Sideshow Showcase The place to show side-projects that you're working on, for the small yet still big things you want to do, such as translation patches, "386" patches, and anything small like that.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1    
Old July 18th, 2016 (5:18 PM).
Paige's Avatar
Paige Paige is offline
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Age: 29
Posts: 952
Wished you made a version with the regular difficulty level of the original with the option to switch between pokemon during a trainer battle since I'm not a fan of games that increase difficulty.
__________________

Reply With Quote
  #2    
Old July 18th, 2016 (5:21 PM).
Absoluzion's Avatar
Absoluzion Absoluzion is offline
Fighting (*o*)9
     
    Join Date: Dec 2015
    Location: in an island far, far away....
    Gender: Male
    Nature: Careful
    Posts: 67
    Wow nice Hack :D
    Reply With Quote
      #3    
    Old July 18th, 2016 (5:55 PM).
    Murkrow's Avatar
    Murkrow Murkrow is offline
    Nasty Plotting
       
      Join Date: Jan 2008
      Nature: Calm
      Posts: 580
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by Saraya Jade View Post
      Wished you made a version with the regular difficulty level of the original with the option to switch between pokemon during a trainer battle since I'm not a fan of games that increase difficulty.
      you should try the hack out before commenting
      the battle style can be changed to "switch" (the description did say that the battle style is DEFAULT to set, not permanent)

      also this hack mostly only slightly buffs the E4/gym leaders. normal trainers and wild mons are mostly untouched (which i actually do not like, i rather rangi did buff them too)
      __________________

      Reply With Quote
        #4    
      Old July 18th, 2016 (6:22 PM).
      Paige's Avatar
      Paige Paige is offline
       
      Join Date: Jun 2009
      Age: 29
      Posts: 952
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by Murkrow View Post
      you should try the hack out before commenting
      the battle style can be changed to "switch" (the description did say that the battle style is DEFAULT to set, not permanent)

      also this hack mostly only slightly buffs the E4/gym leaders. normal trainers and wild mons are mostly untouched (which i actually do not like, i rather rangi did buff them too)
      I don't like any trainers to be buffed, I prefer vanilla difficulty. I think two versions should be provided, one with difficulty hightened and one with Vanilla difficulty.
      __________________

      Reply With Quote
        #5    
      Old July 18th, 2016 (7:46 PM).
      nachosam nachosam is offline
         
        Join Date: Aug 2009
        Gender: Male
        Posts: 6
        first shiny found so far so good.
        Reply With Quote
          #6    
        Old July 18th, 2016 (8:02 PM).
        nachosam nachosam is offline
           
          Join Date: Aug 2009
          Gender: Male
          Posts: 6
          So i'm gonna be a bother and ask could we maybe get a more detailed changelog like what pokemon have stat changes or where you have put some of the more rare pokemon?
          Reply With Quote
            #7    
          Old July 18th, 2016 (8:18 PM).
          Rangi's Avatar
          Rangi Rangi is offline
             
            Join Date: Jul 2016
            Location: NY
            Gender: Female
            Nature: Careful
            Posts: 685
            You can see all the wild Pokémon locations in the data/wild files. The base stats in data/base_stats are less convenient to read, so I will make a list of the changed ones for the next release. Although I believe all the new ones are in this changelog.

            By the way, I am making changes in response to peoples' bug reports. New fixes and features are listed at the bottom of the readme that will be out in 1.1.0.

            Zef, I cannot reproduce the non-shiny Smoochum bug. If anyone else gets a non-shiny Odd Egg, please let me know.
            __________________
            Pokémon Polished Crystal (GitHub) — version 2.2.0 released
            Pokémon Red★ and Blue★: Space World Edition (GitHub) — updated August 19!
            Polished Map: pokered+pokecrystal map, tileset, and palette editor — version 3.5.0 released!
            Reply With Quote
              #8    
            Old July 18th, 2016 (8:24 PM).
            Murkrow's Avatar
            Murkrow Murkrow is offline
            Nasty Plotting
               
              Join Date: Jan 2008
              Nature: Calm
              Posts: 580
              Quote:
              Originally Posted by Saraya Jade View Post
              I don't like any trainers to be buffed, I prefer vanilla difficulty. I think two versions should be provided, one with difficulty hightened and one with Vanilla difficulty.
              i just beaten the E4 on nuzlocke and i can tell you the difficulty is pretty much similar or just a little harder than the original.

              btw @ rangi i told you about the will o wisp piercing through semi-invulnerable state of dig on reddit, i hope you did take note of it?
              __________________

              Reply With Quote
                #9    
              Old July 18th, 2016 (9:00 PM).
              Rangi's Avatar
              Rangi Rangi is offline
                 
                Join Date: Jul 2016
                Location: NY
                Gender: Female
                Nature: Careful
                Posts: 685
                Yes, thanks for the bug report. It will probably be fixed for the next version.

                (Should I just release 1.0.1 in the next few days or wait for more significant new features in a 1.1 release?)
                __________________
                Pokémon Polished Crystal (GitHub) — version 2.2.0 released
                Pokémon Red★ and Blue★: Space World Edition (GitHub) — updated August 19!
                Polished Map: pokered+pokecrystal map, tileset, and palette editor — version 3.5.0 released!
                Reply With Quote
                  #10    
                Old July 18th, 2016 (10:00 PM). Edited July 18th, 2016 by Murkrow.
                Murkrow's Avatar
                Murkrow Murkrow is offline
                Nasty Plotting
                   
                  Join Date: Jan 2008
                  Nature: Calm
                  Posts: 580
                  Quote:
                  Originally Posted by Rangi View Post
                  (Should I just release 1.0.1 in the next few days
                  you should.
                  also i think you should buff the wild mons in kanto...seeing them all at lvl 10+ when your mon is now 50+ is just eh...
                  YARAH!
                  __________________

                  Reply With Quote
                    #11    
                  Old July 18th, 2016 (11:15 PM).
                  Rangi's Avatar
                  Rangi Rangi is offline
                     
                    Join Date: Jul 2016
                    Location: NY
                    Gender: Female
                    Nature: Careful
                    Posts: 685
                    Yeah, I'm definitely going to raise the levels in Kanto. I think once that's done underleveling won't really be a problem, because trainer levels have the same steady increase as HG/SS, it's just that you aren't gaining enough experience to match them.

                    I'll try to adjust the Kanto levels and fix the sprite glitch (which is not going to be another one-line fix), then release 1.0.1.
                    __________________
                    Pokémon Polished Crystal (GitHub) — version 2.2.0 released
                    Pokémon Red★ and Blue★: Space World Edition (GitHub) — updated August 19!
                    Polished Map: pokered+pokecrystal map, tileset, and palette editor — version 3.5.0 released!
                    Reply With Quote
                      #12    
                    Old July 19th, 2016 (12:50 AM).
                    Murkrow's Avatar
                    Murkrow Murkrow is offline
                    Nasty Plotting
                       
                      Join Date: Jan 2008
                      Nature: Calm
                      Posts: 580
                      any other place to get dig/earthquake tm? want to use gliscor but seeing it doesn't learn any good ground moves and seemingly non e of those tm(already used them) left...
                      __________________

                      Reply With Quote
                        #13    
                      Old July 19th, 2016 (7:55 AM).
                      Rangi's Avatar
                      Rangi Rangi is offline
                         
                        Join Date: Jul 2016
                        Location: NY
                        Gender: Female
                        Nature: Careful
                        Posts: 685
                        No, TMs are only in one place, since I want to make them reusable.

                        By the way, how does Gen VI handle selling reusable TMs? Does the TM disappear from the menu after you buy it? Or do they just not have TMs for sale any more? Same question regarding the Game Corner prizes.
                        __________________
                        Pokémon Polished Crystal (GitHub) — version 2.2.0 released
                        Pokémon Red★ and Blue★: Space World Edition (GitHub) — updated August 19!
                        Polished Map: pokered+pokecrystal map, tileset, and palette editor — version 3.5.0 released!
                        Reply With Quote
                          #14    
                        Old July 19th, 2016 (8:13 AM).
                        Murkrow's Avatar
                        Murkrow Murkrow is offline
                        Nasty Plotting
                           
                          Join Date: Jan 2008
                          Nature: Calm
                          Posts: 580
                          tm cannot be sold from gen5 onwards. and if you buy one the same tm become unpurchasable, same deal for game corner tm.
                          i hope you make them reusable soon...
                          to be frank coming fresh from a tpp crystal playthrough, i was sort of disappointed to see that a lot of gen6 mechanics that are in tpp are still not implemented (sleep, crit ratio, repel system, infinite tm etc.).
                          maybe i should not have play it too much early on and waited for a later patch haha. though i love my sing espeon now. sleep so OP in older gens
                          __________________

                          Reply With Quote
                            #15    
                          Old July 19th, 2016 (8:34 AM).
                          elaf elaf is offline
                             
                            Join Date: May 2009
                            Gender:
                            Posts: 7
                            Can you add a limit level for pokemon before every badge, like Pokemon Pyrite
                            Reply With Quote
                              #16    
                            Old July 19th, 2016 (8:53 AM).
                            nachosam nachosam is offline
                               
                              Join Date: Aug 2009
                              Gender: Male
                              Posts: 6
                              my scyther just evolved into a.... bulbasaur?!!? neat?
                              Reply With Quote
                                #17    
                              Old July 19th, 2016 (12:02 PM).
                              Roger Davis's Avatar
                              Roger Davis Roger Davis is offline
                              Goofball
                                 
                                Join Date: Nov 2009
                                Location: In my own little world where the sun revolves around me.
                                Age: 23
                                Gender: Male
                                Nature: Sassy
                                Posts: 77
                                I haven't tried this out yet, but it looks rather promising. I really like all the added features and the decapitalization. I'm a little sad that some pokemon had to be removed, but I'm sure the evolutions you have added in will more than compensate. I'm just a dork who likes all of the original 151. Still I'll definitely be sure to try this out soon! I'm probably going to wait until Kanto is sorted out as far as wild pokemon goes, since I generally play GSC for revisiting Kanto, but I really look forward to seeing what else you do with this.

                                I'd say not to make a level cap based on badges though. Pyrite is great, but it's a difficulty hack, and from what I understand, although this is increasing difficulty, it's supposed to be slight and not hardcore, and it's more of an enhancement of anything.

                                Also, along with that, in Red ++, I think the topic of breeding legends was also brought up? Do you think you may or may not enable that here? ( I can't remember if Mateo did or not ) While I guess it could be perceived as abuse-able, I also think by the time there is access to most legends, it won't really matter. Not to mention they hatch at level 5, so it would require a lot of grinding before say, you could ruin Pryce with a team of Enteis and Raikous. Plus it'd allow for moveset experimentation, as well as breeding for a chance of shinies as opposed to soft resetting. Since hex values are being changed I'm guessing trading or battling with other games or something like that would cause issues, but since I'm assuming this is mostly meant for single player, I just thought I would bring that up since rarity wouldn't be an issue considering the effort that goes into catching a legend and you can't really trade them off and distribute them to other players. If not I definitely understand, I just thought I could bring up the possibility.
                                Reply With Quote
                                  #18    
                                Old July 19th, 2016 (12:26 PM).
                                Rangi's Avatar
                                Rangi Rangi is offline
                                   
                                  Join Date: Jul 2016
                                  Location: NY
                                  Gender: Female
                                  Nature: Careful
                                  Posts: 685
                                  Yeah, I'm not going to add a level cap, it seems too arbitrary. If you use Wonder Traded Pokémon you'll already have to keep them below the badge limits so they'll obey you (although I've only ever had to worry about the level 30 limit before the 4th badge). My goal is to fix the complaints with vanilla GSC, and a common one is that the levels are too low, even in HGSS.

                                  Breeding legendaries hadn't occurred to me. Maybe I'll include it, for non-mythical Pokémon (so just the trios), and with some extra requirement (like a certain held item that's hard to find). Actually, that could be pretty cool. Thoughts?

                                  I would love if people use my hack for multiplayer trading and battling, but it would have to be between two copies of Polished Crystal. By now I'm sure that trading with GSC is broken, let alone RBY. Some of the Pokémon shifted index numbers, lots of moves have been replaced, and I completely reordered the items to have a neat arrangement. (Might do the same with moves, since backwards compatibility doesn't matter.)

                                  Right now I'm working on some of the prerequisites for fixing the walking-sprite glitches. For the TMs, I might make them infinite-use for 1.0.1 and ignore the fact that you can keep buying them until later, since it's easy to just not do that.

                                  The battle mechanics will all get upgraded, eventually. Those kinds of changes just take a lot of testing to make sure nothing broke, and the randomness of some of them has to be verified.
                                  __________________
                                  Pokémon Polished Crystal (GitHub) — version 2.2.0 released
                                  Pokémon Red★ and Blue★: Space World Edition (GitHub) — updated August 19!
                                  Polished Map: pokered+pokecrystal map, tileset, and palette editor — version 3.5.0 released!
                                  Reply With Quote
                                    #19    
                                  Old July 19th, 2016 (12:52 PM).
                                  Roger Davis's Avatar
                                  Roger Davis Roger Davis is offline
                                  Goofball
                                     
                                    Join Date: Nov 2009
                                    Location: In my own little world where the sun revolves around me.
                                    Age: 23
                                    Gender: Male
                                    Nature: Sassy
                                    Posts: 77
                                    Quote:
                                    Originally Posted by Rangi View Post
                                    Breeding legendaries hadn't occurred to me. Maybe I'll include it, for non-mythical Pokémon (so just the trios), and with some extra requirement (like a certain held item that's hard to find). Actually, that could be pretty cool. Thoughts?
                                    I think having a rare item for it would be a good idea. And yeah, I meant more for the trios, not so much Ho-oh, Lugia, Mewtwo, etc.
                                    Like I can see multiple legendary birds existing without much problem, but having a bunch of Mew wouldn't make sense at all. I mean, I can totally get why official games don't have it that way, but it kind of makes sense for the birds to be able to lay eggs? Of course I think of the legendary birds and beasts as a very rare species and not one-of-a-kind, but that's just me.

                                    As for TM stuff, in Gen 5 onward TMs are treated like key items. You can't sell them or dispose of them. But as long as it's made clear that TMs are reusable when you add that feature, I don't think people will go about buying a bunch of the same one just to waste money, especially since it's a negative exploit if anything.
                                    Reply With Quote
                                      #20    
                                    Old July 19th, 2016 (1:42 PM).
                                    Jarsurf Jarsurf is offline
                                       
                                      Join Date: Jul 2016
                                      Gender: Male
                                      Nature: Gentle
                                      Posts: 5
                                      A little question ¿how to evolve eevee to sylveon?
                                      Reply With Quote
                                        #21    
                                      Old July 19th, 2016 (11:15 PM).
                                      Murkrow's Avatar
                                      Murkrow Murkrow is offline
                                      Nasty Plotting
                                         
                                        Join Date: Jan 2008
                                        Nature: Calm
                                        Posts: 580
                                        Nuzlocke: Beaten Red
                                        Caught: 72
                                        total RIP: 18 (including lvl77 typhlosion who died to pikachu's surf in the red battle ㅠㅠ)
                                        Money left: 361248

                                        SING, BOOST(x items) AND SWEEP
                                        thanks for the fun hack, awaiting for your updates before i attempt a new journey to catch all the mons as well :-)


                                        __________________

                                        Reply With Quote
                                          #22    
                                        Old July 19th, 2016 (11:40 PM).
                                        Rangi's Avatar
                                        Rangi Rangi is offline
                                           
                                          Join Date: Jul 2016
                                          Location: NY
                                          Gender: Female
                                          Nature: Careful
                                          Posts: 685
                                          Jarsurf: Use a Shiny Stone. There's one in National Park.

                                          Murkrow: Awesome. :) Did you do the post-Red mission? Also, how was the leveling curve? My guess is that up to the Elite 4 would be okay, since only the leaders were somewhat buffed, but in Kanto the leaders get stronger while wild Pokémon are still weak, so you'll probably be underleveled. Was this your experience? I know Red is a jump up in difficulty from Blue, but he was always like that.

                                          I finished fixing the walking-sprite graphics glitch, so that'll be in the next update (probably out by Sunday, depending on how much I want to include in it).
                                          __________________
                                          Pokémon Polished Crystal (GitHub) — version 2.2.0 released
                                          Pokémon Red★ and Blue★: Space World Edition (GitHub) — updated August 19!
                                          Polished Map: pokered+pokecrystal map, tileset, and palette editor — version 3.5.0 released!
                                          Reply With Quote
                                            #23    
                                          Old July 19th, 2016 (11:59 PM).
                                          Murkrow's Avatar
                                          Murkrow Murkrow is offline
                                          Nasty Plotting
                                             
                                            Join Date: Jan 2008
                                            Nature: Calm
                                            Posts: 580
                                            Quote:
                                            Originally Posted by Rangi View Post

                                            Murkrow: Awesome. :) Did you do the post-Red mission? Also, how was the leveling curve? My guess is that up to the Elite 4 would be okay, since only the leaders were somewhat buffed, but in Kanto the leaders get stronger while wild Pokémon are still weak, so you'll probably be underleveled. Was this your experience? I know Red is a jump up in difficulty from Blue, but he was always like that.

                                            I finished fixing the walking-sprite graphics glitch, so that'll be in the next update (probably out by Sunday, depending on how much I want to include in it).
                                            by the middle of kanto i was basically only using 2 pokemon (vaporeon and typhlosion) and i thief ed a lucky egg from a chansey to help gain xp (which took QUITE a while). this was the way i keep up with the level curve without having to grind massively.

                                            so yeah i think the level curve does need tweaking. really could not be bothered to train more mons other than my main 2 since it entails massive grinding.

                                            after getting the 16 badges i basically have to grind on e4 like 4-5 times with the lucky egg on to get vaporeon to lvl90+. while i didnt touch typhlosion too much, it was only on lvl77. since i was basically just banking on vaporeon as a bulky sweeper to sweep everything.

                                            haven't touch post red yet, taking a break now.
                                            __________________

                                            Reply With Quote
                                              #24    
                                            Old July 20th, 2016 (12:19 AM).
                                            Murkrow's Avatar
                                            Murkrow Murkrow is offline
                                            Nasty Plotting
                                               
                                              Join Date: Jan 2008
                                              Nature: Calm
                                              Posts: 580
                                              my idea is that when you reach kanto(vermillion) for the first time, every trainer you meet from there on should have at least lvl50 mons (i was seeing many kanto trainers using really low level mons..) wild mons should be around lvl40.

                                              force linearity by placing snorlax at key route locations, allowing you to steadily increase the difficulty of trainer/wild mons as player progresses along the route you want.
                                              __________________

                                              Reply With Quote
                                                #25    
                                              Old July 20th, 2016 (12:35 PM).
                                              Zef's Avatar
                                              Zef Zef is offline
                                              zef
                                                 
                                                Join Date: Jul 2010
                                                Gender: Male
                                                Posts: 154
                                                uhhh my scyther evolved into bulbasaur at level 14
                                                Reply With Quote
                                                Reply

                                                Quick Reply

                                                Join the conversation!

                                                Create an account to post a reply in this thread, participate in other discussions, and more!

                                                Create a PokéCommunity Account
                                                Thread Tools

                                                Posting Rules
                                                You may not post new threads
                                                You may not post replies
                                                You may not post attachments
                                                You may not edit your posts

                                                BB code is On
                                                Smilies are On
                                                [IMG] code is On
                                                HTML code is Off

                                                Forum Jump


                                                All times are GMT -8. The time now is 6:15 PM.