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Old February 11th, 2012 (3:29 PM).
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I'm going to go ahead and work on re-creating both of those threads today. I'm really excited and eager to be able to participate in them and allow everyone else to participate in them as well, especially the people that didn't get to try them last time. c: I've also been trying to think up some new challenge ideas lately, but nothing really good has come to mind yet.
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    Hey, I thought about re- creating the dream theme challenge by LaureTheLoner.....
    Maybe some know it, maybe some don't but I want people's opinion. With various themes to pick from, it's like a challenge that branch to more challenges!
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    Old February 11th, 2012 (9:18 PM).
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    I think it's a good idea. That's another challenge I don't think I ever had the opportunity to try! It was a challenge that certainly allowed a challenger to have creativity and freedom with its variety. :)
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    Old February 11th, 2012 (9:42 PM). Edited February 12th, 2012 by pokepokemo.
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      Now the next problem to the re-creation, more creative themes! I'll keep some from the old one, but I need some new ones to!
      So can anyone suggest some themes for the challenge?
      BY the way, I'm gonna start making the thread now :)
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        I'm finally getting around to my Ultimate Challenge Run [above]. The first challenge I am going to be doing is Spades Slick's Smeargle's Hut ~ Monocolor Challenge. I'm going to be doing it on LeafGreen, and all my Pokémon are going to be Purple.

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        I'll update after every 3 major battles [Rival, Gym, Rocket Admin, Giovanni, Elite Four].
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        Old February 12th, 2012 (3:12 PM).
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        I'm finally getting around to my Ultimate Challenge Run [above]. The first challenge I am going to be doing is Spades Slick's Smeargle's Hut ~ Monocolor Challenge. I'm going to be doing it on LeafGreen, and all my Pokémon are going to be Purple.

        My team will be:


        I'll update after every 3 major battles [Rival, Gym, Rocket Admin, Giovanni, Elite Four].
        What a coincidence, I'm currently doing that same challenge using the same color on FireRed. The 1st generation certainly has a lot of variety with it's purple Pokemon. c:
        I'm also working on those threads now, as well as doing the final part of my Ultimate Character Challenge on White.
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          I'm currently doing a challenge on Pokemon White that is sort of a mix between the Random Pokemon Challenge and Laure's Egg Salad (Genetic Mutation Mode). It is basically a random hack challenge where you are stuck with what you get, which also means you can't evolve anything. I downloaded a random number generator and used it to randomize the options for Pokemon in Pokesav.
          The things I randomized were:

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          So, I set up a parameter in the generator (ex. 1-31) for each option and the number that was given was the number I had to use for the move, Pokemon, etc. I chose 5 Pokemon to randomize and most of them had pretty good stats but really crappy moves Magnezone with Astonish. It's ok though because I got a really awesome Cloyster with Dragon Claw haha. This challenge is really fun so far and I just wanted to post my idea for this.
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          What a coincidence, I'm currently doing that same challenge using the same color on FireRed. The 1st generation certainly has a lot of variety with it's purple Pokemon. c:
          I'm also working on those threads now, as well as doing the final part of my Ultimate Character Challenge on White.
          You're welcome to the CSS I used in the TCG challenge, if you wish to use it ^_^
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          Old February 12th, 2012 (11:11 PM). Edited February 12th, 2012 by Enigma.
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          You knows there's a problem when you're deleting more threads waiting for approval than actually approving them...smh.
          I'll be sure to triple-check both of my new threads before submitting them, just to be sure. c:

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          You're welcome to the CSS I used in the TCG challenge, if you wish to use it ^_^

          I'll probably decide to take you up on that offer. Thanks, and kudos to you for thinking of such an awesome challenge in the first place. :D
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          Old February 12th, 2012 (11:43 PM). Edited February 13th, 2012 by myrrhman.
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            Hey Hot n Cold, how exactly are you doing the Ultimate Challenge? Because I think I'm doing something quite similar to you. I've always wanted to complete every challenge PC had to offer, but I'm not quite sure how specific I want to be.

            For instance, with monotypes, clearly I want to do an Ultimate for every type.
            For challenges such as the Smeargle Hunt, I'm planning on doing every color on every generation. (At least I get credit for doing the RBY Black when I solo with Snorlax).
            However, for Challenges such as Duo, I don't think it makes sense to do every possible pairing. I think one per gen is enough.
            For solos, I'm doing it by family, not each and every Pokemon. Also, I'm just planning on doing it in the first game the Pokemon is available in. However, I'll do at least one Ultimate just so I can get that title.
            I'm also not touching B/W. I can't play those games for more than 5 minutes without falling asleep. I honestly don't know why, I guess I just have to have a speed button for it. Maybe a suitable one will come out by the time I finish all these other challenges.

            Here's what my list sort of looks like...

            Myrrh's Ultimate Challenge List:
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            Color Challenge: 4/40 | RB Pink: GSC Red: RSE Brown, Green
            Duo: 2/4 | K J
            Trio: 3/4 | K J H
            Monotype: 56/66 | Kanto/Johto/Hoenn Complete: All, Sinnoh Complete: Nor, Fir, Wat, Ele, Gra, Poi, Gho
            Gym Leader Challenge: 1/32 | Koga
            Elite Four Challenge: 2/20 | Lo Ko
            Nuzlocke: 3/4 | K J H
            Solo: 22/310
            Evil Team Challenge: 2/5 | K J
            Random Pokemon: 1/4 | K
            Gym Type Challenge: 1/4 | K
            Gym Disadvantage: 1/4 | K
            Alphabet Challenge: 1/26 | G
            Tier Challenge: 0/17 |
            One in Each Challenge: 2/4 | K J
            Catch 'em All Challenge: 2/4 | K S

            All in all, 101/558

            What do you guys think?
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              After what Sydian said, I really hope I get approved :(
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              For challenges such as the Smeargle Hunt, I'm planning on doing every color on every generation. (I'm also not doing colors on R/B, since they technically weren't out til GSC).
              If you completed the St. Patrick's Event Challenge from last year, it theoretically should count for the color green on whatever generation you played on.

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              After what Sydian said, I really hope I get approved :(
              As long as you made sure that you had a clear format and rules for your challenge, you should be okay.

              Speaking of which, I just submitted my thread for my Username Letter Challenge v2. I'm really excited to do my Ultimate for that challenge, I ended up with some pretty decent letters. c:
              Also, just now got the new TCG Challenge thread posted. I remember making a file on Notepad not too long ago of all the decks I wanted to do. I just found it, and I have about 24 or so decks listed with teams already selected. I was pretty eager when I first saw the challenge, so I wanted to do the challenge multiple times. I still plan on doing all of those decks eventually.
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              Old February 13th, 2012 (10:49 AM). Edited February 14th, 2012 by myrrhman.
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                I've a question for you all.

                Under normal challenge circumstances, that don't set Pokemon limit (Duo, Trio), how many Pokemon are needed for the challenge to count? Some are restricted (Dragon monotype RBY, where you have 1 family to choose from), but many (Blue Color challenge on DPPt, for example) have plenty of options. Obviously there's no limit to the maximum number of Pokemon you can use, but what's the minimum? 1 is much too low (and I'd be done with all the challenges in just a few playthroughs lol), but 6 definitely isn't needed? Is 2 enough? 3? 4? What do you guys think?
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                I've a question for you all.

                Under normal challenge circumstances, that don't set Pokemon limit (Duo, Trio), how many Pokemon are needed for the challenge to count? Some are restricted (Dragon monotype RBY, where you have 1 family to choose from), but many (Blue Color challenge on DPPt, for example) have plenty of options. Obviously there's no limit to the maximum number of Pokemon you can use, but what's the minimum? 1 is much too low (and I'd be done with all the challenges in just a few playthroughs lol), but 6 definitely isn't needed? Is 2 enough? 3? 4? What do you guys think?
                I think it depends. My view is that 3 is really the minimum, if you have enough good options, to really have a chance at beating the game without either massive overleveling/grinding or item spamming, both of which I dislike. I really hate having to revive pokemon mid-battle, especially against the Champions. It feels unfair in my mind since they can't do that, and using tons of full restores to PP stall sucks too.

                I think it depends both on the challenge and the game you're playing. For example, in my BW monotypes, I try to get a team of 5 if I can for the pregame (5 unova pokemon), which isn't as much of a hardship because of the Lucky Egg, and it ends up being somewhat challenging to fight N and Ghetsis, while also being able to see how the new Pokemon play out. Then I fill out any remaining spots in the postgame with Pokemon from earlier gens that I either like or want to try out. The Lucky Egg is really the only reason I am able to do that without getting bored.

                That's just an example, and I play that way because it's fun for me.

                If I had to say that there was an absolute minimum, it would be two, since these aren't solos! but three should be the minimum in a perfect world imo.
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                  I've a question for you all.

                  Under normal challenge circumstances, that don't set Pokemon limit (Duo, Trio), how many Pokemon are needed for the challenge to count? Some are restricted (Dragon monotype RBY, where you have 1 family to choose from), but many (Blue Color challenge on DPPt, for example) have plenty of options. Obviously there's no limit to the maximum number of Pokemon you can use, but what's the minimum? 1 is much too low (and I'd be done with all the challenges in just a few playthroughs lol), but 6 definitely isn't needed? Is 2 enough? 3? 4? What do you guys think?
                  I agree with jd, as you said, 1 or 2 is a bit low for even the most restricted challenges (Except for of course, challenges that is like a duo or solo). So 3 should be a good minimum.
                  Of course, I can't say for Gen 4 or 5, since I get bored from just playing them since it's so slow without a speed up. But for the first 3 gens, playing with 1 or 2 pokemon is not that hard,
                  since the pokemon would be overleveled by then, a great deal so. ( Save if you use terrible pokemon of course).
                  But if you use, 3 pokemon, even if you are stronger than the champ for each pokemon, the elite four would still be able to eat through you if you don't be wary enough.
                  Let's say the champ's pokemon are at an average 60, that's six pokemon. And your's would be about lv 70~75 at average, maybe even less. But if it were a duo, it would be at and average 60 for the champ and about 80~85 for you! ( I'm not saying that this would mow down the opponents though ) A solo would be even more one sided, the champ's would be 60 and you would be at about 90~ 100! But then again, the gyms would be mowed down, but the champ and the elite four can make life hard for your solo.
                  So all in all, a 3 pokemon is a good minimum!
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                    I think it depends. My view is that 3 is really the minimum, if you have enough good options, to really have a chance at beating the game without either massive overleveling/grinding or item spamming, both of which I dislike. I really hate having to revive pokemon mid-battle, especially against the Champions. It feels unfair in my mind since they can't do that, and using tons of full restores to PP stall sucks too.

                    I think it depends both on the challenge and the game you're playing. For example, in my BW monotypes, I try to get a team of 5 if I can for the pregame (5 unova pokemon), which isn't as much of a hardship because of the Lucky Egg, and it ends up being somewhat challenging to fight N and Ghetsis, while also being able to see how the new Pokemon play out. Then I fill out any remaining spots in the postgame with Pokemon from earlier gens that I either like or want to try out. The Lucky Egg is really the only reason I am able to do that without getting bored.

                    That's just an example, and I play that way because it's fun for me.

                    If I had to say that there was an absolute minimum, it would be two, since these aren't solos! but three should be the minimum in a perfect world imo.
                    See, back in the day when I started doing challenges, I would have full teams of 6, like every time (I think my first challenges were the Water RBY monotype and a Challenge where you use Team Rocket's Pokemon.) However, over time, I came to realize that you really didn't need that many Pokemon AT ALL to beat the game. Now, I don't remember when I voluntarily used 5-6 Pokemon for a challenge.

                    Now, we both know that its not that hard to solo the game with a Pokemon, even with a type disadvantage, a level 80 Pokemon can take out most of the Elite Four with a Body Slam or something. 2 Pokemon is a little tougher, and one might faint from time to time.

                    I think with 3 Pokemon, a lot of grinding around Victory Road is needed before you take on the Elite Four.

                    4 and up is just silly imo.

                    But, I sort of feel dirty just beating the game with 2 Pokemon. It feels like I'm not even trying. maybe its just because I'm that good at challenges. But, I feel like my main objective is quantity, not quality. So, minimal amount of extra grinding is super fun.
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                    I agree with jd, as you said, 1 or 2 is a bit low for even the most restricted challenges (Except for of course, challenges that is like a duo or solo). So 3 should be a good minimum.
                    Of course, I can't say for Gen 4 or 5, since I get bored from just playing them since it's so slow without a speed up. But for the first 3 gens, playing with 1 or 2 pokemon is not that hard,
                    since the pokemon would be overleveled by then, a great deal so. ( Save if you use terrible pokemon of course).
                    But if you use, 3 pokemon, even if you are stronger than the champ for each pokemon, the elite four would still be able to eat through you if you don't be wary enough.
                    Let's say the champ's pokemon are at an average 60, that's six pokemon. And your's would be about lv 70~75 at average, maybe even less. But if it were a duo, it would be at and average 60 for the champ and about 80~85 for you! ( I'm not saying that this would mow down the opponents though ) A solo would be even more one sided, the champ's would be 60 and you would be at about 90~ 100! But then again, the gyms would be mowed down, but the champ and the elite four can make life hard for your solo.
                    So all in all, a 3 pokemon is a good minimum!
                    I can't speak for all generations, but in Gen I, without excessive grinding, a normal growth rate Pokemon gets you at about 82 at the end of the game, and 2 Pokemon gets you at about 70 each. Gen II is about the same, I think you might be a little lower; about 68 for 2 Pokemon. For 3 Pokemon, I think my last run through Red Version ended with 47, 57, and 62 or something.
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                    Nope. :3c You didn't include your sign up, which to me says "I'm just posting this, not taking part in it" and that's a no no.

                    That in mind, I want to punch this forum...why do people think it's the place to post threads to ask for advice on challenges? Why do people like to advertise here, when OBVIOUSLY an advertisement won't get approved? Y U NO READ RULES :( :( :(

                    Though almost everyone that posts in this thread has read the rules and has run successful challenge threads. So...idek. There's a few things I'm thinking of doing in this section, but it involves making more rules that no one would read, and tbh I don't like the idea of this forum getting any more strict. LE SIGH.

                    Also, I would consider 3 the minimum. It's half a team, and it's good enough. Going through with 3 Pokemon isn't as bad as 2 or 1, and it can give you the balance you need. So I'd put 3 as the minimum, even though technically, it's more of the median.
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                    Y U NO READ RULES :( :( :(

                    Because they're as lame as old soda cans with dead ants in them. :c

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                    I say make more rules. If people can't listen to them, forget them, they don't need to be here. :/
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                    I agree with this. There's already a Duo Challenge thread, and a solo thread (correct me if I'm wrong), so if someone just posted that they were using only two Pokemon, they could have just signed up for the Duo Species challenge.
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                      Also, I would consider 3 the minimum. It's half a team, and it's good enough. Going through with 3 Pokemon isn't as bad as 2 or 1, and it can give you the balance you need. So I'd put 3 as the minimum, even though technically, it's more of the median.
                      I feel ya. And I think we all agree that 1 being the minimum would just be silly. But if its a matter of needed balance, or easiness, I feel like 2 is plenty. Is minimum a person to person basis because of these things, which would make my minimum 2, or is it something more?

                      It should probably be said now that I've used 2 Pokemon before for runs, and I've caught a 3rd Pokemon before when 2 Pokemon certainly would have sufficed. I don't really know where I stand on this, which is why I guess I brought it up. If someone convinces me that 3 should be the minimum, I'll go with 3, and if someone convinces me that 2 should be the minimum, I'll go with 2.

                      During my last challenge, Red Color on Red, I caught a Krabby (at level 15) even though my Charizard and Vileplume were plenty strong enough to duo the rest of the game. I had already obtained 6 badges. I caught the Krabby, and then went to Rock Tunnel and trained him on wilds until he evolved, at which point he soloed Blaine's Gym, and soon after, Giovanni's Gym. However, I beat the Elite Four almost exclusively with Charizard and Vileplume, and I know I could have if I didn't catch the Krabby. As far as Blaine and Giovanni, Charizard had Earthquake, which would have made short work of Blaine's team, and Vileplume was equipped with Mega Drain and Petal Dance for Giovanni. Basically, the Krabby wasn't needed, and didn't really play an important part in me beating the challenge, because the rest of my team could have done it without him. Was I right in catching the Krabby, spending the time training him on wilds, and then using him in Gyms that effectively just took exp away from my other two Pokemon?
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                      I would say that minimum thing is a personal preference. Like how you were saying you don't like using teams of 6, I can't stand having any less than 6 once I'm ready for the E4. I plan out my teams and such before restarting a game and I'm a loser and have teams and movesets written in my notebook and YEAH I'm just a bit silly like that... :( So 6 is my minimum and, obviously, my maximum haha.

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                      I would say that minimum thing is a personal preference. Like how you were saying you don't like using teams of 6, I can't stand having any less than 6 once I'm ready for the E4. I plan out my teams and such before restarting a game and I'm a loser and have teams and movesets written in my notebook and YEAH I'm just a bit silly like that... :( So 6 is my minimum and, obviously, my maximum haha.



                      There was another rule I was considering adding that will be more of a benefit to y'all, but I'll have to ask another mod about their approach to it so I'd know how to keep it in check etc.
                      Oh don't worry, I'm the same exact way with my teams. >->"
                      (has seven notebooks, most of the pages are old and worn from erasing and re-writing moves and whatnot) I've even planned out the team I'm going to use for my valentine's run I'm doing in Emerald. >->"


                      Why not ask some of the regular members who frequent this forum, too?
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                        I would say that minimum thing is a personal preference. Like how you were saying you don't like using teams of 6, I can't stand having any less than 6 once I'm ready for the E4. I plan out my teams and such before restarting a game and I'm a loser and have teams and movesets written in my notebook and YEAH I'm just a bit silly like that... :( So 6 is my minimum and, obviously, my maximum haha.



                        There was another rule I was considering adding that will be more of a benefit to y'all, but I'll have to ask another mod about their approach to it so I'd know how to keep it in check etc.
                        Aight, I guess I'll stick to 2. Don't get me wrong, sometimes I think three is needed, I guess I just think 2 is the absolute minimum.

                        I do that too sometimes when I'm bored! I guess I don't really write them all out, but I certainly plan my exact team and movesets before I start a challenge.

                        Oh, and I certainly would love a benefit rule! Make it happen, cap'n!
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                        Old February 14th, 2012 (1:13 PM). Edited February 14th, 2012 by jdthebud.
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                        I feel ya. And I think we all agree that 1 being the minimum would just be silly. But if its a matter of needed balance, or easiness, I feel like 2 is plenty. Is minimum a person to person basis because of these things, which would make my minimum 2, or is it something more?

                        It should probably be said now that I've used 2 Pokemon before for runs, and I've caught a 3rd Pokemon before when 2 Pokemon certainly would have sufficed. I don't really know where I stand on this, which is why I guess I brought it up. If someone convinces me that 3 should be the minimum, I'll go with 3, and if someone convinces me that 2 should be the minimum, I'll go with 2.

                        During my last challenge, Red Color on Red, I caught a Krabby (at level 15) even though my Charizard and Vileplume were plenty strong enough to duo the rest of the game. I had already obtained 6 badges. I caught the Krabby, and then went to Rock Tunnel and trained him on wilds until he evolved, at which point he soloed Blaine's Gym, and soon after, Giovanni's Gym. However, I beat the Elite Four almost exclusively with Charizard and Vileplume, and I know I could have if I didn't catch the Krabby. As far as Blaine and Giovanni, Charizard had Earthquake, which would have made short work of Blaine's team, and Vileplume was equipped with Mega Drain and Petal Dance for Giovanni. Basically, the Krabby wasn't needed, and didn't really play an important part in me beating the challenge, because the rest of my team could have done it without him. Was I right in catching the Krabby, spending the time training him on wilds, and then using him in Gyms that effectively just took exp away from my other two Pokemon?
                        The problem with your example IMO is that you are using the Gen I games, which are riduculously easy to beat in comparison to the later games, considering that the AI is a joke. The later games (Gen III and on) are a lot harder to beat with two pokemon. For example, I can solo the E4 in Gen I with a L60 Pokemon easily, if it has a decent moveset (lol Nidoking L50). Cynthia can be really hard to beat without reviving since her team is so versatile.

                        As for Gen II, Red can be difficult to beat with a team of two at L60, but a team of 3 at L60 can take him down pretty decently. If yout team of 2 is around L70, Red isn't as hard. However, that assumes your duo has decent moves, and you don't get stuck with Charizard spamming Flamethrower in the sun, lol.

                        So IMO, Gen I doesn't really apply when I talk about a minimum of three, although you would need a couple decent pokemon (Charizard is a great one, he doesn't really have any counters in the E4 aside from Blastoise and maybe Onix if he survives Earthquake). FireRed would be harder to beat with Charizard and Vileplume because the AI is a lot better.

                        How about this, Myrrhman? Next time you play a game, deposit your HM slaves before the E4 (unless you already do this). That will make it more challenging because you won't be able to revive your team with them. :)
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                        A little late to this discussion, but nonetheless, I am here. Personally, my minimum for most challenges is three or four. Four is more common of an amount for me to use, but if my choices for Pokemon are pretty slim, that's when I use three. It bothers me to use only use one or two Pokemon in a challenge, unless it's a solo or duospecies of course. Also, it may be just me, but I like seeing a few different Pokemon in my party. I appreciate the diversity factor as well, but like what was already said, diversity isn't always dependent upon your amount of party members.
                        So yeah. Three or four for me personally.
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