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Old September 24th, 2017 (12:08 PM).
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    All 3 of them are super powerful and clutch, but which one has the advantage overall?
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    Old September 24th, 2017 (6:09 PM). Edited September 24th, 2017 by Radiating.
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    I'd say Squirtle/Blastoise has a bigger advantage throughout the whole game. Blastoise overall has less type match up weaknesses against the Kanto Bosses. (Gym Leaders & Elite Four). It also has pretty good defenses, with a decent Special Attack. It can take on both a Charizard and Venusaur using strong Water and Ice type moves.
    (Surf, Hydro Pump, Ice Beam, Blizzard.)
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    Old October 1st, 2017 (6:12 PM).
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      I normally prefer Venusaur due to some of the ability effecting moves it has. But I suck at competitive play, so I'm not the best to ask. :P
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      Old October 1st, 2017 (8:48 PM).
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        I always felt Blastoise was the best choice for gen 1, with plenty of hard hitting attacks and a decent defense to back it up.
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        Old October 2nd, 2017 (12:51 AM).
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          charizard for me. was a beast
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          Old October 3rd, 2017 (4:11 AM). Edited October 3rd, 2017 by Gladion.
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            Mega Drain x Leech Seed x Toxic Venusaur ftw.
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            Old October 3rd, 2017 (10:22 PM).
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              Always dissing the odd one out in Pokemon Yellow. I mean sure you're always locked into Pikachu but he's still a starter damnit(and not so bad as to not be useful either). However, if I had to go with the 3 Kanto Starters in Red/Blue, I probably would go with Blastoise. Its moveset is decent, stats are comparable to the other starters and can learn Ice moves to knock out Flying, Dragon and Grass types. Considering your rival always gets the type that has a type advantage over yours, being able to learn a move that's super effective against it is a plus.
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              Old October 5th, 2017 (5:26 PM).
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              I guess Blastoise is probably the easiest to use - Venusaur isn't really suited to Sabrina for example, whereas with Misty you can just get a grass type nearby and for Lt Surge well... not much can be done there lol
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              Old October 9th, 2017 (9:26 AM).
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                Blastoise because in any rpg my favorite characters to use are tanks, and it also looks cool.
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                  Good ol' Blastiose. I chose him in Blue because he's in the cover. So why not chose that cover Pokemon?
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                  Old October 16th, 2017 (1:59 AM).
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                    Venusaur with Razor Leaf, Body Slam, Leech Seed and Toxic.
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                    Old October 16th, 2017 (8:28 AM). Edited October 16th, 2017 by VisionofMilotic.
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                    Venusaur is hands down the best. My personal favorite is Charizard for his majestic design and the buffs he receives in later gens, but that is not what the question is about. Its who has the most advantages overall in this generation and objectively that is Venusaur.

                    Because of the gen 1 mechanics treating special attack and sp defense as one stat Venusaur is better offensively and defensively than Charizard or Blastoise. Venusaur is essentially battling with 100 in both stats. This mechanic worked to the disadvantage of the other two, leaving Charizard and Blastoise stuck at the average 85. Venusaur could put out a lot more damage than either one of them, and continue to increase that damage output while taking less damage in return through the move Growth, the Calm Mind of the day.

                    If you weren't running set up you also had the alternative of Razor Leaf, which is always a crit hit when it lands because of the different formula based on speed that was used to determine critical hit probability. Since the damage was nearly doubled this effectively gave Venasaur a stab attacking move to abuse that rivaled hydro pump and fire blast in damage but with higher accuracy of 95. Venusaur has also lots of utility options from recovery moves to Swords Dance to almost every kind of status.

                    In addition Bulbasaur evolves at lower levels than the others, which gives the player acess to his 2nd and 3rd stage evolutions first, making life a little easier.

                    He even has the best type matchup for the structure of the Kanto region. It might seem like its Squirtle because the pure water typing is generally more resistent being weak to only electric and grass, those two weaknesses do happen to have gyms relatively early on though. While Bulbasaur is weak to the same number of gyms two, he has more direct advantages, resistances and immunities. Squirtle's line is super-effective against Brock, Blaine and Giovanni while resisting Lorelei and Misty. The Bulbasaur line is super-effective against Brock, Misty, Giovanni and to some extent Lorelei, he resists Erika, Bruno, Lt Surge and the fighting Dojo and is immune to being poisoned by Koga and Team Rocket.
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                      Blastoise can counter the other two.
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                      Old October 23rd, 2017 (11:10 AM).
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                        Charizard, thug pokemon
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                        Old October 25th, 2017 (4:17 PM).
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                          Old November 6th, 2017 (5:20 AM).
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                            Charizard is actually popular than Blastoise and Venusaur.But still Blastoise owns both of them.(Also Choosing Char in pokemon r/b/y proves you are a hardcore trainer cause the first two gyms literally gives you a disadvantage)
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                            Old November 7th, 2017 (10:36 AM). Edited November 7th, 2017 by pokemon4563.
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                              For me, it just depends on which gen 1 game you are playing. If it's red or blue I would use venusaur because of the toxic leech seed combo. But if it's leaf green or fire red, I would use blastoise because of it's diverse move pool.
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                              Old January 13th, 2018 (5:22 AM).
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                                Charizard for me overall most iconic and desirable
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                                  I like all three. They all have something that can help you during your adventure.
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                                    Blastoise is the best choice for Gen 1 based on its abilities and Kantos gyms and elite four, then I'd say I would go with Venusaur because he is one of my favorites but Charizard is a beast as well lol
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                                    Old January 14th, 2018 (2:29 PM). Edited January 14th, 2018 by ShinyUmbreon189.
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                                      I've used all 3 many times and I've had pros and cons for all, and enjoyed all 3.

                                      1. Venasaur is the go to if you want a challenge, tho he makes the first 3 gyms quite easier, but the getting through the game is more difficult. With the lack of water, fire, etc for awhile, it can get frustrating, unless you are using Pokemon like Pidgey, Spearow, Mankey it could make things a little easier.

                                      2. Charmander has a disadvantage early on in the game, but Oddish/Bellsprout made it easier for Misty. Once Charmander is fully evolved he can learn Fly, which is a good STAB and useful HM, freeing a slot instead of having a flying type. Also making the game easier once you have a solid team to go with it.

                                      3. Blastoise is of big help early on, a solid starter throughout the game and for the Elite Four as well, and he can learn Ice Beam which is of huge help against Lance and Surf as a good STAB HM.
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                                        I always used charizard or blastoise
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                                          Venusaur is my favourite starter,It seems he doesnt get much love compared to the other two,even Ken Sugimori the artist hated the design of Venusaur back in the day,the Green verson sprite says it all there lol

                                          All in all id say as a starter in gen one picking Bulbasaur is the best bet as the two gyms at the start are easy to beat etc But my first game was yellow version so I got all three of them in the game.
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                                          I love them all! My favourite of the three final forms is Charizard as he looks very impressive and has an interesting typing, but I'm also a very big fan of both Venusaur/Blastoise. As for which has the advantage, I think Blastoise probably wins as I'm sure his Ice-type attacks will deal swiftly with Venusaur.
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                                            I always use Blastoise over Charizard and Venusaur, as for the topic Blastoise does have an advantage against both of them because it gets Ice type coverage against Venusaur and unless Charizard goes mega X it'd hit it super effective with STAB too. Charizard can learn Solar Beam I think though.
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