Binary Hack Research & Development
Code Move Resource Thread Page 19
Started by Spherical Ice April 22nd, 2013 10:29 PM- 289649 views
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For now I only know how to merge animations, and I am one of those who replace graphics (in this case, attack particles and BG)
I am slowly learning how to make animations
Yeah, create a complete new animations is not easy at all...I am slowly learning how to make animations
By the way, you are able to re-create the particles shown in the video i linked? I see you are good at graphics
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Yeah, create a complete new animations is not easy at all...
By the way, you are able to re-create the particles shown in the video i linked? I see you are good at graphics
Not really, since those animations really ... in my opinion, they must be fake.By the way, you are able to re-create the particles shown in the video i linked? I see you are good at graphics
That video must be edited, or the one who made those modifications must be a professional haha
Not really, since those animations really ... in my opinion, they must be fake.
That video must be edited, or the one who made those modifications must be a professional haha
The second one. He was one of best ASM rom hacker, but then disappeared.That video must be edited, or the one who made those modifications must be a professional haha
Anyway i talk about particles, since both of you did the same Scary Face particle sprite, i think you can replicate the others, like his Fire particles? You already did a great job with Fly BG 🤔
Sorry for the late response! I kinda hit a dead end with the animation stuff and took a break. My pointers and offsets are all fine. I triple double checked that. I initially believed that my issue could stem from the fact that I'm editing an already hacked ROM, but I did some testing with this animation and here's what I found:
First, I checked Dark Pulse's animation in MrDollSteak's 1.5a rombase, and it works fine. It looks like the Uproar with little Will-O-Wisp flames coming out and has the Faint Attack background. I checked the location of the animation code in the rombase. The only difference between his and mine (besides the pointers) is that he put the smaller parts of the code before the main chunk (in order) whereas I put mine after. He also stuck in a few bytes of free space between each part as a buffer, but I think that's more so he could tell what part was where when you look at the hex, not because it was necessary. I don't do that because I like to consolidate space. I write down the offset values elsewhere to keep track.
Then I tested the animation in a clean Fire Red ROM where I added Dark Pulse (in the same location so I didn't have to change my offsets & pointers), and it crashed too! That means that my already hacked ROM isn't the issue, or at least it's not likely to be. Just to be sure, I even positioned the code how MrDollSteak did (fixing the pointers this time), and it also crashed.
Because this animation consistently freezes after the background is set, the next segment(s) of the attack must be the issue. I think it's trying to call for a sprite, particle, or effect that comes from some table in the ROM that has either been moved or that isn't present at all. I know that some of the move animators imported or made custom sprites/particles for making new moves like this, but I don't know how to look for them or add them in if that's what I'm missing.
Basically, I have 3 options going forward:
1. I miraculously find a way to fix this animation or find someone who can help me fix it. This is ideal, but probably not gonna happen any time soon.
2. I start over from scratch using MrDollSteak's rombase. This is definitely not the route I want to take because his rombase includes a lot of things I don't want. For just wanting to add in a few moves from Gen 4, all the extra baggage is a hefty price to pay for working animations.
3. I make a new animation myself. I wouldn't be opposed to this because I have an idea of what can work. Going off of MrDollSteak, Water Pulse with the Faint Attack background and the Will-O-Wisp fire sprites sounds good. It's basic, but hey if I can get it to work, I don't care. Gen 3 animations aren't super glamorous anyways. The issue with this option is that I have zero experience with making animations, and the resource threads on here for doing that aren't easy for me to understand. I would need a helping hand with that.
So yeah that's where I'm at
IF ANYONE ELSE BROWSING THIS THREAD CAN HELP, PLEASE PM ME
I don't really understand how to "replace backwards", can you give me an example? I have been trying for 2 days but the animation is always not working. @@
First, I checked Dark Pulse's animation in MrDollSteak's 1.5a rombase, and it works fine. It looks like the Uproar with little Will-O-Wisp flames coming out and has the Faint Attack background. I checked the location of the animation code in the rombase. The only difference between his and mine (besides the pointers) is that he put the smaller parts of the code before the main chunk (in order) whereas I put mine after. He also stuck in a few bytes of free space between each part as a buffer, but I think that's more so he could tell what part was where when you look at the hex, not because it was necessary. I don't do that because I like to consolidate space. I write down the offset values elsewhere to keep track.
Then I tested the animation in a clean Fire Red ROM where I added Dark Pulse (in the same location so I didn't have to change my offsets & pointers), and it crashed too! That means that my already hacked ROM isn't the issue, or at least it's not likely to be. Just to be sure, I even positioned the code how MrDollSteak did (fixing the pointers this time), and it also crashed.
Because this animation consistently freezes after the background is set, the next segment(s) of the attack must be the issue. I think it's trying to call for a sprite, particle, or effect that comes from some table in the ROM that has either been moved or that isn't present at all. I know that some of the move animators imported or made custom sprites/particles for making new moves like this, but I don't know how to look for them or add them in if that's what I'm missing.
Basically, I have 3 options going forward:
1. I miraculously find a way to fix this animation or find someone who can help me fix it. This is ideal, but probably not gonna happen any time soon.
2. I start over from scratch using MrDollSteak's rombase. This is definitely not the route I want to take because his rombase includes a lot of things I don't want. For just wanting to add in a few moves from Gen 4, all the extra baggage is a hefty price to pay for working animations.
3. I make a new animation myself. I wouldn't be opposed to this because I have an idea of what can work. Going off of MrDollSteak, Water Pulse with the Faint Attack background and the Will-O-Wisp fire sprites sounds good. It's basic, but hey if I can get it to work, I don't care. Gen 3 animations aren't super glamorous anyways. The issue with this option is that I have zero experience with making animations, and the resource threads on here for doing that aren't easy for me to understand. I would need a helping hand with that.
So yeah that's where I'm at
IF ANYONE ELSE BROWSING THIS THREAD CAN HELP, PLEASE PM ME
I created a tool called the Move Animation Creator which allows you to create/combine/manipulate your own move animations via a user interface and without touching a single line of code! Hopefully this tool can help you guys. https://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=457087
I don't really understand how to "replace backwards", can you give me an example? I have been trying for 2 days but the animation is always not working. @@
I think you meant to respond to the post I quoted, but I can still help you with that.First of all, the animation might just be busted and doesn't work anyway.
Secondly, I think that guy was talking about the difference between offsets and pointers, so here's a little crash course.
An offset is the location for a byte in memory. They are denoted 0xXXYYZZ or XX YY ZZ, where XX, YY, and ZZ are "digits" represented as bytes. In a hex editor (I use hex workshop, highly recommend it), every byte has an offset, and you can find it by highlighting or clicking on which byte you want. Think of how you use the index of a textbook. If you need to find information (the byte), the index gives you the page number (offset) where you can find it.
A pointer is a configuration of bytes that points to an offset.
To create a pointer for an offset:
1) take the offset --> XX YY ZZ
2) switch the first and last byte --> ZZ YY XX (I think that's where the "replace backwards" comes from)
3) add the byte "08" to the end of it --> ZZ YY XX 08
...and that's your pointer!
Offsets will be different for everyone because you can insert hex code pretty much anywhere. Because of this, move animators already include the ending byte "08" and leave the rest of the pointer (the ZZ YY XX part) to be filled out.
Let's use move animations as an example.
Move animation hex is sometimes broken up into a main part and a secondary part (or parts) that the main part points to. If that's the case, you'll see ZZ YY XX in the main part. That means you need to insert a pointer. But where do you make it point to? To the offset where the secondary part of the code begins.
Let's say I'm adding a move animation into my ROM, and I need the pointer for offset 0x123456 where the secondary part of the code starts.
1) break the offset down into bytes: 12 34 56
2) flip the first and last bytes like so: 56 34 12
I've been exactly where you are: struggling to learn about ROM hacking because these basic things either aren't explained or they're detailed in a few posts hidden among a million others. The learning curve is steep, but I hope this helps. Also check out the post below yours. ortz3 made a Move Animation Creator which might make your move animations a thing of the past. Good luck!
I made a Google Sheet that lists all the attack effects in FireRed by their value as the row, with the second column being example attacks for the effects not named within PGE's Attack Editor. I also tried to list which effects don't skip the 'applying damage' part of the move, but I've probably missed a lot of those. All of the boxes left blank in the first column are not used by any move nor are named within PGE's Attack Editor.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1EtF4CVOuGHVBRvy10d0VzKLEczaELjpI-x3lnQXLE5k/edit?usp=sharing
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1EtF4CVOuGHVBRvy10d0VzKLEczaELjpI-x3lnQXLE5k/edit?usp=sharing
Update
It is now 100% working, Psystrike/Psyshock and Secret Sword effect :
It is now 100% working, Psystrike/Psyshock and Secret Sword effect :
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I know this is an old post, but I could not get this to work; Inputting code at 69918 causes the game to freeze when I use almost any attacking move.
Edit: This keeps happening:
Edit: Actually, an infinite loop occurs:
I've made a custom Jaw Lock move effect!
In free space, put:
2E 85 3E 02 02 20 02 03 22 00 07 04 7E 1D 08 28 XX XX XX 08
While the XX XX XX don't need to insert +1:
00 01 5E 69 1D 08 00 00 02 03 04 05 06 07 09 0A 0E 5C 00 3A 0B 00 0C 00 0D 12 40 00 0F 12 40 00 E3 00 47 69 1D 08 29 04 CC 3D 02 02 20 47 69 1D 08 1E 00 15 08 94 1D 08 21 00 00 04 00 00 00 27 8F 1D 08 16 10 8F 00 12 40 00 28 4E 69 1D 08
Special Thanks to HMA tool, made by haven.
In free space, put:
2E 85 3E 02 02 20 02 03 22 00 07 04 7E 1D 08 28 XX XX XX 08
While the XX XX XX don't need to insert +1:
00 01 5E 69 1D 08 00 00 02 03 04 05 06 07 09 0A 0E 5C 00 3A 0B 00 0C 00 0D 12 40 00 0F 12 40 00 E3 00 47 69 1D 08 29 04 CC 3D 02 02 20 47 69 1D 08 1E 00 15 08 94 1D 08 21 00 00 04 00 00 00 27 8F 1D 08 16 10 8F 00 12 40 00 28 4E 69 1D 08
Special Thanks to HMA tool, made by haven.
King Shield, Spiky Shield, Quick Guard, Wide Guard, Crafty Shield, Mat Block
[SPOILER]
With kleenexfeu telling me a wonderful trick to compile multiple different type of resources together in just a single click that he used in his Emerald Mega implementation too, the protection moves are also implemented using the same trick which makes it ridiculously easy to insert any resource when using ASM.
Emerald:-
I inserted the script, and I was unable to get Wide Guard to protect against spread moves. Also, implementing this causes Yawn to bypass Protect without playing the move animation. (I know this thread is old.)[SPOILER]
With kleenexfeu telling me a wonderful trick to compile multiple different type of resources together in just a single click that he used in his Emerald Mega implementation too, the protection moves are also implemented using the same trick which makes it ridiculously easy to insert any resource when using ASM.
Emerald:-
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I configured the move table to match my ROM's Wide Guard ID.
Heal Pulse for [EM]:
Battle Script:
Battle Script (bytes):
Animation (bytes):
Battle Script:
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Battle Script (bytes):
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Animation (bytes):
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