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Old 2 Weeks Ago (5:58 PM).
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Clearly you're just going to disagree with everything I say with logic that doesn't tell me why it should matter (the bullet train being operable? may I turn you back to Detective Conan where they've gone from fat cell phones to smartphones and it hasn't been a "year"? Also I mentioned Johto as being part of the experimental era.) A Pokemon Master is a long term goal. We don't need to see him age it's not like it's time sensitive or anything. We'll likely see him older being a Pokemon Master at the end of the series whenever that'll be and that's enough for me. You do you and I'll do me.
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    Clearly you're just going to disagree with everything I say with logic that doesn't tell me why it should matter (the bullet train being operable? may I turn you back to Detective Conan where they've gone from fat cell phones to smartphones and it hasn't been a "year"? Also I mentioned Johto as being part of the experimental era.) A Pokemon Master is a long term goal. We don't need to see him age it's not like it's time sensitive or anything. We'll likely see him older being a Pokemon Master at the end of the series whenever that'll be and that's enough for me. You do you and I'll do me.
    Yeah, actually, we do need to see him age. Sure, maybe it's not quite time sensitive, but on the other hand, Rocky wasn't exactly time sensitive, either, and featured a long-term goal of becoming an all-time boxing champion, yet even THAT has Rocky aging and time passing. And besides, I'm pretty sure Johto isn't "experimental". Kanto I could buy being experimental, but not Orange Islands or Johto. The first season is generally when things are experimental, and even if we go by series, Orange Islands and Johto are still the second and third seasons in Japan, respectively. And I'm doubtful Detective Conan has a long-term goal anyways.
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    I don't even see why Pokemon has to be like "the other anime" out there, honestly. If that's the basis for your logic then I'm going to kindly ask you to simply respect my decision because repeatedly telling me that Pokemon should do it because other animes did isn't going to do either of us any good other than going in some pointless circle. I know I'm in the minority and this is one reasoning that is not going to convince me otherwise. And to be fair Pokemon it casually retconning things all the time so them doing so about time is just one of them.
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      I really feel like he had aged in Kalos, but I don't think there was any clarification. BUT we do know that in SM he is at least 11, as that is the age minimum for the Island Challenge.
      And I thought she was still going for her goal of being a Water type master. She got over her fear of Gyarados and even has a Key Stone and Mega stone for it. Being the Water Type gym leader allows her to continue training and developing counter strategies to type effectiveness which is essential to mono-type trainers.
      Pikachu on the shoulder is how it always has been, and always will. A Raichu, while it would be stronger, wouldn't really sit right with many viewers.
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        I really feel like he had aged in Kalos, but I don't think there was any clarification. BUT we do know that in SM he is at least 11, as that is the age minimum for the Island Challenge.
        And I thought she was still going for her goal of being a Water type master. She got over her fear of Gyarados and even has a Key Stone and Mega stone for it. Being the Water Type gym leader allows her to continue training and developing counter strategies to type effectiveness which is essential to mono-type trainers.
        Pikachu on the shoulder is how it always has been, and always will. A Raichu, while it would be stronger, wouldn't really sit right with many viewers.
        Might be the age minimum for the games, though we don't know if that applies to the anime (since, technically, the age minimum for being a trainer is 14 if we go by the games, including RGBY).

        As far as a Water Type Master, yes, she never renounced the goal, so she technically is still pursuing that goal, but on the other hand, it is heavily implied from stuff like Whirl Cup-esque competitions as well as her fangirlism to Prima/Lorelei that she needs to reach Elite 4 level bare minimum before she can even come close to reaching her goal. And besides, it's repeatedly emphasized that you need to actually travel in order to reach master level whether mono-type or otherwise, something the gym simply cannot offer. Even Flint, aka, Brock's Dad, made it very clear that Brock staying at the gym ultimately was hampering his potential as a trainer, and that was BEFORE he joined Ash. A more thorough explanation can be found here: https://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=336960 Not to mention, even in the episode where Misty and Brock did gym leading duties as part of a teaching moment for the class, Brock, someone who was explicitly someone who no longer held the title, did an overall far better job at battling than Misty did. And while it is true that she got over her fear of Gyarados at the gym, and that she has a Mega Stone for it (not sure about a key stone), she would have also gotten them if she actually travelled. And I'll be honest, I'm fairly cynical about the Pokémon Gym thing being equivalent to a Master thanks largely to how much the Gym Leaders were depicted as jokes from AG up to BW. And if I must be honest, Misty even being able to go toe-to-toe with Ash, and actually beating some trainers, even if Brock ultimately did far better than her, was one of the few good parts of SM, effectively redeeming gym leaders far more than even XY did. And I forgot to mention, she didn't even WANT to resume gym duties in GCYL, and heck, literally had no say in the decision (her sisters pretty much forced her to return), and it's heavily implied the only reason she's putting up with it is because her sisters were incompetent. Of course, that might now change soon.

        I definitely agree, as I did with Ash, though, that Pikachu's never going to evolve. They had an opportunity to evolve Pikachu again in DP, and he still rejected it.

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        I don't even see why Pokemon has to be like "the other anime" out there, honestly. If that's the basis for your logic then I'm going to kindly ask you to simply respect my decision because repeatedly telling me that Pokemon should do it because other animes did isn't going to do either of us any good other than going in some pointless circle. I know I'm in the minority and this is one reasoning that is not going to convince me otherwise. And to be fair Pokemon it casually retconning things all the time so them doing so about time is just one of them.
        Well, it's certainly more like the other anime out there in the sense that it casually retcons things all the time, I'll give you that much, and not in a good way. Dragon Ball also has that exact problem, as well.
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          Me : ARE YOU QUESTING MY ORDERS PIKARAT?!
          Pikachu : Pikachu (Yeah what are you gonna do about it?)
          Me : Jackie go
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          Oh we were talking about the ACTUAL show changes, wait what did the OP meant by "better voice actors"?

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          I geuss if he wants to be an annoying Pikachu forever rather than an epic Raichu then fine

          Pipi & Misia : Raichu (Wait i thought you still hate us even when we're evolved to Raichus)
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            Ash Aging of course , constant return of other characters (villains, rivals,companions) and 25+ episode Pokémon league arcs. There are more than 800+ Pokémon now no need for 5 episodes long where rounds are shown basically in short montages to skip to the rival battle. I miss random trainers that we never seen before or after give ash trouble for a round like the belsprout lady from original series.
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              The only change I'd make would be developing the side characters more and have Ash get significantly less screen-time unless there's a major arc going on.
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                And most importently (sp) have stop Ash release his fully evolved team!!

                Butterfree (both versions) released
                Primeape released
                Pidgeot released (althought 4kids softens the blow in their dub by making Ash say he will "come back for it", lies http://dogasu.bulbagarden.net/comparisons/orange/ep081.html )
                Goodra released
                Greninja released

                Now i know why his Pikachu is still a Pikachu, if it evolved to a Raichu the poor guy would be released
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