[Developing] Pokemon Great Tenkaichi

CoolKnightST said:

Also for adding the stats may I suggest to keep track of the data using js. The reason for that is that it will become a lot easyier to rebuild the stats in the future and possible generate guides or wikia data for it. Here's a small example:

Code:

ignoreCaps = (string1, string2) => string1.toUpperCase() === string2.toUpperCase() ? string2 : "";
data = {
  fighters: {
    categories: ["Starting", "Early", "Average", "Semi-Pseudo", "Pseudo-legendary", "Legendary", "Mythical"],
    stats: ["hp", "atk", "def", "spd", "satk", "sdef"],
    content: {}
  }
};
addFighter = (name, category, hp, atk, def, spd, satk, sdef) => {
  data.fighters.content[name] = {};
  data.fighters.content[name].name = name;
  data.fighters.content[name].category = (() => {
    var e;
    for (e in data.fighters.categories) {
      e = ignoreCaps(category, data.fighters.categories[e]);
      if (e != "") return ignoreCaps(category, e);
    }
    if (e === "") return "Unknown";
  })();
  data.fighters.content[name].stat = {};
  data.fighters.content[name].stat.hp = hp
  data.fighters.content[name].stat.atk = atk
  data.fighters.content[name].stat.def = def
  data.fighters.content[name].stat.spd = spd
  data.fighters.content[name].stat.satk = satk
  data.fighters.content[name].stat.sdef = sdef
};

When the "addFighter" function is compleetly setup the data can be added with one simple line. Currently that's:

Code:

addFighter("Kid Goku", "Starting", 45, 49, 49, 45, 65, 65);

With all the data stored in a object you can convert it pretty much to anything. Here's a conversion function that alerts part of the pokémon essentials data:

Code:

printFighter = (name) => {
  var esName = "Name=" + data.fighters.content[name].name;
  //InternalName=BULBASAUR
  //Type1=GRASS
  //Type2=POISON
  var esStats = "BaseStats=";
  for (var i in data.fighters.stats) {
    var stat = data.fighters.stats[i];
    esStats += data.fighters.content[name].stat[stat];
    if (i != data.fighters.stats.length - 1) esStats += ",";
  }
  alert(esName + "\n" + "InternalName=BULBASAUR" + "\n" + "Type1=GRASS" + "\n" + "Type2=POISON" + "\n" + esStats);
};

When the "printFighter" function is compleetly setup the data can be printed with one simple line. Currently that's:

Code:

printFighter("Kid Goku");

Right now it alert the following content:

[S-HIGHLIGHT]Name=Kid Goku
InternalName=BULBASAUR
Type1=GRASS
Type2=POISON
BaseStats=45,49,49,45,65,65[/S-HIGHLIGHT]

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LorisC said:

There's a big problem with that; All the fighters the in-game trainers use have happiness=0, so using happiness in formulas isn't so recommended!

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LorisC said:

Actually I already have all the fighter entries, all that is missing are the stats, using js only for that may be too much... I'll decide what to do!

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CoolKnightST said:

Ow that stucks, I think it's still possible tho when it's done like this:

Base Power [ 50 + (0.5 * ( ( 1+ Friendship ) - ( ( 1+ Target Friendship ) / 2 ) ) ) ]

Technically it would give 256 points for Friendship but I doubt many would bother by it. Or does essentials calculate additional things with the friendship variable when it's called by moves?

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CoolKnightST said:

Yeah your right, for an ingame edite something like Python or Java would probally do that stuff a lot faster. But automating that would actually be very simple:

//Get file
//Stream & buffer file (loop through each line) (all data from the file should be stored in a variable)
//Check if index 8 of line is "="
//Check if left handling of "=" is "BaseStats" (so 0 to index is BaseStats)
//If true override right handling of "=" (basicly index to line.length is value BaseStats)
//Print Array of stats to location and format it with ","

I actually really like what I code so far. Maybe I write a full js version to covert the pokémon essential data to objects and the other way arround and share it with the pokémon community.

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LorisC said:

I discovered Yamoshi yesterday! He can be an interesting addition, a special fighter obtainable with particular steps... I hope to remember him for future updates!

The map can be useful, I can use it as base to create the world map, thanks.

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CoolKnightST said:

I found the map on google but I'm currently adding the missing data to it. Their are a lot more locations missing that need to be added their. Than their is the fact that not all area probally should be included in the rom hack because of their little to no use. And finally their is the factor of creating additional areas and fanfiction changes to make some fighters more realistic to be in that location. To take the Namekians for example. They can be handled like Clefairy where some fights strand of the planet and can be found on certain location. Or you can you can go for a settlement where the Namekian actually started a village on the planet. And the last one would be that they actually life on Namek and you need a spaceship to get their.

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LorisC said:

I have an idea on the reason why certain fighters will be present with some others, because if we want to use only the original Dragon Ball story, for example, all the fighters from other universes won't be found anywhere.
I'm aiming to create a story that motivates the presence of DragonBall fighters instead of Pokemons, and the idea is to create it in a way that lets me to expand things in the future.

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CoolKnightST said:

Great,

I just came with another idea for an alternation how "Obedience" for fighters work. In the current pokémon system. Fighters that don't listen to it's trainer will often skip turns and so. But how about we change that to something like an off-guard system (typical Goku style). Where the fighter defense and special defense sharply drops for a turn. A lot more of those typical dragonball things could be in their rather. Not all of them could be replaced but some of them could be intressting.

Source: https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Obedience

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LorisC said:

I completed the program I was working on to simplify the management of the Pokemon entries, you can find it here: https://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?p=9807411#post9807411.

Now I'll also post the required files to start giving stats.

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LorisC said:

I've written everything in the main post, now I hope some people will help!

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CoolKnightST said:

Does this work? What seperate hidden character did you use seperate the lines. It's kinda anyoing to read them manual now. Why didn't you implement [S-HIGHLIGHT]\n[/S-HIGHLIGHT] to make it visually more apealing. It's also hard to update now when you just need to make a small edit without using the program. It's much easyier to buffer it from line to line since one line has a limit on how characters you can load from a file. This get's even worse in an online situation.

Edite: Nvm, .txt just didn't support the nextline command that was used js still supported it. I converted the data to js to give a better overview for myself. We still need some guidelines for the average stats used. Have you decided what will be the starter(s) or if their would be a starter add all?

353 fighters to work with. That some nice work ;)

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LorisC said:

Actually I maintained the same format as the original file, with a commented line made of - - - - - between each entry.
It must be only a problem of the tool you used to open the txt file that doesn't read newlines.

Regarding the starters, I haven't decided! I was thinking to use kid Goku as on of the starters... The other ones could be an evil character, someone like frieza, and a third one I still haven't decided, maybe Vegeta.

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CoolKnightST said:

Having some type variation could indeed be intressting. I looped through all lines and it seems you currently have:

Saiyan, Ssj, God, Earthling, Namekian, Alien, Beast, Demon, Dark, Friezarace, Android, Tuffle, Dragon

I'm not sure it's a good idea to try to create 3 starters. Despite Frieza looks intressting as starter. I think it will shake the ballance of popularity. Why not just stick with Kid Goku as starter? Or just include someone else as starter. The main reason for that is that Goku has a large variation of evolutions making it very difficult to mess up when you evolved him into the wrong direction (unless you are going to make him available later on in the wild).

When I noticed from experience from previous dragon ball hacks. One that I remembered included Goku, Gohan & Vegata as starter. But that was a time where both 3 characters where about equal in popularity. I did notice in that version that Freeze was obtainable way to late in that game what caused a lot of problems for his use.

So personally I think it's just easyier to include Goku as the only starter. Their will be enouge unique characters avaiable in the game that are hard to obtain and it's not like many people are not going to pick Goku anyway when the other starters won't give you a specific advantage while progressing in the game.

So I see 3 options for the starters:
- Kid Goku as only starter
- Kid Goku, Vegeta & Gohan as starter
- (Unique Typings) Kid Goku, Freeza and probally a typing that would make for a sort a ballance trio like an Alien or Dragon.

Their is a 4th option however and that's just creating 3 fake starters that have these typings in mind. Starters that you can ballance and each have 2 evolutions & a mega evolution.

It's a difficult topic since their is a high chance every player will endup with the same team and that would suck for the experience when they don't have room to explore new things. But not enouge main characters obtainable early would suck as well.

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• SAIYAN = 37
• SSJ = 41
• GOD = 12
• EARTHLING = 32
• NAMEKIAN = 6
• ALIEN = 110
• BEAST = 5
• DEMON = 49
• DARK = 0
• FRIEZARACE = 16
• ANDROID = 36
• TUFFLE = 9
• DRAGON = 0

//data object not included
var typeList = {};
for (var type of data.types) typeList[type] = [];
for (var fighters in data.content) {
  tempType = data.content[fighters]["Type1"];
  for (var type of data.types)
    if (tempType === type) typeList[type].push(data.content[fighters]);
}
print = "";
for (var type of data.types) {
  print += type + " = " + typeList[type].length + "\n";
}

[B]Number of total fighters with primary type (without secondary typing):[/B]
[LIST]
[*]SAIYAN = 28
[*]SSJ = 30
[*]GOD = 10
[*]EARTHLING = 31
[*]NAMEKIAN = 6
[*]ALIEN = 105
[*]BEAST = 0
[*]DEMON = 38
[*]DARK = 0
[*]FRIEZARACE = 14
[*]ANDROID = 29
[*]TUFFLE = 6
[*]DRAGON = 0
[/LIST]

[B]Number of total fighters with primary type (with secondary typing):[/B]
[LIST]
[*]SAIYAN = 9
[*]SSJ = 11
[*]GOD = 2
[*]EARTHLING = 1
[*]NAMEKIAN = 0
[*]ALIEN = 5
[*]BEAST = 5
[*]DEMON = 11
[*]DARK = 0
[*]FRIEZARACE = 2
[*]ANDROID = 7
[*]TUFFLE = 3
[*]DRAGON = 0
[/LIST]