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Old March 31st, 2018 (3:24 AM).
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    Lana's always had Lapras...Dewpider would be her third.
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      As we know, Serena was currently the longest gap between obtaining their first and second Pokemon, so at least we know Lana is breaking that record since it will be 70 episodes exactly since her first appearance that she'll finally get her second permanent team member.

      With previous female companions this was the gap between obtaining their first and second Pokemon:

      May - 13 episodes (obtains Torchic in AG001, catches Wurmple in AG014)
      Dawn - 8 episodes (obtains Piplup in DP001, catches Buneary in DP009)
      Serena - 44 episodes (obtains Fennekin in XY003, catches Pancham in XY047)

      I didn't include Misty because she already owned a lot of Pokemon prior to meeting Ash (likely due to her Gym Leader status) while Iris already owned two Pokemon when she debuted. While Lana did obtain Popplio prior to joining Ash's group, it was her only Pokemon technically under her ownership since Lapras was a ride Pokemon, which means she now overtakes Serena's gap of 44 episodes.
      If you were to include Misty and Iris, they both caught their first Pokemon on Episode 19 and 24 of their respective first season(Horsea and Emolga to refresh your memory. Misty also got Psyduck on Episode 27). If you threw Bonnie into this list, she got her first Pokemon on Episode 3 but one can argue that she was in the same boat as Sophocles where someone else caught it for her. Anyways, Misty and Iris results are still well before Serena and WAY before Lana. The fact it took so long for a Female protagonist to get another Pokemon is another reason I just can’t stand Sun and Moon. If there was any criticism of XY it was the lack of goal/directive for Serena early on(although one can argue that was purposely done for character growth) and a sheer lack of captures. Sun and Moon is basically that on steroids since instead of 1 Female with an underwhelming/unspecified goal, we now have three. Don’t get me wrong, I really like Serena but the disrespect towards Female protagonists is certainly an ongoing theme since Black and White where Iris really got the short end of the stick.
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        Lana's always had Lapras...Dewpider would be her third.
        Does Lana battle with it? No she doesn’t. Only time she did was to save Popplio from Team Skull prior to Popplio becoming her partner. Lana’s Lapras gets the same treatment as Kiawe’s Charizard(which belonged to his Grandfather if memory serves).
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          Does Lana battle with it? No she doesn’t. Only time she did was to save Popplio from Team Skull prior to Popplio becoming her partner. Lana’s Lapras gets the same treatment as Kiawe’s Charizard(which belonged to his Grandfather if memory serves).
          Does she own it? Yes.

          That's the only relevant factor. It's like Misty's Goldeen. Not seen often because of its biology and adaptation to water, but still under the ownership of said trainer.
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            Does she own it? Yes.

            That's the only relevant factor. It's like Misty's Goldeen. Not seen often because of its biology and adaptation to water, but still under the ownership of said trainer.
            I’d argue her family owns it as opposed to Lana specifically(same deal with Kiawe’s Charizard) but I suppose we can respectfully disagree. In any case, Lana catching Dewpider makes Episode 71 worth watching. Maybe with Lana catching one will spur Lillie and especially Mallow to catch a 2nd Pokemon. It’s been roughly 30 Episodes since her lack of Pokemon was highlighted and still no 2nd Pokemon for Mallow.
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            Old April 15th, 2018 (2:37 PM). Edited April 18th, 2018 by PainterZane.
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              Since the newest episodes revolve a lot on ultra beast focus, do you think any of the others will capture an Ultra beast pokemon?

              And Does anyone else want Jessie to get a Salazzle? and James a wimpod?
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              So, that Dewpider episode turned out to be nothing but a lie.

              Lana didn't even catch the darn thing, even though the line is her signature Pokemon in the games! I haven't been trolled by an episode title this badly since the Kalos League finale.

              If CodeHelmet was reading this by now, he'll be even more mad that SM continues disappointing both of us. The fact that all three SM girls will likely go through their entire run with no second capture is becoming more and more of a probability.
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                So, that Dewpider episode turned out to be nothing but a lie.

                Lana didn't even catch the darn thing, even though the line is her signature Pokemon in the games! I haven't been trolled by an episode title this badly since the Kalos League finale.

                If CodeHelmet was reading this by now, he'll be even more mad that SM continues disappointing both of us. The fact that all three SM girls will likely go through their entire run with no second capture is becoming more and more of a probability.
                I kinda figured this was going to happen again, which is why I didn't even bother to post about it this time around. As I said, I can't wait for this saga to end. I also hope they go back to how the show was written before, or they do a complete reboot with new characters. At this point, I wouldn't even mind if they went back and started in Kanto.

                Or make an entire new saga where they focus more on story telling than collecting badges or something. Again the manga is a great idea to write, but maybe make new characters and new storylines. Heck even a show based on Detective Pikachu would be better than what we got, and honestly, Detective Pikachu is awesome.


                I have defended the show for a long time and I still will, unless we continue with this Alola stuff. Some of the episodes are great. I love all the misc episodes with the competitions like the Pancake Race, Baseball, ect.... but omg... I have never seen a show with such horrendous development like I am with Alola Series. Not to mention the opening of the english dub, the newest one, is hard to listen to.
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                  So, that Dewpider episode turned out to be nothing but a lie.

                  Lana didn't even catch the darn thing, even though the line is her signature Pokemon in the games! I haven't been trolled by an episode title this badly since the Kalos League finale.

                  If CodeHelmet was reading this by now, he'll be even more mad that SM continues disappointing both of us. The fact that all three SM girls will likely go through their entire run with no second capture is becoming more and more of a probability.
                  I haven’t seen the Episode yet but deep down I had a suspicion that this would be the result. God I hate it when my gut instinct turns out to be right. Not only is Alola the worst series but it makes Black and White look like Diamond and Pearl by comparison.

                  I’m with IcyIce that Alola needs to end already but it won’t any time soon because Ash has yet to even go to Ula’Ula or Poni Island for their respective Grand Trials. Heck Guzma and Team Skull have yet to truly make their grand entrance. Let’s also not forget about Team Rocket thanks to that Alolan Meowth wherein I think they have a role to play regarding the Ultra Beasts(using them to try and take over the world).

                  I also agree with IcyIce that I’d love to see another Kanto series since Ash promised back in Season 1 that he’d return. SM42 gave us the Ash/Misty rematch we’ve all wanted but deep down we all want more. We want him to face Brock(or Forrest), Lt.Surge, Erika, Sabrina, Janine(since Koga retired?), Blaine and the new Viridian Gym Leader(*cough Gary Oak cough*). Heck let’s throw the Kanto Battle Frontier again with Ash using three old Pokemon that he hasn’t seen in years: Butterfree, Primeape and Pidgeot. He also gets reacquainted with Haunter who actually joins Ash’s team instead of making Sabrina laugh. To round out his Kanto team with Pikachu, let’s bring back an old Kanto staple: Charizard. As for traveling companions... who better than the ones from Kalos?

                  Forgot to add: How many shots are you going to take after this latest Troll Episode Hikamaru?

                  Also I had a dream that Bonnie did her Wife gag with Misty. Not sure what to make of it but I think she’d have the same reaction as the boy who asked her out on a date.
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                    I am upset that Lana didn't catch Dewpider. I hope that she doesn't become the first main character to never have a single team change.
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                    I am upset that Lana didn't catch Dewpider. I hope that she doesn't become the first main character to never have a single team change.
                    As much as I don't want to say it, I think she will make history for the wrong reasons by indeed becoming the first main character to not catch or evolve any Pokemon. Mallow at least had an evolution, but no new captures.

                    I am getting concerned that the rest of SM will constantly give development to Ash and Ash only. And that's all because he's the main protagonist and has to steal the spotlight from everyone else, and he's also been the only one in the group that's been allowed to have a full team since BW.
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                      As much as I don't want to say it, I think she will make history for the wrong reasons by indeed becoming the first main character to not catch or evolve any Pokemon. Mallow at least had an evolution, but no new captures.

                      I am getting concerned that the rest of SM will constantly give development to Ash and Ash only. And that's all because he's the main protagonist and has to steal the spotlight from everyone else, and he's also been the only one in the group that's been allowed to have a full team since BW.
                      After finally watching the Episode, I don’t think Lana will go the entire series without a capture. I base this on two factors. 1) Kiawe has a 2nd Pokemon and he has a Z-Ring. Since Lana has a Z-Ring, it’s a logical conclusion that she will get another Pokemon at some point(why it hasn’t happened yet is beyond me). 2) It is noted in that Dewpider Episode that Dewpider wasn’t ready for a Trainer(was busy establishing its new Kingdom). In other words, when it’s done building it’s Kingdom, it will go claim it’s Queen(or in this case Lana and Lana is open to catching it when the time is right).

                      What bugs me to no end though is Mallow not catching a 2nd Pokemon. Episode 39..... SMH.
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                      After finally watching the Episode, I don’t think Lana will go the entire series without a capture. I base this on two factors. 1) Kiawe has a 2nd Pokemon and he has a Z-Ring. Since Lana has a Z-Ring, it’s a logical conclusion that she will get another Pokemon at some point(why it hasn’t happened yet is beyond me). 2) It is noted in that Dewpider Episode that Dewpider wasn’t ready for a Trainer(was busy establishing its new Kingdom). In other words, when it’s done building it’s Kingdom, it will go claim it’s Queen(or in this case Lana and Lana is open to catching it when the time is right).

                      What bugs me to no end though is Mallow not catching a 2nd Pokemon. Episode 39..... SMH.
                      At least it's nice that there was some dialogue that teased that Dewpider may be caught in a future episode, so maybe I guess it's going to be a Buneary situation in that it doesn't get caught in its first appearance but gets caught later on. Except that in the case with Dawn and Buneary, she failed to catch two Buneary before finally catching the one in DP009.
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                        At least it's nice that there was some dialogue that teased that Dewpider may be caught in a future episode, so maybe I guess it's going to be a Buneary situation in that it doesn't get caught in its first appearance but gets caught later on. Except that in the case with Dawn and Buneary, she failed to catch two Buneary before finally catching the one in DP009.
                        We can all hope for a 2nd capture for our neglected and disgraced Female cast but after watching Episode 72, I was waiting for the Evolution of Steenee but it never came. The last time Mallow had a real Cooking oriented Episode(aka Episode 18 or over 50 Episodes ago), her Pokemon evolved. No such outcome this time around despite Steenee being integral to their success in the competition. I suppose we didn’t get an Evolution because it didn’t have to fight like it did in Episode 18.

                        While we’ve discussed ad nauseum the reasons Mallow and Lana deserve a 2nd Pokemon, we’ve been overlooking the fact it’s been 15+ Episodes since the Aether arc ended and nothing for Lillie either. I’d like to see her get an Eevee and/or Clefairy based on her rapport with her mother’s Clefable.
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                        While we’ve discussed ad nauseum the reasons Mallow and Lana deserve a 2nd Pokemon, we’ve been overlooking the fact it’s been 15+ Episodes since the Aether arc ended and nothing for Lillie either. I’d like to see her get an Eevee and/or Clefairy based on her rapport with her mother’s Clefable.
                        That reminds me, Lillie uses a Clefairy in the games so it would be fitting for her. But if she gets Eevee, the writers will likely avoid Glaceon (because of May) or Sylveon (since Serena has it).
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                          That reminds me, Lillie uses a Clefairy in the games so it would be fitting for her. But if she gets Eevee, the writers will likely avoid Glaceon (because of May) or Sylveon (since Serena has it).
                          If she got Eevee, who is to say she would evolve it. Let’s not forget that Movie 21 may ultimately reveal some new Eevee evolution. In which case Lillie would be the test tube or current cast member to showcase it. However, if there is no new evolution, then the odds are that it will become an Espeon to highlight the Sun/Moon Evolution of not only Lycanroc but Eevee as well.

                          Rest assured it won’t be Jolteon(already got three Electric Pokemon in Pikachu, Togedemaru and Charjabug), Flareon(Kiawe’s Pokemon fill that role), Vaporeon(Lana) or Leafeon(Mallow). That leaves Ice, Fairy and Psychic since Gladion has Dark covered with Umbreon. Part of me thinks she’s going to get a Sylveon if she happens to get an Eevee. Lillie loves Fairy types and seeing as Alolan Ninetales is part Fairy, I can see her becoming a Fairy Type Trainer.
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                          I do agree that Lillie will most likely catch Fairy-types, since she tended to use them in US/UM. In addition to that Clefairy, she also used Ribombee and Comfey in the Battle Tree when chosen as an AI partner.
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                            I do agree that Lillie will most likely catch Fairy-types, since she tended to use them in US/UM. In addition to that Clefairy, she also used Ribombee and Comfey in the Battle Tree when chosen as an AI partner.
                            Anyone find it complete BS that Acerola(whose characterization is pretty spot on) catches a Gengar while our neglected Female cast has yet to sniff a 2nd capture outside of say Lana? On another note... only took TR nearly 50 Episodes to finally make use of that Dark-Z(and get the Mimikyu one no less). Also the ending to 73... talk about a middle finger. No buildup that Ash is going to Ula’Ula and when Ash went to Akala, the class went with him. Not this time so what the hell gives(and if they’re doing this for Ula’Ula, why couldn’t they do this from the beginning and remove the “classmates” altogether). “Mini-Rant” over.
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