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Old December 23rd, 2011 (9:22 PM).
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I'm an ally I don't think I have stereotypes associated with me?

In other news..

http://www.therundown.tv/headlines/say-what/14-year-old-identical-twin-boys-one-transgender-now-brother-and-sister/

I'm not sure if you've seen this article but I did today - Quite touching, I worry about her safety though.
I'd worry that she'd be bullied, too, but I would think that she'd be pretty safe since she's not on her own. She's got a family supporting her.
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I was wondering about something a little while ago. If you're attracted to transgendered people, that would mean that you're attracted to more than just two things... so would that be considered bisexual, or something else? I don't think it would be pansexual in my case, because I'm not attracted to every variation, but still more than just two.

I know labels really aren't that big of a deal, but I'm just curious. (I guess it's just one of those in-betweens that isn't worth giving a label, really.)



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Are you demisexual, then? Right now, I consider myself a romantic asexual, but I've never been in a relationship to know if I'm demisexual or not, and theres probably a large chance that I am.
Maybe to some degree. I always have been attracted to people I know more than people I don't. Although I have experienced love at first sight, and I still do find people I don't know attractive, if they are. Definitely not as much though.

What I mean by wanting to be asexual is more that I feel like it's a waste of time, so I wish I could just ignore any urges I have and keep working, or playing games or w/e. (I tried to put that in the least tmi way possible. lol)

Also, lol at firefox for correcting demisexual as bisexual.
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    I'm an ally I don't think I have stereotypes associated with me?

    In other news..

    http://www.therundown.tv/headlines/say-what/14-year-old-identical-twin-boys-one-transgender-now-brother-and-sister/

    I'm not sure if you've seen this article but I did today - Quite touching, I worry about her safety though.
    It's conforting to know her twin is understanding and her family supports her.
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    I was wondering about something a little while ago. If you're attracted to transgendered people, that would mean that you're attracted to more than just two things... so would that be considered bisexual, or something else? I don't think it would be pansexual in my case, because I'm not attracted to every variation, but still more than just two.
    I assume what you mean by transgender is someone who doesn't identify as either male or female, in which case I suppose you could assume as such because technically they're not male or female. As we're all aware the gender spectrum is extremely wide etc. (which is why i dislike the term heterosexual because that means opposite and it's unlikely people are going to be completely male or completely female) but if you mean a transgender who identifies as just male or just female then no, you wouldn't be attracted to more that two things because they would be just that - A man or a woman.

    I'm assuming you mean those who don't fit neatly into either 0 or 1 on the spectrum however.
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    Old December 24th, 2011 (3:37 AM).
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    That story is wonderful. She is such a pretty little girl too, I don't see how anybody would have it in them to hurt her! I'm not surprised her brother is completely accepting of it, either. Twins have these freaky connections that nobody can explain.
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    Uhm.....It is kind of noob question but can anyone explain to demisexual or asexual mean?
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    Uhm.....It is kind of noob question but can anyone explain to demisexual or asexual mean?
    Lol no worries. ^__^

    Asexual is basically when someone doesn't feel sexual attraction to anyone. Although that does not mean they don't feel ROMANTIC feelings towards someone, just not sexual ones.

    Demisexual is when someone only feels sexual attraction for people they have a strong emotional connection with.

    And anyone who knows better can correct me; this is what I know about those two terms. I may be wrong. >__> If I am, I apologize! ;__;
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    Lol no worries. ^__^

    Asexual is basically when someone doesn't feel sexual attraction to anyone. Although that does not mean they don't feel ROMANTIC feelings towards someone, just not sexual ones.

    Demisexual is when someone only feels sexual attraction for people they have a strong emotional connection with.

    And anyone who knows better can correct me; this is what I know about those two terms. I may be wrong. >__> If I am, I apologize! ;__;
    ^_^ a big thanks for helping XD
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    ^_^ a big thanks for helping XD
    You are welcome! Glad I could help. :P

    And I just thought of something. Does anyone else think a list of various terms, such as those, that a lot of people don't know, might be helpful to have in the first post? Basically, a small glossary of sorts, just because people tend to come here with questions and they might find it helpful to have those terms already defined in the first post.

    Anybody else like this idea, or is it superfluous?
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    And I just thought of something. Does anyone else think a list of various terms, such as those, that a lot of people don't know, might be helpful to have in the first post? Basically, a small glossary of sorts, just because people tend to come here with questions and they might find it helpful to have those terms already defined in the first post.
    I'm just going to chime in my support for this idea. If people are asking the questions then it doesn't seem so bad of an idea. Besides, groups like this are partly for education right? If it helps people then we should go for it. Also there's so many terms these days that I can't keep track of all of them.
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    I assume what you mean by transgender is someone who doesn't identify as either male or female, in which case I suppose you could assume as such because technically they're not male or female. As we're all aware the gender spectrum is extremely wide etc. (which is why i dislike the term heterosexual because that means opposite and it's unlikely people are going to be completely male or completely female) but if you mean a transgender who identifies as just male or just female then no, you wouldn't be attracted to more that two things because they would be just that - A man or a woman.

    I'm assuming you mean those who don't fit neatly into either 0 or 1 on the spectrum however.
    Yeah, that's pretty much what I mean.
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    Old December 24th, 2011 (12:28 PM).
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    PLEASE put a list! There's so many orientations that I just can't keep up, and I feel stupid when demisexual and all that gets jumbled in lol. :(
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    Here is what I have so far:

    Heterosexual: Term used to describe a person who is sexually and romantically attracted to a person of the opposite sex.

    Homosexual: Term used to describe a person who is sexually and romantically attracted to a person of the same sex.

    Demisexual: Term used to describe a person who is only sexually attracted to someone with whom they share a deep emotional connection.

    Pansexual: Term used to describe a person who can be sexually and romantically attracted to any human being, regardless of orientation, gender identity, or sex.

    Asexual: Term used to describe a person who does not feel sexual attraction to any gender or sex. NOTE: An asexual person can still have romantic attraction to other people, just not sexual attraction.

    Please correct me as necessary, and give me suggestions for more terms. I uh, don't remember what everything in the old acronym stood for. >__> And I still am gonna type up transgendered and transsexual terms, no worries!
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    Perhaps you should make a note of things like Biromantic, Heteromantic, Homoromantic and such so people know those terms as well?
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    Old December 24th, 2011 (12:52 PM). Edited December 24th, 2011 by -Jared-.
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    Perhaps you should make a note of things like Biromantic, Heteromantic, Homoromantic and such so people know those terms as well?
    Can and will do! Thank you for the suggestion!

    I am trying to make a fairly large list, so suggestions are welcome. xD Also, I feel somewhat ashamed to say this, but I have had to do a lot of googling to get accurate definitions and terminology. >__>

    Also if you guys wanna spruce up my definitions, by all means, go ahead! I feel like I am being all cold and clinical and scientific with these, so if you want them to be more...like, warm and human sounding, say so! :3
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    x.x How many terms are there? I do not know or just hear for the first time like more than half of them :P
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    Old December 24th, 2011 (2:00 PM). Edited December 24th, 2011 by Alice.
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    pomosexual and polysexual are the only other ones I know.

    And now that I think about it, polysexual is the attraction to more than one sex, but not all... so that would be what I was looking for earlier. (Though I don't think I want to explain what that means every time I talk to someone about my sexuality, so I'm gonna stick with bi. lol)

    Better definitions if you want to put it up there:
    Polysexual: The attraction to more than one gender and/or sex, but not all of them.

    Pomosexual I'm a little unclear about, honestly... and it's not even on wikipedia, so maybe we shouldn't include it. I dunno.
    I found this link though: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Transwiki:Pomosexual
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    I have been meaning to redo the original post for weeks now, but I just haven't had the time! A list of terms is an awesome idea, it might help new supporter members to figure us all out lol. Pikapal, if you're making it just PM me when you've finished and I'll add it in :D thanks!

    We might as well add in the 'romantic' terms (homoromantic etc) while we're at it. If we're gonna do this we might as well do it extensively lol - sorry I'd say more but it's Christmas and my family is bugging me to open stuff XD
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      Do you think that there is a higher percentage of LGBT people are in open relationships? How do you guys feel about open relationships personally?


      It seems like there is a signifantly higher percentage of LGBT people (well not sure about the "T" lol) that are only interested in open relationships than there are straight people.

      I personally would never engage in an open relationship. I am one of those people that would be WAY too jealous to enter one. I also would like to have kids and someone who I can depend on. The bond seems weakened when you add more people in; there must be a feeling of expendability. Ugh, on a less rational note, open relationships just seem superficial and disgusting, lol. Although I feel like it gives other gay people a bad image when others are engaging in open relationships, I think it is a personal choice, and despite how I feel about open relationships, I would not interject myself into that choice, for it is not mine to make.
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      If you're looking for a list of terms to add to the first page here's something you could use.
      Heterosexual: a person who is sexually and romantically attracted to a person of the opposite sex.

      Homosexual: a person who is sexually and romantically attracted to a person of the same sex.

      Bisexual: a person who is sexually and romantically attracted to persons of the same and opposite sex.

      Demisexual: a person who is only sexually attracted to someone with whom they share a deep emotional connection.

      Pansexual: a person who is sexually and romantically attracted to any human being, regardless of orientation, gender identity, or sex.

      Asexual: a person who does not feel sexual attraction to any gender or sex. An asexual person can still have romantic attraction to other people, just not sexual attraction.

      Heteroromantic: a person who is romantically attracted to a person of the opposite sex, but not sexually attracted.

      Homoromantic: a person who is romantically attracted to a person of the same sex, but not sexually attracted.

      Biromantic: a person who is romantically attracted to persons of the same and opposite sex, but not sexually attracted.

      Demiromantic: a person who is romantically attracted to someone with whom they share a deep emotional connection, but not sexually attracted.

      Panromantic: a person who is romantically attracted to any human being, regardless of orientation, gender identity, or sex, but not sexually attracted.

      Aromantic: a person who does not feel romantic attraction to any gender or sex. An aromantic person can still have physical attraction to other people and desire platonic relationships.

      Transgender: an umbrella term for several types of gender identities.

      Transsexual: a person whose gender is inconsistent with their biological sex. They may or may not have undergone sexual reassignment surgery.

      Cisgender: a person whose physical body matches their gender.

      Genderqueer: a person who does not feel they fit into either a female or male gender.

      Gender fluid: a person who moves between genders

      Intersex(ed): having elements of both genders. For instance, a person who has XY-chromosomes and develops female secondary sexual characteristics or a person who has ambiguous genitalia.

      Gender dysphoria / Gender identity disorder: feeling uncomfortable with the gender or sex one is assigned at birth.
      Edit the terms if you like.
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      If you're looking for a list of terms to add to the first page here's something you could use.
      Heterosexual: a person who is sexually and romantically attracted to a person of the opposite sex.

      Homosexual: a person who is sexually and romantically attracted to a person of the same sex.

      Bisexual: a person who is sexually and romantically attracted to persons of the same and opposite sex.

      Demisexual: a person who is only sexually attracted to someone with whom they share a deep emotional connection.

      Pansexual: a person who is sexually and romantically attracted to any human being, regardless of orientation, gender identity, or sex.

      Asexual: a person who does not feel sexual attraction to any gender or sex. An asexual person can still have romantic attraction to other people, just not sexual attraction.

      Heteroromantic: a person who is romantically attracted to a person of the opposite sex, but not sexually attracted.

      Homoromantic: a person who is romantically attracted to a person of the same sex, but not sexually attracted.

      Biromantic: a person who is romantically attracted to persons of the same and opposite sex, but not sexually attracted.

      Demiromantic: a person who is romantically attracted to someone with whom they share a deep emotional connection, but not sexually attracted.

      Panromantic: a person who is romantically attracted to any human being, regardless of orientation, gender identity, or sex, but not sexually attracted.

      Aromantic: a person who does not feel romantic attraction to any gender or sex. An aromantic person can still have physical attraction to other people and desire platonic relationships.

      Transgender: an umbrella term for several types of gender identities.

      Transsexual: a person whose gender is inconsistent with their biological sex. They may or may not have undergone sexual reassignment surgery.

      Cisgender: a person whose physical body matches their gender.

      Genderqueer: a person who does not feel they fit into either a female or male gender.

      Gender fluid: a person who moves between genders

      Intersex(ed): having elements of both genders. For instance, a person who has XY-chromosomes and develops female secondary sexual characteristics or a person who has ambiguous genitalia.

      Gender dysphoria / Gender identity disorder: feeling uncomfortable with the gender or sex one is assigned at birth.
      Edit the terms if you like.
      Darn it Scarf, you stole my thunder!

      ...But that is a damn good list! You did a good job Scarf! A better job than I was doing. xD Thanks! :3
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        It's interesting there's that split between romantic and sexual in those terms. Of course they're not the same (romantic being the desire to have a deep emotional love experience and sexual being GREATGOOGLYMOOGLY.)

        But couldn't that lack of sexual attraction interfere with the romantic relationship later on?

        Not that a relationship survives on the couple's frequency of sexual encounters, but.... here, hypothetical situation:

        Heterosexual Heidi and Heteroromantic Rob get into a relationship.
        Everything goes great for Heidi and Rob for a while.... walks on the beach, cute facebook messages, meals taken with beautiful sunlight and a picnic basket or a candlelight table at the fanciest restaurant in town.... but then comes that day Heterosexual Heidi starts to get a little extra flirtatious.
        What does Heteroromantic Rob do, feeling no sexual attraction to Heidi, but purely romantic?

        Not that heteroromantics don't proceed with sexual relationships and enjoy themselves during, but I guess the question is: Does a romantic relationship need mutual sexual attraction?

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        Explain to me more about the concept of a -romantic.

        I'm very interested.
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        Old December 25th, 2011 (4:38 PM). Edited December 25th, 2011 by Keiran.
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          Well, unless he has been lying to heterosexual Heidi, they have been expecting this issue to come up sometime and heteroromantic Rob will either have to "help" her with her needs, let her have sex with other men or end the relationship. Most will go for the first option, as any -romantic getting involved with a -sexual is prepared for that, otherwise they would date a fellow -romantic.

          I mean, it's not like there aren't -sexual people not really interested in sex either. :X

          -Here- you can read about a recent struggle with someones mixed relationship.

          If you're really curious, you should just peruse that forum. :P
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          It's interesting there's that split between romantic and sexual in those terms. Of course they're not the same (romantic being the desire to have a deep emotional love experience and sexual being GREATGOOGLYMOOGLY.)

          But couldn't that lack of sexual attraction interfere with the romantic relationship later on?

          Not that a relationship survives on the couple's frequency of sexual encounters, but.... here, hypothetical situation:

          Heterosexual Heidi and Heteroromantic Rob get into a relationship.
          Everything goes great for Heidi and Rob for a while.... walks on the beach, cute facebook messages, meals taken with beautiful sunlight and a picnic basket or a candlelight table at the fanciest restaurant in town.... but then comes that day Heterosexual Heidi starts to get a little extra flirtatious.
          What does Heteroromantic Rob do, feeling no sexual attraction to Heidi, but purely romantic?

          Not that heteroromantics don't proceed with sexual relationships and enjoy themselves during, but I guess the question is: Does a romantic relationship need mutual sexual attraction?

          or, better yet:

          Explain to me more about the concept of a -romantic.

          I'm very interested.
          Well, it depends. Some asexuals are actually repulsed by the idea of sex, and won't do it no matter what. In that case, their partner would have to sacrifice sex altogether to make the relationship work, which I imagine would be fairly difficult.

          There are also plenty of asexuals who are willing to have sex to satisfy their partner though.

          Either way, it's definitely possible to have a relationship with a sexual and asexual.
           

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