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Allen Ceedos

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Unfortunately yes but it doesn't really come as much as a surprise. To me at least. Most of the talent Triple H scouted are either gone or now in AEW ever since he/NXT 'failed' to beat AEW when it debuted (though from what I've seen the general consensus is that he was set up for failure and it was just an excuse to get rid of everything Triple H did in NXT)

I didn't want to double post but both Asuka and Mustafa Ali returned to WWE on Raw last night. Asuka was going to happen eventually but I think the most shocking was Ali considering this past January before the Royal Rumble he was asking for his release.
From the time NXT switched to 2.0 the morale behind the scenes has been declining, because this isn't the NXT that they've known anymore...even though this version of NXT is pretty much what NXT is there for - to be the developmental wing of the WWE - and not the "super indie" brand that Triple H built up. I wasn't too happy about the change and yet I've kept up with NXT since 2.0 started, just to see how things go and to find talent worth investing in because one never knows, some of these Superstars could go on to succeed on the main roster later on. But it's becoming a light version of Raw and not easy to watch from week to week. Even the podcasters that I follow who cover NXT are finding fewer and fewer positives from the show as time goes on and I wonder when they'll decide to call it quits.

I'm behind on this week's content, am hoping to catch up over the weekend, but that's a big surprise about Ali. From the time he asked for his release and with him being absent from TV (plus his social media activities), I thought he was going to be left on the sidelines. Now that he's back, I would think creative has something meaningful for him. Asuka too, I'm curious to know what's next for her. Hopefully she's moved on from being a caricature of herself and is back to being more serious.

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Yeah, not anymore. Even when the shows are on separate networks, WWE has got their own version of the "forbidden door".
I think at this point the only importance is that there are certain people that have a free pass and maybe that pass is only temporary, but until it’s explicitly stated we won’t know for sure. That and, as far as I know, the IC and US Belts are firm where they are, and, to a lesser extent, the womens titles as well.

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I think at this point the only importance is that there are certain people that have a free pass and maybe that pass is only temporary, but until it’s explicitly stated we won’t know for sure. That and, as far as I know, the IC and US Belts are firm where they are, and, to a lesser extent, the womens titles as well.
The free passes could be given to anyone, as long as it fits whatever angle or storyline that's being played out e.g. free agent Brock Lesnar a few months ago and for some reason Seth Rollins when he was on Smackdown to challenge Roman at the Rumble. Also remember the short-lived "wild card rule"? So even those secondary titles may not be as firm as they appear to be. The women's titles though have more of a chance to stick with their respective brands and we don't see the champions popping up on the opposite show until it's Survivor Series season or something. But for now while there is a unified world title and an upcoming unification of the tag titles, maybe we'll get a unification of the women's titles after that.

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I said this on Discord and wasn't sure I wanted to put it here... but I guess I'll put it here too...

For those who haven't heard already or aren't aware... Sasha Banks and Naomi walked out of WWE Raw as it was on the air this past Monday over creative. They were forced to change the main event to what was shown that night.

I'm not giving my opinion on this because it's god damn obvious who was in the right here (hint: it ain't Vince and his puppets).

I can't wait to see them on AEW tonight and for WWE to finally start a downward spiral they can't climb out of 🙄

Can WWE just go out of business already please so I can stop hearing about muk like this? 😑
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While Naomi and Sasha Banks were in the right to walk out and they were rightfully mad too. But, WWE isn't going to be going out of business as long as they are making money.

But as far as seeing the both of them on AEW is kinda unlikely at the moment, especially if they're still under contract.

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Hope to see improvements in utilizing the woman's division of AEW. Lots of talent (Shida, Abadon, Deeb, the list goes on and on). Yet they typically get slotted into one short match per show.

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Hope to see improvements in utilizing the woman's division of AEW. Lots of talent (Shida, Abadon, Deeb, the list goes on and on). Yet they typically get slotted into one short match per show.
That's because just like in WWE, AEW focuses more on the men than they do on the women. Which is sad because with both companies, they have a lot of talent on the women's division, but not everyone gets used or they tend to push whoever makes them the most money in merch.

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I said this on Discord and wasn't sure I wanted to put it here... but I guess I'll put it here too...

For those who haven't heard already or aren't aware... Sasha Banks and Naomi walked out of WWE Raw as it was on the air this past Monday over creative. They were forced to change the main event to what was shown that night.

I'm not giving my opinion on this because it's god damn obvious who was in the right here (hint: it ain't Vince and his puppets).

I can't wait to see them on AEW tonight and for WWE to finally start a downward spiral they can't climb out of 🙄

Can WWE just go out of business already please so I can stop hearing about muk like this? 😑
I heard about this on some of the review podcasts, what a way to kick off another week in wrestling. I'm waiting to hear Sasha and Naomi's side of the story because so far we've just gotten snippets from some people working backstage and then there's WWE's official response which they put out. At the end of the day though, will this walk-out by 2 of WWE's major stars make much of a difference as far as how the women's division is booked and presented? I don't know, wouldn't be surprised if nothing changes and it's business as usual. Besides, there's always a chance of Sasha and Naomi returning to WWE later on anyway (Cody, anyone?) so I'm not celebrating just yet. Let's give this a couple of months.

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Hope to see improvements in utilizing the woman's division of AEW. Lots of talent (Shida, Abadon, Deeb, the list goes on and on). Yet they typically get slotted into one short match per show.
AEW is lucky enough to have WWE as an example that they can learn from to avoid making the same mistakes so they still have plenty of chances to build up and offer a credible women's division. So far I'm happy with what they've done with Jade Cargill, not only is she getting better in the ring but promo wise and character wise too. But they have fumbled Thunder Rosa's run as champ, she isn't treated as a big deal like Brit Baker when she had the title. I hope they can sort that out quick while fans are still invested in Rosa.

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It's definitely important to focus on those outside the main event scene aside from Jade/Brit. When a credible midcard scene is built, it makes the title contenders much more important and there's always someone ready to jump in and keep things fresh.

Find this to be an issue with WWE too. They built Roman as an absolute dominating star, but the mid-card doesn't match so it leaves contenders who clearly don't have a chance. They attempted to push Nakamura as a challenger and backed out due to a lack of credibility.

They are doing okay with Deeb/Shida. Shida has already had the title in the past.

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Well Naomi and Sasha banks have been indefinitely suspended. Heck they both were scheduled to get title shots at Hell In a Cell, even if they were going to lose I wouldn't complain about getting a title shot. I know the WWE don't want to take the belts off of Belair and Rousey yet.

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It's definitely important to focus on those outside the main event scene aside from Jade/Brit. When a credible midcard scene is built, it makes the title contenders much more important and there's always someone ready to jump in and keep things fresh.

Find this to be an issue with WWE too. They built Roman as an absolute dominating star, but the mid-card doesn't match so it leaves contenders who clearly don't have a chance. They attempted to push Nakamura as a challenger and backed out due to a lack of credibility.

They are doing okay with Deeb/Shida. Shida has already had the title in the past.
It's one of the benefits of AEW's ranking system, we can keep track of who is moving up towards contendership and avoid situations where someone has to beat a champion in order to challenge them like what usually happens in WWE. Deeb is a good example, she slowly made her way up while feuding with Shida and also doing her Professor's 5 Minute Challenge matches and now she's going to face Rosa for the title at Double or Nothing. Maybe this could turn into a feud between them too and we get a few more matches until the next challenger comes along or if there's going to be a rematch between Rosa and Britt. AEW has a lot of work to do and I am confident they'll do better with time.

I think they just didn't see Nakamura as the big star that he is, because his time on the main roster has been mostly terrible. He won his very first Royal Rumble match, went on to face AJ Styles for the WWE title at Wrestlemania in a match which wasn't as great as their New Japan matches and wasn't even the main event...and he turned heel too. Fast forward to now, he's nowhere near the world title scene and I don't have high hopes for him reaching that scene any time soon. Had he left WWE like Kushida maybe we would be looking forward to seeing Nakamura at that Forbidden Door event.

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Well Naomi and Sasha banks have been indefinitely suspended. Heck they both were scheduled to get title shots at Hell In a Cell, even if they were going to lose I wouldn't complain about getting a title shot. I know the WWE don't want to take the belts off of Belair and Rousey yet.
Thanks for sharing this update, I hadn't caught up on the latest news yet. It doesn't make sense why they would have their tag team champions face the two women's champions in matches they weren't going to win anyway at a PPV/PLE which isn't among the major ones, but leave it to WWE to book themselves into silly corners like this when they could easily avoid doing so. Now that the tag titles are vacant and a tournament will be held to crown the next ones, let's see how that tournament will be handled and who the new champions will be. WWE has a chance to make the most of this and put the titles on a team that could properly lead the division....or they'll just not take this seriously and the division continues to be a joke.