. So far, all three medias give us the exact same info as far as Pokemon X and Y are concerned and none of the three have ever introduced information that was not shared with the other two.

                                          Therefore what ever airs on Smash will be the highlight of CoroCoro Next week. Likewise all the info we get added to Pokemon.com is going to be the bulk of the info we get in CoroCoro. Since the info is so close together this go round, CoroCoro may not even have any news on X and Y at all.

                                          Like Shining Celebi says, there may be another info drought after this Saturday's info depends on how big it is.
                                          Ok, i can see your point there. As for today's reveal i feel like it will include one of the things i stated before or it will have a sableye evolution like stated and or it will have an evolution to a previous pokemon.
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