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Old September 10th, 2016 (7:19 AM).
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    Looking at the votes, i assume Fire red is going to be the Rom Base. So first of all, i woud like to know if Will we use a patch like MrDS's Decapitalized patch, Artificial Red, kristianangel's 721+ or are you thinking to start everything from unpatched FR Rom? I don't think that anyone is going to say that we are gonna use a Clean FR Rom to start, i asked it anyways.
    Aside from the regular features (PSS, Abilities, Moves, Megas etc.), there should be some new things. Like the Breeding system should be upgraded to 6th Gen (i guess its the item which needs to be upgraded). Items like Destiny Knot, Power Items etc. should be available. It really makes the game much more fun to play and I know its already been done as azurile13 has put this into his hack. Then the Battle Engine, as Dizzyegg said, should be Updated (i have no idea about this thing)
    Abilities like Mold breaker should actually say the regular msg "Excadrill's Mold Breaker breaks the Mold". Weather activated from Ablities shiould last only 5 turns.
    And One thing which i don't know if is possible or not is the Weather not activating after Mega Evolving through Touched's Mega Evolution system. For e.g., If Charizard evolves into Charizard Y, it's Drought should intesify the Sun. But that doesn't work (atleast that's what i know so far). It would be great if this could be fixed.
    I'm extremely sorry if you have already decided to do that :D
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    Old September 10th, 2016 (8:41 AM).
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      i know that this may be an unpopular opinion, but starting from scratch seems like a great idea. this way we can get no undocumented glitches to start out with and besides, everything done in any patches can likely be done over again and maybe even better ahaha

      not to mention, we really shouldn't discuss engine things/anything about the game when we don't have a team quite yet...
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      Old September 10th, 2016 (10:08 AM).
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        i know that this may be an unpopular opinion, but starting from scratch seems like a great idea. this way we can get no undocumented glitches to start out with and besides, everything done in any patches can likely be done over again and maybe even better ahaha

        not to mention, we really shouldn't discuss engine things/anything about the game when we don't have a team quite yet...
        you are right... let's see what's others opinion (Stormzy, Lost & FBI).
        For the team, maybe after the current Poll ends, we can decide.
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        Old September 10th, 2016 (10:23 AM).
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          Going on the 'start from scratch' bandwagon.

          >red isn't an option
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          Old September 10th, 2016 (10:25 AM).
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            Since there are going to be experienced people working on the project, it's fairly simple to not just apply some patch file that imports some functionality X, but let them make sure applying the patch file won't break anything (and it works the way intended as well). Thus starting from an unmodified rom file is really the best option as it should be totally bug-free and not contain any unnecessary additional data.
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            Old September 10th, 2016 (12:28 PM).
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            Yup, I believe starting from scratch is the best option!
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            Old September 11th, 2016 (7:19 AM).
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            It seems the poll closed this morning. 72% voted for FireRed, and 28% voted for Emerald, so I guess that settles any ROM base debates.

            For people endorsing starting from a clean ROM, I agree that not applying any patches with many existing bugs is a good idea. If it's just one or two small glitches, those can be fixed rather easily.

            Additionally hackers like Spherical Ice have made their ROM's a public resource, so we can RIP the Pokemon/sprites/cries tables he's put work into inserting to save ourselves some time!

            Before doing any of that though, I think incorporating a story next would make a lot of sense. As you know, there's no point in ripping all the tables from gaia, applying some 721 patch, making some features ect if the game doesn't need to have it in there. For example, a Pokemon Red remake needs not to include all current generation Pokemon, nor does it require contests and a battle frontier. For the story itself, I think it'd be neat if we can somehow involve some of the writing communities in PC and ask them to collaborate in helping us create a solid foundation and story :)

            We can use that foundation to get a feel of what kind of tiles would fit the game, how the region should be designed/map design, and finally region specific features! After that's established, it'd finally make sense to start actually working on a ROM.
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            Old September 11th, 2016 (9:14 AM).
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              Working on a story is the "hardest" part of creating a hack, imo. Without a good story, any hack with any feature is bad. Everyone is welcomed at suggesting the story, right?
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              Old September 11th, 2016 (10:37 AM). Edited September 11th, 2016 by Kostas.
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              I believe that the graphics have an important role as well.
              Personally, I don't like the default FR graphics.
              I believe I can help at this
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              Old September 11th, 2016 (11:08 AM).
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                I agree graphics do play an important role but the story will ultimately decide on the style of tiles we use (hot climate region, brightly lit tiles ect).
                I would love to help out with tiles if that is the direction everyone chooses to take.
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                Old September 11th, 2016 (11:10 AM).
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                I also think a logical choice is to begin planning out a story. However, formulating a team is absolutely key to this process. I love the community format and the voting on decisions, but we must set up a core team on talented individuals before we move forward. Before we move on to an actual 'application' process I would like to gauge which members of the community would like to be a core part of this ROM Hack (this doesn't mean you cannot contribute later on also.)

                This can from bug testing to ASM Hacking to storyline editing. If you are interested in being a core member of the team, and in which capacity, then please can you post now and let me know so we can see where we're at. As previously stated, we are just gauging interest and will begin a more formal approach soon.
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                Old September 11th, 2016 (11:57 AM).
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                I'd like to participate in code dev/ASM hacking. I'd also like to participate in the story crafting (not to actually give ideas or anything, but rather to just give feed back to ideas you guys come up with).
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                Old September 11th, 2016 (12:06 PM).
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                I would like to help in Graphics of the ROM, Adding tiles, and mapping. I think I am good at these. (You can see my ROM hack to check if you want).
                I can help adding OW sprites too.
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                Old September 11th, 2016 (12:59 PM).
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                  i can do scripting (and am willing to do the more mundane ones), adding tiles/graphics in general, and mapping with kostas~
                  if pokémon/item/move/battle command/overworld/general table expansion becomes a necessity, i've done it 99,999,999 times (or so)
                  not that it matters, but i like to use HxD for everything because tools are generally buggy. i haven't quite learned how to map without advacemap atm, though
                  unlike kostas, i do not have proof of concept ahaha

                  something that i believe should be on some sort of theoretical formal aplication would be like an "activity rating;" how active do you think you'll be able to be? any plans in the upcoming [timeframe] that would totally stop you from helping?
                  i know that i have school, chemistry club, and robotics (in january-april), so that might discourage me evetually
                  and y'all probably already thought of it anyways but whatever
                  and i get that being 15 also automatically puts me at a disadvantage as well </3
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                  Old September 11th, 2016 (3:19 PM).
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                  I would gladly lend my help, but I really can't do much outside world building and working on the story and making trainer sprites. I have a lot of free time and I genuinely enjoy helping, so I'll help in any way I can. I also think we shouldn't use the FRLG tiles as they're amateurish and painfully boring. As a story concept, I was thinking of reworking the original Kanto into a much more inspired region. What Kanto in the games lacks is culture, mystery and variety, something that can be very easily dealt with if we take inspiration from newer games and the real world region of Kanto that has many, many facilities, historical and culturally significant places and a much more diverse landscape than what we see in the games. We could take inspiration from the manga and anime regarding the plot itself and overall capture the feeling of both familiar nostalgia and exploration.
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                  Old September 11th, 2016 (3:54 PM).
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                    I've never made a ROM hack before, but I want to start. I'd love to help with writing the story, if there's room for me on the team.
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                    Old September 11th, 2016 (4:07 PM).
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                    Sure, why not? Haven't hacked in a while.

                    I still have all my tools and resources downloaded. I think I still have some Assembly files from a while back. I can screw around with the Game Design and Storyline aspects of the ROM Hack. That, "insert" features, and edit the Pokemon roster. I have the same skills as any other talented hacker (besides writing routines) but it's best that I just do what I do best. Someone will just have to remind me to actually do it or I'll forget.

                    Can't wait to see where this goes. :3

                    EDIT: You all did the good thing by choosing Fire Red. Even if Emerald is catching up.
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                    Old September 11th, 2016 (4:24 PM).
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                      Wow. It's good to see this take off. I think a team has to be assembled before you can really get into a story.
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                      Old September 11th, 2016 (4:40 PM).
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                        i'm down for scripting and asm.
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                        Old September 11th, 2016 (5:03 PM).
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                          Old September 11th, 2016 (5:08 PM).
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                          Hey hey, I know I'm not from around here, but this seems fun and I've been flexing my pixel muscles on a few projects recently, so I'd like to offer to do sprite work! Trainers, OW, buildings, tiles, whatever is needed.
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                          Old September 11th, 2016 (5:47 PM).
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                            I can do scripting, hex editing (if required) and maybe a few more things i can't think of right now.
                            I have some problems however. first of all my exams may start anytime soon which can keep me busy for sometime.
                            then there's my internet connection. it's too slow. It'll be fixed within 1 week tho, so that's not a big problem.
                            BluRose isn't the only one whose age is below 18... i'm 16 too.

                            EDIT: Beta tester is required right? i can do that too, as well as inserting ASM routines.
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                            Old September 11th, 2016 (9:33 PM).
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                              I can contribute in giving indexed trainer sprites. Super fast beta testing ( completed FIRE RED and caught mewtwo in 6 hours of 1 day.) Just decided a good story. I have midi packs from DS games. Tilesets.
                              Although none of the resources are mine. :)
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                                I'm pretty inexperienced with the hacking aspect, but I'd be more than happy to help out with story line and beta testing. I'm disabled and don't work, so I have a lot of free time.
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                                Old September 12th, 2016 (1:26 AM).
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                                The interest we have received so far is awesome! At this point I think it's apt to begin taking actual applications; obviously we are going to want to see some real ROM Hacking experience before we accept anyone to the 'core' part of the team. Even if you're not accepted as a 'core' member of the team you can still contribute to the ROM Hack through decision making on polls and general submissions. If anyone who is still interested could fill out the following form in [spoiler] tags that would be awesome:

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                                At the moment we will remain with all discussion(s) in this thread, but I am looking at possibly getting a Community ROM Hack subforum made if this takes off and I deem it necessary.
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