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    My apologies if this doesnt being anywhere but my question is was there any Pokemon in THIS GEN that you should should have been able to learn certain moves but they can't?


    For example: the thread title.And I can list other moves I thnk Gothitelle should have but I dont want to make it all about her.


    For the Tepig line, they should have close combat as well but that's me.
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    Old June 14th, 2011 (9:44 AM).
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      True Tepig's line needed close combat...but I don't think Gothitelle needed it...
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        yeah, tepig needs close combat, I agree. I do not think Marowak should learn Headbutt at lvl 11, as it already has that move as it's starting moves. Marowak should also have learned Earthquake, sandstorm, and take down. Just my opinion though.
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          True Tepig's line needed close combat...but I don't think Gothitelle needed it...
          I think she needed because she has Brick Break and low sweep. Also it would make her a good fighter and not so hated. If you mixed:

          Close Combat
          Karate Chop
          Cross Chop
          Reversal
          Focus Punch
          High jump kick

          with Swords Dance (a status move Gothitelle should have), you come up with one awesome fighter.
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            Ferrowseed definitely needed to learn rapid spin i have NO IDEA why he doesnt he spins constantly for goodness sake. one thing i did like is all the starters had a semi-signature move when i say semi i mean there the only ones in there gen that can learn it. That was really kool especially with heat smash.

            BTW anyone notice on Serebi.com and on the 3D dex its says that Scraggy learns Faint attack at lvl 9 but its also labled as an egg move? whats up with dat?
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            OK, tell me one thing: how is it that Kyurem is unable to learn Frost Breath? Almost every other Ice-type Pokemon is able to learn it. Even Regice can learn it, and has no mouth to expel breath out of. Kyurem's Pokedex entry from White says "It can produce ultracold air." Anyone else think this makes no sense whatsoever?
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              OK, tell me one thing: how is it that Kyurem is unable to learn Frost Breath? Almost every other Ice-type Pokemon is able to learn it. Even Regice can learn it, and has no mouth to expel breath out of. Kyurem's Pokedex entry from White says "It can produce ultracold air." Anyone else think this makes no sense whatsoever?
              Agreed...it's like the creators weren't paying attention when they were making Kyu's moveset...
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              OK, tell me one thing: how is it that Kyurem is unable to learn Frost Breath? Almost every other Ice-type Pokemon is able to learn it. Even Regice can learn it, and has no mouth to expel breath out of. Kyurem's Pokedex entry from White says "It can produce ultracold air." Anyone else think this makes no sense whatsoever?
              I think the Pokedex refers to the fact that a start move for it is Icy Wind. But in the same vein, Emboar's entry: "It can throw a fire punch by setting its fists on fire with its fiery chin." Emboar does not learn Fire Punch. Wat.jpg
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                I really think that Golurk should have gotten Close Combat. It's a robot--they get in the opponent's faceplate when they try and beat the scrap out of each other. Close Combat would make sense in that case.

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                  Yeah close combat is awesome. That's why I said it for Gothitelle. Speaking of Goth, hammer arm.
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                    Ferrowseed definitely needed to learn rapid spin i have NO IDEA why he doesnt he spins constantly for goodness sake. one thing i did like is all the starters had a semi-signature move when i say semi i mean there the only ones in there gen that can learn it. That was really kool especially with heat smash.

                    BTW anyone notice on Serebi.com and on the 3D dex its says that Scraggy learns Faint attack at lvl 9 but its also labled as an egg move? whats up with dat?
                    It's true. L1 Scraggy can learn Faint Attack from the father (as well as if both parents have it, through the other breeding rule since it learns it at L9).
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                      Close combat would help the Tepig evolutions, but Gothitelle......? It's just not necessary. If it were Psychic/Fighting, then sure, but as a pure Psychic type, it just doesn't seem necessary. And HAMMER ARM?!?!?!? Gothitelle barely has arms at all! Hammer Arm is for muscular Pokemon, not Psychic types with skinny, weak arms! Gothitelle with physical Psychic moves is like giving a Magikarp access to Judgement. It's just not right. Anyways, Gothitelle's physical attack is so weak that Close Combat would harm it more than help it.
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                        Snivy's line need Earthquake or something, their move-set is so lame!
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                        Yeah close combat is awesome. That's why I said it for Gothitelle. Speaking of Goth, hammer arm.
                        I don't think Gothitelle really needs Fighting moves other than Focus Blast because it doesn't really look like a warrior, IMO.

                        Other than that, I think that Serperior, Samurott, Reshiram and Zekrom should have gotten Earthquake as a TM move. I can see why Reshiram and Zekrom can't learn it, possibly in order to keep both in balance by not hitting each other supereffectively other than Dragon moves. I don't see why Serperior and Samurott can't learn it.
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                          Tepig doesn't need Close Combat, it already gets head smash and hammer arm. Gothitelle? You can be a fan of the poke all you want, but that's just totally unnecessary. It's not part fighting, it's not even an agressive looking Pokemon with high attack like Zangoose, an example of a non fighting pokemon that learns CC. Also Tepig is slow, and CC is a move for very swift pokemon like infernape and gallade.
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                            Close combat would help the Tepig evolutions, but Gothitelle......? It's just not necessary. If it were Psychic/Fighting, then sure, but as a pure Psychic type, it just doesn't seem necessary. And HAMMER ARM?!?!?!? Gothitelle barely has arms at all! Hammer Arm is for muscular Pokemon, not Psychic types with skinny, weak arms!
                            Agreed I think Gothitelle actually has one of the more thought out sets, Unlike Emboar It has the word Fire punch in its Dex description yet it does not learn fire punch, and Ferrowseed cant learn rapid spin i just don't think nintendo had their head in the game when designing move sets. More retardedness the most powerful fighting move emboar learns naturaly is arm thrust and it learns Roar at lvl 55! pokemon learn that at like lvl 2 for goodness sake
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                              Why is everyone so against Goth having close combat? Don't you agree that it needs better moves? Or do you want it to be hated forever?
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                                Why is everyone so against Goth having close combat? Don't you agree that it needs better moves? Or do you want it to be hated forever?

                                CC is for the physicall attacker... like inferape or gallade... for Goth... it needs to learn focuse blast to take care of dark weakness like Alkazem... seriously look at its state and tell me how on earth goth is pysicall attacker...
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                                  I really wish every speciall attacking pysics to be able to learn Focuse blast.
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                                    lol, a Lilligant is alright I guess, but it's the ultimate Grass-type sweeper.

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                                    Also, I agree Gothitelle is better as a special wall, rather than anything else. Giving it more Fighting attacks ruins her purpose, it would rather be better with Charm to take care of those physical Dark-types, and Shadow Ball to get rid of Ghost-types.
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                                    ...Gothitelle wouldn't even be able to use Close Combat correctly. I'm all for being a big fan of a Pokemon, but I think the fact that Gothitelle is your favorite is getting the better of you here.

                                    Now, Emboar could have made use of Close Combat though.
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                                      Well, the 3/4 of that is a set by itself, the last move can be Energy Ball or SolarBeam or something else, but it's recommended to be Synthesis, just because it's a sweeper/wall.

                                      I seriously think Serperior should've learned Power Whip instead of Leaf Storm. I mean, it's obviously not cut out for special attacking, so why give it an attack that lowers the stat by two stages? I mean, Serperior doesn't learn Power Whip, but Venusaur does?

                                      wtf troll freak.

                                      ...Then again, Leaf Storm is probably just there for all those who've managed to somehow encounter a DW Serperior/Snivy with Contrary. Then they can murder everyone with Leaf Storm.
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                                      Lilligant needs something else to do... Mine has the Sleep Powder/Dream Eater combo since it was like the only non grass-type special move that would work with mine (mine had a crap HP type).

                                      Eelektross with Water Pulse. It is an EleFISH Pokemon, after all.

                                      Samurott line needs Earthquake. Frost Breath would be nice as well on it since you don't get Ice Beam till the postgame.
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                                        And I have a question: Why are you so against having Gothitelle learning Focus Blast? Not even that, slap CM on it and have spam HP Fighting. I will just about guarantee you that it will always do more damage that anything close combat or any physical fighting move that you could ever give it.
                                        Focus Blast has like 50% accuracy so it almost always misses. So that'd be a waste of space on my movepool. I dislike moves that have below 95% accuracy. My Brick Break that I slapped on her has 100% accuracy so I am able to OHKO dark types.

                                        I do have HP Fighting and Calm Mind. And it works great and fine and dandy. But then I look at Renuclus and it can get away with EVERYTHING. I want to get away with something, my Pokemon's not perfect like that but she can get the job done. That's why I replaced CM with Rock Slide.
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                                          I don't think Gothitelle is hated because of it's moves, now. Gothitelle has plenty of status moves which are important to any strategy, regardless. Gothitelle can also learn Dark Pulse from Lucario which is a very good move. Gothitelle is really for people who know how to manage psychic type pokemon and how to raise them. Most people who don't like Gothitelle or any other specific pokemon are usually not very good in managing that specific pokemon, or just don't like what they look like (which is very unwise, of course) I think that to raise Gothitelle better, you should focuse in the moves it does have, instead of dwelling over what moves it should have. I know a lot of people who think pokemon should have these moves or should be able to do this and so on. I say just study what moves they do have.
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