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6th Gen All Things Sylveon

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You are using the wrong name to associate a type. You'd have to go with the Japanese name which is Nymph which sadly isn't associated with any one specific elemental type.

Well, just because its Japanese name is not associated with Sylph, it doesn't mean that the English name can't be taken as a hint or something.

I totally believe that Sylveon is a Flying type. Not only because of the name, but also because of the way its "ribbons" are waving to the side. http://images.vg247.com/current//2013/02/Sylveon_Nymphali_Feelinara-300dpi-478x600.jpg
 

CloysterOyster

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Haven't been on here in awhile but glad to see Sylveon still in discussion. I still think it's a Normal-type, too cute for anything else with the exception of Flying.
 

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Out of all the current types I do think Flying is the most plausible based on it's appearance, it has a similar structure to Shaymin Sky Forme which had no wings.
 

Cyclone

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Out of all the current types I do think Flying is the most plausible based on it's appearance, it has a similar structure to Shaymin Sky Forme which had no wings.
That's funny. Aside from Normal, Flying is - to me - the LEAST plausible type. Bug has become the new likely candidate for me. Those entrails are more Bug-like than Flying-like. I even put Dragon ahead of Flying as a possibility.

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I am definitely pro Fairy. Especially when it comes to Sylveon. All the other Eeveelutions look exactly like their type. You could look at them and immediately know. No speculation. That is what has bothered me about Sylveon. Sylveon, to me, looks Fairy like. At least more than anything else. I was pro Flying for a while, but it just doesn't settle right with me anymore. No type does, except Fairy. I'm really really hoping it's true, as long as they pull it off nicely.
To me, Fairy type would be very magical. It could be the "magic" type that was speculated.
 

C Payne

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Whether its newer info or not is not relevant. If newer players joined in then they only got a few new Eevee Evolutions depending on when they started seeing as the Physical/Special move split happens in Gen 4 when they introduced Glaceon and Leafeon only. So really they started with 2 Pokemon that has very little relevance to them always being Mono just as them always being Special typed has no relevance since they were special typed in Gen 3 right before Gen 4. Its only been 2 generations since that split, so Special typed pattern is still valid seeing as majority of them were introduced before the split.

You're acting as if the previous eeveelutions were somehow thrown into the shadows when Leafeon and Glaceon hit the scene when they're still the same, in regards to mono-typing. Yes the physical/special split wasn't that long ago but the fact that they were split can also be used to argue against that having meaning when it comes to Sylveon.

Now can it be used as a reasoning? Sure, since it was more of a behind-the-scenes type thing and it makes sense to those who have noticed it. However, I personally am not buying it because of the split and for various other reasons, a big one being that it just doesn't scream dragon to me at all nor does it look like it could have any kind of story behind it leading to it being dragon-typed.


You said specifically that them introducing a Non-Special type Eevee Evolution was more possible than them introducing a Dual typed Eevee Evolution. Yes you are arguing against the chances of Eevee's evolution changing. How noticeable it is doesn't change how relevant it is.

And yes how similar the arguments are is the point. Its the exact same argument with interchangeable words.

Seems you have missed some things I've said or you'd realize I meant, and said, that it would be more passable to ruin the physical/special concept than it would be to ruin the much more obvious mono-typing concept, for reasons I stated before.

I brought up the points I did to show why I disagreed with what Pinkie had talked on about, not that it's something that is completely shattered. Below, in bold, is the reason I went on why I did about mono-typing:
Despite the Physical/Special split in Gen IV, Eevee still managed to received two new evolutions that were formerly special-based, Grass and Ice, which means game mechanic changes have no effect on patterns/traditions, which are important models on what to expect on the next game to prevent gamers from being overhyped on things that'll never happen due to patterns/traditions.

Now where is the importance behind something hidden like that(and would have pretty much no consequences if 'broken') and how can it really be considered in the leagues of tradition(since that was brought up to defend it)? If we get a physical-type, ok...we'll just get them all one way or another eventually, nothing really bothersome there; the split makes this more debatable anyways(since it's former status has indeed been broken). Mono-typing, so far, has yet to have any kind of break to it and is looking to have a pretty high chance of staying that way and going on to represent the whole idea behind eevee and it's evolutions. In other words, it so far has more importance to the line than whether or not a former special or physical-typing comes next.

It isn't 100%, though I believe it is, because we're only halfway through all types, but anyone, whether they started with Red or just joined in with Black 2, can look at the eeveelution line and have a much, much better chance at noticing 'monotype' than they would 'they all are past special-types so far'(especially if they haven't played any previous games and, even then, it's not as noticeable). Both arguments are there, hidden or not, but the former would have a bigger impact were it to be broken than the latter. That's what I was getting at; I wasn't completely trying to destroy the latter concept.

I'm not even sure why this escalated to where it is.
 
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Just wondering... do you guys think you'd be more interested in Sylveon/speculating on it like crazy if it was released closer to the movie aka July, than now?
 

C Payne

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Unless I'm hugely missing something, why does it really matter whether or not the tradition of eevee's evolutions being "special-typed" is broken or not? It seems that, the more that I look at it, that it seems like something that's likely to happen anyway, sooner or later. But like I said, I could be missing something here. I was merely skimming through this entire debate, after all. x_x

I was just showing why I disagreed when Pinkie brought it up as to why eevee might be Dragon-typed and the whole importance of patterns/tradition or whatever. Apparently there was a big misunderstanding because I'm not even sure how it got as crazy as it did, haha.


Just wondering... do you guys think you'd be more interested in Sylveon/speculating on it like crazy if it was released closer to the movie aka July, than now?

Yeah because if they really aren't going to show anything more until then, seems like a couple months wasted when it could have been better suited for a few months before the movie. There's only so much they can reveal if they do want to keep the typing a surprise and not let something big slip until the movie.
 

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I think at this point, unless anything gets revealed, that we're pretty much beating the dead horse by speculating Sylveon. It doesn't really matter when it got released honestly, as the same thing would still occur for its typing. However, there just isn't a whole lot to keep speculating on until we get more hints or actual confirmation from Game Freak. Who knows how far off that is though =x
 

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Since everyone seems bored of talking about its type, I am going to post this picture to lighten things up:

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x3 As creepy as this is, it got me thinking... What are its bows made of? o.O
 

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire

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I've...never thought about what they may be made out of 0_o. Maybe it's typing will hint at it? Of course it could be like Machoke's belt...pokémon get clothes randomly...
 

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I think it's made from its skin tbh. Cinccino kinda looked that way and it could just have... unique skin! n_n
 

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At first I thought it was just aesthetic, but then in the movie trailer they light up when it attacks. So they are definitely attached to its body... Maybe it is its hair or fur that grew long. But the idea of them being flesh... is eww.

But I like the unique skin I idea x3
 
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Some people think that the clothes on Pokemon is actually skin/fur. Like Machoke's and Machamp's underwear thing. A some thing that is just skin. We know that Scraggy and Scrafty's Pants are excess skin. In the Stadium games and most 3D games after that, everything but Jynx's hair disappears leading a lot to believe that Jynx doesn't have an actual body but the clothes is its real body.

There was also the rumor that Sawk and Throh's judo uniforms are fur that is tied together to mock human versions of their look.

Glaceon's headgear is also part of its actual body...so really its bows and ribbons being made of its flesh or being tentacles makes some sense.
 

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I'd imagine that it would be part of its physical being. It's not out of the realm of possibility for them to be there for aesthetics or anything, but I'm having a hard time picturing Eevee evolving and then random ribbons and bows that aren't actually part of it spontaneously appearing =P Then again I always felt the same way for the cases Xander listed above too =P
 

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Some people think that the clothes on Pokemon is actually skin/fur. Like Machoke's and Machamp's underwear thing. A some thing that is just skin. We know that Scraggy and Scrafty's Pants are excess skin. In the Stadium games and most 3D games after that, everything but Jynx's hair disappears leading a lot to believe that Jynx doesn't have an actual body but the clothes is its real body.

There was also the rumor that Sawk and Throh's judo uniforms are fur that is tied together to mock human versions of their look.

Glaceon's headgear is also part of its actual body...so really its bows and ribbons being made of its flesh or being tentacles makes some sense.

Aside from the Scraggy/Scrafty thing, all the rest are kind of creepy, haha. Glaceon appears to be pretty obvious but the thought of Machop line's underwear thing is weird on so many levels. With Sawk and Throh, are you saying that they made their robes out of fur? If so, that's something I thought happened with them since they don't have pre-vos to really judge where they came from.

Jynx has always been the crazy one within the dress(behind the facial features) but it does appear that the dress is just it's body.

Sylveon's ribbons look like part of it's body to me, too.
 

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I think they're probably like Glaceon's headgear, part of it. though the one behind it looks strange...maybe it uses it's fur for attacks like Mienfoo's line.
 

Cyclone

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A preview of news about Sylveon next week. Interesting!

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4chan also said it was flying type since they had the paper airplane throwing event...The mini events, even with Pokemon cosplayers are there for fun and nothing else.

While Sylveon can be fighting, the smash cosplay events don't mean or hint towards anything.
 
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