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Old June 26th, 2018 (5:04 AM).
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    Hey,

    i since a couple of days it seems that the forum doesn't display imgur images (.gifs) anymore (i have one in my signature and use them in my gamedev thread. I can view those images from all other places i'm using them.

    Anyone an idea why?
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    Old June 26th, 2018 (5:28 AM).
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    Apparently Imgur has recently blacklisted us from using image hotlinks unfortunately. There is no real solution to this as it is completely out of our control. I'd recommend using another site for uploading images.
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    Old June 26th, 2018 (7:35 AM).
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      That's a shame, I only have imgur for image hosting, the other sites I tried in the past became premium only.

      I hope this is not a permanent thing.

      It does seem like imgur has gone downhill nowadays, they say things are a lot more moderated to suit the advertisers. It's certainly not as good as it was a few years ago.
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      Old June 26th, 2018 (10:42 AM).
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      For the broken images, I think ibb would be a good alternative. For the forum in general, or anyone really.
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      Old June 26th, 2018 (10:27 PM).
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      Hotlinking from imgur is supposed to be allowed on forums (according to their ToS) so I think we could work something out with them
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      Old June 26th, 2018 (11:30 PM). Edited June 26th, 2018 by Avatar.
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      Apparently Imgur has recently blacklisted us from using image hotlinks unfortunately. There is no real solution to this as it is completely out of our control. I'd recommend using another site for uploading images.
      This not exactly correct. PC is effectively using Imgur as a CDN and that's why the site has been blacklisted. If it had only been a few images I doubt the blacklist would've been enforced but as it stands multiple themes use Imgur for quite a lot of images.

      I don't think this will be fixed in any other way than finding another site to take its place as a CDN.
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      Old June 27th, 2018 (12:00 PM).
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      Might be worth having one of the admins contact them about getting us whitelisted if it’s not being done already.
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      Old June 27th, 2018 (8:05 PM).
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        This not exactly correct. PC is effectively using Imgur as a CDN and that's why the site has been blacklisted. If it had only been a few images I doubt the blacklist would've been enforced but as it stands multiple themes use Imgur for quite a lot of images.
        That's really... very poor design decisions when there's more controllable choices. Even 2000's web programming teaches, if you are serving "editorial line" along with your central functionality (company logos, themes, interface icons for example) then you deliver those yourself or via the CDN to which your hosting is already suscribed, not via a general use site.

        Would a good first measure be to first fix the PC themes to serve from PC or Cloudflare and stuff and then get to talk to imgur? Showing a first gesture of work as an opening move kind of thing.
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        Old June 27th, 2018 (8:40 PM).
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        That's really... very poor design decisions when there's more controllable choices. Even 2000's web programming teaches, if you are serving "editorial line" along with your central functionality (company logos, themes, interface icons for example) then you deliver those yourself or via the CDN to which your hosting is already suscribed, not via a general use site.

        Would a good first measure be to first fix the PC themes to serve from PC or Cloudflare and stuff and then get to talk to imgur? Showing a first gesture of work as an opening move kind of thing.
        There’s a few oversights which allowed this to happen; I was intent on serving stuff like icons to PC, so I guess I’ve been forced to do it now, haha.

        Any other broken images you find (that aren’t posts by other users) need be pointed out so we can deal with it. There shouldn’t be too many cases.
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        Old June 30th, 2018 (7:03 PM). Edited June 30th, 2018 by Wunkolo.
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          So it looks like it blocks purely based on the Referrer field of the html header. Which browsers automatically put when embedding images onto a page.

          Code:
          curl "https://i.imgur.com/fpXE2BJ.gif" -H "Referer: https://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?p=9896065" -i
          HTTP/2 403
          retry-after: 0
          content-type:
          accept-ranges: bytes
          date: Sun, 01 Jul 2018 02:53:09 GMT
          x-served-by: cache-lax8624-LAX
          x-cache: MISS
          x-cache-hits: 0
          x-timer: S1530413589.190726,VS0,VE0
          access-control-allow-methods: GET, OPTIONS
          access-control-allow-origin: *
          server: cat factory 1.0
          content-length: 0
          but if you remove the referral then it works just fine of course

          Code:
          curl "https://i.imgur.com/fpXE2BJ.gif" -i
          HTTP/2 200
          last-modified: Tue, 20 Feb 2018 18:46:48 GMT
          etag: "7872661ad1b19794f9191f46c2d1d8e6"
          x-amz-storage-class: STANDARD_IA
          content-type: image/gif
          cache-control: public, max-age=31536000
          accept-ranges: bytes
          date: Sun, 01 Jul 2018 02:55:15 GMT
          age: 192
          x-served-by: cache-iad2137-IAD, cache-lax8625-LAX
          x-cache: MISS, HIT
          x-cache-hits: 0, 1
          x-timer: S1530413716.778418,VS0,VE1
          access-control-allow-methods: GET, OPTIONS
          access-control-allow-origin: *
          server: cat factory 1.0
          content-length: 245448
          Chrome automatically injects these referrals into the header for cross-domain requests:
          chrome_2018-06-30_19-59-06.png

          At the moment the best client-sided fix for Chrome is to run chrome with the "--no-referrers" command line option.

          As in running chrome via:
          Code:
          C:\Program Files (x86)\Google\Chrome\Application\chrome.exe --no-referrers
          Then these images all seem to work.
          This is a very general fix and will fix other cross-domain blocking that imgur is doing such as on GameFAQs and such.
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          Old July 2nd, 2018 (5:37 PM).
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            So it looks like it blocks purely based on the Referrer field of the html header. Which browsers automatically put when embedding images onto a page.

            --- snip---
            I tried disabling HTTP referrer in Firefox using the about:config setting Network.http.sendRefererHeader, but it doesn't seem to make a difference. I'm not very familiar with this, so just wondering if you have any suggestions for the Firefox browser? (It's the only browser I have access to in my corporate environment).
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              Old July 5th, 2018 (2:10 AM). Edited July 5th, 2018 by Sersch7.
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                On Topic: Any news? Is there still hope the admins might fix this issue with imgur?
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                Old July 5th, 2018 (11:16 AM).
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                On Topic: Any news? Is there still hope the admins might fix this issue with imgur?
                Last I heard, the admins have reached out to imgur and are awaiting a response from them.
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                Old July 5th, 2018 (11:28 AM). Edited July 5th, 2018 by Enpatsu Shakugan.
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                  Pretty sure it's been remedied.
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                    yep it's all fixed
                    Thanks for letting me know. I just tested it on the desktop wallpaper thread and it works fine.
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