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Old July 5th, 2012 (6:47 AM).
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    ive been figuring out this team for a while now via pencil & paper and im pretty happy with it at this point. i am breeding some of them to get them to have certain natures and moves. im still stuck on parts and im not sure if any of my moves or items are forbidden

    Pokemon 1: Kingler
    Nature: Naughty
    Holding: Leftovers
    moves: Brine, Crabhammer, Bubblebeam, ????

    Pokemon 2: Victreebel
    Nature: Rash or Modest
    Holding: miracle seed
    Moves: Razorleaf, Leafstorm, energyball, giga drain

    Pokemon 3: Delibird
    Nature: Hasty
    Holding: bright powder
    Moves: Blizzard, Icebeam, ????, ????

    Pokemon 4: Corsola
    Nature: Relaxed
    Holding: ????
    Moves: Mirrorcoat, Lucky Chant, Toxic, Waterpulse

    Pokemon 5: Ledian
    Nature: Calm
    Holding: light clay
    Moves: Lightscreen, Reflect, Safeguard, Bugbuzz

    Pokemon 6: Hitmonlee
    Nature: Adamant
    Holding: Kings rock
    Moves: Close Combat, Reversal, High Jump kick, Brickbreak

    any feedback would be nice. and again tell me if any of the moves or items are illegal for wifi battles
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    Old July 5th, 2012 (7:08 AM).
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      Aren't these Pokemon NU? I seriously recall these Pokemon being NU in 4th gen...
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      Old July 5th, 2012 (7:20 AM).
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      You need EVs for your team just so you know. It's also not a good idea for all your moves to be the same type on all your Pokemon because that seriously limits coverage.

      Don't use Special moves on Kingler ever because its Special Attack is terrible. It has a decent physical move pool and it should take advantage of it, though it will cost you some TMs and BP or maybe some breeding:
      -Agility (egg move)
      -Swords Dance
      -Crabhammer
      -Return
      Nature: Adamant
      EVs: 68 HP/252 Atk/188 Spe
      Item: Life Orb
      Ability: Hyper Cutter

      or
      -Crabhammer
      -Return
      -Rock Slide
      -X-Scissor/Superpower
      Nature: Adamant/Jolly
      EVs: 32 HP/252 Atk/224 Spe
      Item: Choice Band/Choice Scarf
      Ability: Hyper Cutter

      Don't use all Grass moves on Victreebel; it's currently walled by Steels. It's also better off in Sun teams because of its Chlorophyll ability. Tangrowth is a better choice because of its better move pool (offensive and support) and much better bulk:
      -Sleep Powder
      -Stun Spore
      -Power Whip/Leaf Storm
      -Earthquake/Hidden Power (Ice)
      Nature: Impish/Bold
      EVs: 172 HP/120 Atk/216 Def
      Item: Leftovers

      Corsola is terrible. Seriously. Its bulk and offenses are mediocre and its defensive typing is poor. You already have Kingler as your Water Pokemon, so how about a Fire Pokemon for your FWG core, like Arcanine?:
      -Flare Blitz
      -ExtremeSpeed
      -Thunder Fang/Hidden Power (Grass)
      -Morning Sun/Crunch
      Nature: Adamant/Jolly
      EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
      Item: Life Orb

      Delibird and Ledian are terrible, like Corsola. Both have 4x weaknesses to Stealth Rock as well as below average stats. Donphan can fit in one of those spots to serve as a Rapid Spinner/Stealth Rock layer:
      -Stealth Rock
      -Rapid Spin
      -Earthquake
      -Stone Edge/Ice Shard/Roar
      Nature: Adamant
      EVs: 252 HP/252 Atk/4 Def
      Item: Leftovers

      Even though Qwilfish shares a weakness with Kingler, it makes a fine lead with Spikes:
      -Spikes
      -Explosion
      -Waterfall
      -Taunt/Aqua Jet
      Nature: Jolly
      EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
      Item: Focus Sash

      Hitmonlee is better off with this set to maximize its coverage:
      -Close Combat
      -Stone Edge
      -Earthquake
      -Blaze Kick/Mach Punch
      Nature: Jolly/Adamant
      EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
      Item: Choice Band/Choice Scarf
      Ability: Limber

      or
      -Close Combat
      -Stone Edge
      -Earthquake/Blaze Kick
      -Sucker Punch/Mach Punch
      Nature: Adamant/Jolly
      EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
      Item: Life Orb
      Ability: Limber
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      Old July 5th, 2012 (7:38 AM). Edited July 5th, 2012 by TheElricKNIGHT.
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        they might be, i might have looked at the wrong list, im new at this

        Thanks for the input Dude. ill definitely go with some of those. 0_o i clearly have a lot to learn
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