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Tool [Alpha] (MEH) Map Editor of Happiness

Started by Shiny Quagsire January 1st, 2014 12:18 AM
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Shiny Quagsire

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Map Editor of Happiness
A new tool for a new and glorious year in hacking.

Announcing the glorious arrival of the first ever cross-platform and open-source map editor for Generation III games written by Shiny Quagsire and interdpth



Why?
We're going to put it nice and simple: Because AdvanceMap sucks. It always has, and it always will. AdvanceMap is the classic example of a tool that is the equivalent of Windows: People only use it because it's the only option that is supported widely. Once AdvanceMap overcame EliteMap nobody bothered to make a better map editor. That is, until two months ago. Like many glorious hacks, it started as an idea bounced around in RomHack.me's IRC. Then Linkandzelda made his titlescreen tool using Java and that got the ball rolling. I decided to make an LZ77 decompression tool and from there I decompressed graphics. Then one thing led to another and we had a map editor.

But that aside, why should you use MEH? Well, we have two words to answer that. Open Source. This means that is someone has a cool ASM hack such as karatekid552/Jambo51's 649 patch and they want to add support to MEH for all those extra Pokemon, they can take the code for MEH and implement it. Want to add Day/Night support? You can do that. Day/Night Pokemon? Sure. 3 Layer Tile Hack? Easy.

With MEH we are striving to create the ultimate map editor for all Generation III games. And to do this we are also adding support for plugins. Currently plugins are in a beta state but as the tool develops instead of redownloading an entirely new version of MEH you can just update individual plugins, even automatically, thus making it more expandable than ever.

Features
  • Cross-Platform Support - Works on any OS that can install Java. Period. (Linux users rejoice!)
  • Faster load times - Loads maps in seconds!
  • Threaded loading - No more freezing, no more pain.
  • Intuitive yet friendly interface - Fixes what was broken while keeping what worked
  • Revolutionary connections editor - Connection editing has never been easier! Now all it takes is a click and a drag to adjust connections, and edits are even mirrored onto opposite connections!
  • Lack of Leaf Green and Sapphire support - Because we never liked them anyways. Actually we're just lazy...
  • Safe freespace finding - No more corruption in Emerald, no mess in Fire Red, just safety and peace of mind.
  • And more to come!

What's Missing So Far...
  • A place to edit settings
  • Removing Connections
  • NPC editor is slightly bugged
  • A few small things I keep forgetting to fix
  • Anything else I forgot to remember

Glorious Screenshots




Disclaimer and Downloads
Slow down there feller, this thing isn't stable yet. It could explode in your face and kill your grandmother. It could murder your family. It could do all sorts of things. Which is why you must agree to the following disclaimer for the duration of this tool's open testing period:

WARNING: THIS TOOL IS IN AN OPEN ALPHA AND WHILE IT IS SUITABLE FOR USE, IT MAY OR MAY NOT BLOW UP IN YOUR FACE AND/OR RUIN YOUR ROM. WHILE USING THIS TOOL, MAKE BACKUPS OFTEN OR FACE THE CONSEQUENCES...

That aside, feel free to download and try out MEH. Bug reports are welcome and will aid in the development and maturing of MEH

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Other than that, have a happy new year!

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Yay! It's about time for an open source map editor for Generation III! LU-HO's AdvanceMap will be history, because it was never open-source and LU-HO has disappeared, his website has gone down and everything, assuming that he probably might've died in real life or that he might have just moved on and forgotten about ROM Hacking entirely.

Anyways, yay! I'm sooo looking forward to MEH improving, it will one day get to the stage of supporting LeafGreen and Sapphire as well as any type of game code, even custom game codes! ^^

We really should host the source code on some website like SourceForge, so then we can help improve MEH and make it become the best Generation III map editor ever to be made!

Maybe one day once I've learned programming, I might contribute to MEH. ^^
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Kakarot1212

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So, this is still in alpha stage? So that alone, makes AMap better than MEH this time around.
I'll download this as soon as the stable version will be released.
As of now, AMap is more suitable for Hacking :D

Oh, and one question, what makes MEH better than Lu-Ho's AMap? =)

Ace_Master_of_Turtles

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YES SHINY YES! YEEESSSSS!!! MEH FTW

So, this is still in alpha stage? So that alone, makes AMap better than MEH this time around.
I'll download this as soon as the stable version will be released.
As of now, AMap is more suitable for Hacking :D

Oh, and one question, what makes MEH better than Lu-Ho's AMap? =)
I'm Quoting stright from the main post:
"we have two words to answer that. Open Source. This means that is someone has a cool ASM hack such as karatekid552/Jambo51's 649 patch and they want to add support to MEH for all those extra Pokemon, they can take the code for MEH and implement it. Want to add Day/Night support? You can do that. Day/Night Pokemon? Sure. 3 Layer Tile Hack? Easy"
Also less bugginess, a mime ( I can't explain it, ask shiny or interdpth ), and OPENING MAPS/BANKS IN SECONDS ( love this one )
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JackHack96

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Wow wow! Not bad! As a Linux user I'm happy to see such a big tool coming...

I'll try this...
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NarutoActor

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Congrats, this is a really nice tool. (But what is "mime"?)
For someone who jokes on AM, your tool looks very similar XD ("Suspicious")
But I love the fact that it is open source, there was always a bunch of "little things" that I wished I could of fixed with AM.
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Shiny Quagsire

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So, this is still in alpha stage? So that alone, makes AMap better than MEH this time around.
I'll download this as soon as the stable version will be released.
As of now, AMap is more suitable for Hacking :D

Oh, and one question, what makes MEH better than Lu-Ho's AMap? =)
I'm not going to lie, there's way to many things missing at this point to make it a good map editor to use full-time. I just wanted to get some input from the community and get an idea of what features the people here might want. So yes, A-Map is more suitable for hacking right now. But MEH is getting close.

Congrats, this is a really nice tool. (But what is "mime"?)
For someone who jokes on AM, your tool looks very similar XD ("Suspicious")
But I love the fact that it is open source, there was always a bunch of "little things" that I wished I could of fixed with AM.

Just a header viewer.

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One large problem that I had with a-map was the warps. It was too damn complicated. It would be cool if there was a tile that you could place while under the events tab (or connections), and then if you right clicked on it there would be an "assign" option where you would choose what map and which tile inside the map that it warps you to.

P.S. you should take out the "like" in "can like see" under the mime tab
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This is great! No more buggy Advance Map lol
I'm probably gonna wait until you release an actual beta before commenting on it,
but one feature that would be nice would be having MEH automatically detect the palettes used when inserting new tilesets.
honestly going back and forth between advance map and irfanview is such a hassle...
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I got some ideas

-Have a tooltip that displays the block number of the block you have the cursor on. Maybe even display the X, Y co-oords too. Makes it easier than looking down at the bottom of screen like you had to do in A-map. I also noticed the current tile thing. That is a better spot than the bottom for sure. =P

-Maybe have annotations that you can edit on the map list like this...
Spoiler:

Renegade

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Just remembered something I would like to see in MEH. It would be helpful if, in the "Wild Pokemon" section, you put the percentage that the Pokemon spawn so I know exactly how rare a Pokemon is going to be. I know this feature was in an earlier version of A-Map, but it's not in the newer versions which is really a bummer.
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Looks great, in fairness I always wanted a map editor to be open source, unfortunately I'm not able to execute the code w/o getting an error, I already opened an issue, maybe someone can offer me some help.

Anyways, I hope this project is kept up, it would be great to have something that is able to offer the same features as AM does. Also: Hey, AM is not that bad, you were able to work with it for ages and nobody did complain, no reason to underrate it.

By the way: It would be great if you could integrate a world map editor just like AM, the problem is if you edit the world map in AM you mess up all of the catch location entries in your pokedex, I would be grateful if that could be fixed. And it would also be great to offer support for other languages.(In form of XML Files or something like that)

~SBird

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Also: Hey, AM is not that bad, you were able to work with it for ages and nobody did complain, no reason to underrate it.

nobody did complain
nobody did complain


Nooooooooo, of course not, who would ever say something bad about a-map?

Shiny Quagsire

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I got some ideas

-Have a tooltip that displays the block number of the block you have the cursor on. Maybe even display the X, Y co-oords too. Makes it easier than looking down at the bottom of screen like you had to do in A-map. I also noticed the current tile thing. That is a better spot than the bottom for sure. =P

-Maybe have annotations that you can edit on the map list like this...
Spoiler:
Note taken. I actually have similar plans with tilesets, because the thing about tilesets is that the whole numbering system that AdvanceMap had was a complete lie. Tilesets are actually pointers, and nothing else. So there will likely be a "Tileset Registry" where you can see all the tilesets currently used by the loaded maps and name them accordingly. I'll also probably throw in the ability to add tilesets while I'm at it.

Just remembered something I would like to see in MEH. It would be helpful if, in the "Wild Pokemon" section, you put the percentage that the Pokemon spawn so I know exactly how rare a Pokemon is going to be. I know this feature was in an earlier version of A-Map, but it's not in the newer versions which is really a bummer.
I agree, those things were quite useful. Which is why I implemented them when I made the wild pokemon editor just yesterday.

Looks great, in fairness I always wanted a map editor to be open source, unfortunately I'm not able to execute the code w/o getting an error, I already opened an issue, maybe someone can offer me some help.

Anyways, I hope this project is kept up, it would be great to have something that is able to offer the same features as AM does. Also: Hey, AM is not that bad, you were able to work with it for ages and nobody did complain, no reason to underrate it.

By the way: It would be great if you could integrate a world map editor just like AM, the problem is if you edit the world map in AM you mess up all of the catch location entries in your pokedex, I would be grateful if that could be fixed. And it would also be great to offer support for other languages.(In form of XML Files or something like that)

~SBird
Thanks, I took note of the issue and I'll see about that. It's strange because interdpth had the same problem, so I might have forgot to push something. As for AdvanceMap, it wasn't all that bad of a map editor. The problem was the fact that it was universally controlled by one person, and there was no way for any additional features to enter it without them going past him. The other problem is sloppy coding which caused slower load times (an example of this is that instead of just putting a pointer to the wild data table it searches the entire ROM for a byte pattern) and for the famous Emerald sound corruption bug (which was due to A-Map assuming the wrong freespace address for both Fire Red and Emerald).

As for the worldmap editor, I believe interdpth had something cooking but never finished it. I'll have to steal that code from him and get something working out of it. It's rather impressive what he has so far. It can load the worldmap graphics straight from the ROM on Fire Red, Ruby, and Emerald.

Lu-Ho had also made Door Animator and Tile Animators.
Are you going to make some too? Or perhaps implement it into MEH for easier usage.
Animations are among the things that I'd like to do in MEH. My initial plans were to read the animations and have them update in livetime inside the map editor (ie the water will animate in the map editor and block viewer). However the idea was quickly scrapped after I found out that the animations use ASM that would be near impossible to read without some potentially harmful code. I do at least have a plan, and currently it's this: Make up a piece of ASM that will redo the in-game animations to a more friendly format, ie an animation table, then add something to the tool that will convert existing animations to this new format. Then just make an animation editor and we're done.

With all that out of the way, time for a slight status update. So yesterday I was working on MEH, and I managed to finish the Wild Pokemon Editor. Currently all it's missing is the overall encounter ratio (which will be added shortly) and repointing support.

In case anyone is curious, the big thing with repointing is the ability to add and remove things. As of now, the only things in MEH that support repointing is the map editor and the connections editor. So with the map editor you can resize maps just fine and you can add connections without a hitch. With other things like events and pokemon, the only thing you can do is edit existing data, which is obviously not optimal. Fear not though, repointing support will come in due time.

Also I should note that this wild pokemon editor is completely compatible with karatekid's 649 patch. There is a setting in the INI file that can change the number of Pokemon names loaded into memory.

That aside, I also have plans to include either Jambo51's Day/Night pokemon hack or I'll devise one of my own. Either way, you'll be able to edit which Pokemon appear in the daytime and at night, thus making D/N systems a LOT more useful than just aesthetics.

destinedjagold

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Question about the tool repointing stuff.
Will the tool repoint automatically or will we have an option to manually put free space of our choice?
And also, will it check the offset if it's free before it repoints?
Advance Map is annoying with its repointing, since it has chances of overwriting not-free space, hence ruining a number of my repointed maps. =/

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