Graphics: DS-style Gen VII and Beyond Pokémon Sprite Repository in 64x64

leparagon · Jan 24, 2018

mangamanga said:
Hello again! As Darkdragon is ready to update the main one and Leparagon raised a new Incineroar, I figured it's a good time to upload certain sprites ¿?

Guzzlord first, it had been approved by Leparagon. I also added a wing to the backsprite.

Drampa has not been approved, but here is just in case.

Also, I want to take advantage of presenting the following sprites:

The case in Rockruff is that I do something strange in the face, the right eye, the hair on the cheeks and snout, plus all the stones of his neck were the same size. In this I occupied the same palette except slight changes.
While in the case of Yungoos, the face did not find it similar to that of the Pokémon, its teeth were somewhat disordered and other minor details. This occupies the palette of the Sun and Moon mini for the normal and the previous palette for the shiny.

-Google translate-

dont worry about the guzzlord. I have been sending updated sprites to darkdragon through private message and I have already used your guzzlord with a new backsprite. although I corrected a few things on your sprite.

as for drampa, rockruff, and yungoos, I do not agree with them. quality and aesthetics are more important than accuracy.

for rockruff, thank you for pointing out the stones on the neck. I will fix that. however, many other sprites have eyes sprited that way, like some of the newer Chikorita sprites for example. but okay, i'll change it
the teeth on your yungoos actually look less accurate, to be honest. yungoos' teeth are supposed to be bigger, and the way I sprited the teeth are directly based on the model and some of the official art. aside from that, the eyes look misalligned and the nose is disproportional
for drampa, I disagree with the angle you used. it takes attebtion away from the length of drampa's body and neck. I plan on changing the sprite myself, but differently from this

thank you, mangamanga, for contributing. but please, try not to post sprites that are already done. it impedes progress and it may confuse some of the viewers of this thread. i always try to make my sprites as accurate as possible. if the sprites I make are less accurate than your standards, there is always a good reason for it

thedarkdragon11 · Jan 24, 2018

mangamanga said:
Hello again! As Darkdragon is ready to update the main one and Leparagon raised a new Incineroar, I figured it's a good time to upload certain sprites ¿?

Guzzlord first, it had been approved by Leparagon. I also added a wing to the backsprite.

Drampa has not been approved, but here is just in case.

Also, I want to take advantage of presenting the following sprites:

The case in Rockruff is that I do something strange in the face, the right eye, the hair on the cheeks and snout, plus all the stones of his neck were the same size. In this I occupied the same palette except slight changes.
While in the case of Yungoos, the face did not find it similar to that of the Pokémon, its teeth were somewhat disordered and other minor details. This occupies the palette of the Sun and Moon mini for the normal and the previous palette for the shiny.

-Google translate-

Ah, submissions are still suspended... But thanks for the sprites anyway... Only le_paragon, Z-nogyroP, Megax Rocker and MBCMechachu can post sprites in the meantime as we undergo fixes and replacements for the featured sprites...

mangamanga · Jan 25, 2018

Hello again! this time I would like to clarify some things.

Spoiler:

I do not want to sound aggressive, but it has a direct relationship with the sprites I mentioned earlier and LeParagon's answers.
Unquestionably LeParagon is an incredible spriter, but this I do to help improve the appearance of these sprites and maybe he has been offended every time I intend to do some of his sprites again (coincidentally I just happened to redo these).
I understand that almost always making my sprites from 3d models does not give the best visual section, but if they are not used I would like certain of their elements to be used as a reference.
In the case of Yungoos, it is worth mentioning that the current sprite was rejected in the past because it was not of the required style (see page 36) and only suffered a resizing. There is a lot of truth in which right eye could have another position, but it is that eye has more relation with the size of the pokémon besides fulfilling at least with that it is not half covered with the yellow hair of this one (In fact, it should not be neither a little covered), the ears should be more rounded (if you can, and is that they are stretched), the legs escape the original size for quite, the shape of his forehead and his back (and the line of this) they differ somewhat in their true form and, these are things that are easily arranged. In my sprite I accept that his nose is not where it belongs, but disproportionate is not (he appears with the 3d model), and to finish with Yungoos, his teeth. According to the model, the perspec- tive I made considers the minimum chin under the denture and the height of the teeth is directly proportional to the one of this, that is, I erred in the execution of these.
In the case of Rockruff I will be shorter. His tail is beautifully executed, but his face leaves to be desired. Her ears do not coincide, both because of the dark spot shape and the absence of the line, which makes her look empty. The snout is just a flattened oval, without comments. And finally his eyes, which are not the eyes of Rockuff, even shine. As for the right eye, that of Chikorita, it is not the same. The pokémon in which this technique was applied respected the fact whether the creature has bulging eyes or not, not so in the case of Rockruff.
I do not dispute that the perspective of Drampa is uncomfortable, but in my opinion it is much more than the current forced pose. However, this matter is out of the question when you said you would do something about it.
Same with Guzzlord, with which the tongue was not painted correctly, and thanks for fixing it as you mentioned.
Finally, with the Mimikyu sprite that I sent some time ago, I must say that my goal was to replace the Busted sprite, because the previous one was going anywhere, nothing faithful to the original, but the escuza can be the same with the ears: "They only wrinkle", besides the face was strange, the mouth was only a zigzag and the color of the cheeks was very strong.
Actually and as everyone here I just want to help, and I regret a lot to repeatedly commit the error of posting sprites in periods when it does not correspond, but seriously, I was very keen to contribute to this cause.
Although it is, and as I just did, I want, and without intending to hurt anyone, I contributed ideas and suggestions, and I know how open they are to suggestions, but I did not like that LeParagon corrected me on their own shortcomings, and I really appreciate your work.
I am very grateful to anyone who has had the patience to get to this point, I will always be willing to help here and I will not interrupt more unnecessarily, that's all.
I'm not looking to destroy them, just make them bigger.

-Google Translate-

leparagon · Jan 27, 2018

mangamanga said:
Hello again! this time I would like to clarify some things.

Spoiler:

I do not want to sound aggressive, but it has a direct relationship with the sprites I mentioned earlier and LeParagon's answers.
Unquestionably LeParagon is an incredible spriter, but this I do to help improve the appearance of these sprites and maybe he has been offended every time I intend to do some of his sprites again (coincidentally I just happened to redo these).
I understand that almost always making my sprites from 3d models does not give the best visual section, but if they are not used I would like certain of their elements to be used as a reference.
In the case of Yungoos, it is worth mentioning that the current sprite was rejected in the past because it was not of the required style (see page 36) and only suffered a resizing. There is a lot of truth in which right eye could have another position, but it is that eye has more relation with the size of the pokémon besides fulfilling at least with that it is not half covered with the yellow hair of this one (In fact, it should not be neither a little covered), the ears should be more rounded (if you can, and is that they are stretched), the legs escape the original size for quite, the shape of his forehead and his back (and the line of this) they differ somewhat in their true form and, these are things that are easily arranged. In my sprite I accept that his nose is not where it belongs, but disproportionate is not (he appears with the 3d model), and to finish with Yungoos, his teeth. According to the model, the perspec- tive I made considers the minimum chin under the denture and the height of the teeth is directly proportional to the one of this, that is, I erred in the execution of these.
In the case of Rockruff I will be shorter. His tail is beautifully executed, but his face leaves to be desired. Her ears do not coincide, both because of the dark spot shape and the absence of the line, which makes her look empty. The snout is just a flattened oval, without comments. And finally his eyes, which are not the eyes of Rockuff, even shine. As for the right eye, that of Chikorita, it is not the same. The pokémon in which this technique was applied respected the fact whether the creature has bulging eyes or not, not so in the case of Rockruff.
I do not dispute that the perspective of Drampa is uncomfortable, but in my opinion it is much more than the current forced pose. However, this matter is out of the question when you said you would do something about it.
Same with Guzzlord, with which the tongue was not painted correctly, and thanks for fixing it as you mentioned.
Finally, with the Mimikyu sprite that I sent some time ago, I must say that my goal was to replace the Busted sprite, because the previous one was going anywhere, nothing faithful to the original, but the escuza can be the same with the ears: "They only wrinkle", besides the face was strange, the mouth was only a zigzag and the color of the cheeks was very strong.
Actually and as everyone here I just want to help, and I regret a lot to repeatedly commit the error of posting sprites in periods when it does not correspond, but seriously, I was very keen to contribute to this cause.
Although it is, and as I just did, I want, and without intending to hurt anyone, I contributed ideas and suggestions, and I know how open they are to suggestions, but I did not like that LeParagon corrected me on their own shortcomings, and I really appreciate your work.
I am very grateful to anyone who has had the patience to get to this point, I will always be willing to help here and I will not interrupt more unnecessarily, that's all.
I'm not looking to destroy them, just make them bigger.

-Google Translate-

hi again manga! i'll address some of the things you mentioned

Spoiler:

i was hoping you wouldn't think i was mad or anything. i have never taken offense in any of your submissions or contributions. i am very happy when people want to help out or contribute in any way they can. if you did not see it before, BlackWhiteRobin helped out with my sprite of Decidueye and i was very impressed by his edits and decided to use his. the only time i will reject something is if i professionally and objectively think it has issues that take away from its overall quality. things like the color, pose, shading, or linework or anything easily noticeable in the sprite. if it is good overall with only very small issues, I will accept it and just take care of those small issues, like with your Guzzlord or BlackWhiteRobin's Decidueye. but if there's a lot of things that need fixing then it will disrupt the smooth work flow of the project. I just want this project to be effective and smooth, so i have to set my standards high, because many people will be using the sprites posted here. so if i tell you that there's a problem with your sprite, it's not to make you feel bad. i point out the issues if i think they can be improved. that's why when you posted your Guzzlord sprite, i immediately accepted it because it was very good

about the sprites you mentioned, i will just clarify my side of things
first of all, it's not always a good idea to use models. they sometimes change the proportions a bit to fit 3D more easily. however, sometimes the 3D models look better than the official art, and that's when it's okay to use them. the same can be said about colors, because the models use less saturated colors because it has a different lighting. in DS style, colors are usually more saturated. sometimes they even use the Dream World art for colors.
for yungoos, i just directly traced the teeth from the official model, then i colored them in the DS style of pokemon. the chin is not visible in the sprite because the angle of yungoos' head is facing down, and i used a black line to show the separation between the chin and the body. but i do agree with you about the ears and eyes. i noticed those a few days ago as well, so i already had plans to fix those
for mimikyu, the busted form is traced over the Dream World art of it, so it's still accurate. in the games, Mimikyu's head goes in only one angle because it is easier to program for the developers, but in many other depictions, its head can fall in any angle because it's just broken and folded. the colros are also more contrasted and saturated to reflect the DS style. there is a separate project for Sugimori colors that we will be covering here in the future. but for now we have to go with more saturated colors. the mouth is a zigzag in its official art and in the game models. we always have to think of how the audience of these sprites will be able to understand the sprites, so we have to make some details more obvious sometimes; in the way you sprited the mouth, many pokemon spriters will easily understand what you made, but the audience could also mistake it as an incoherent line because the zigzag isn't sharp enough
for rockruff, i agree with you that the eyes are different. i gave the wrong example. but don't worry, i'll fix the eye as well, thank you for pointing that out
lastly, when i said "i will fix it", that's because that's one of my jobs here in this project. and since i made the rockruff sprite, it would be easier for me to edit it because it will have be more consistent either way

please do not take offense or think i am mad whenever i post in this manner. i try to keep the work flow in this project as smooth as possible, so i try to summarize my points more briefly. it might come off as harsh sometimes. i was never mad or offended. please remember that my tone in work is different from my tone outside of work. i hope that all makes sense
it's a good thing you joined only recently because the admin before me was MUCH stricter hahaha

once again, thank you manga. and don't worry, once the other admins and i are done with this phase of sprites, i will be inviting you and some other spriters to help in the next phase for this project. you're one of the more talented spriters in this thread, so your help would be greatly appreciated

to everyone else, we're still working on sprites despite the lack of posts here. we're just not posting them quite yet

thedarkdragon11 · Jan 28, 2018

Hello! So here's an update now posted in the OP... For now, the icons:

Solgaleo and Lunala formes:

Surfing and Flying Pikachu:

Furfrou forms:

All are made by Megax Rocker except the Pikachu forms which are made by leParagon...

Submissions for Vivillon forms icons are still open...

Submissions for in-battle (256x64) sprites are still suspended due to us performing some maintenance in preparation for the next phase as leParagon mentioned...

In the meantime, in-battle sprites from the OP will be removed and are transferred to the former hub... DropBox link in the OP still contains those sprites alongside the new icons...

Abdurrahman373 · Jan 28, 2018

thedarkdragon11 said:
Hello! So here's an update now posted in the OP... For now, the icons:

Solgaleo and Lunala formes:

Surfing and Flying Pikachu:

Furfrou forms:

All are made by Megax Rocker except the Pikachu forms which are made by leParagon...

Submissions for Vivillon forms icons are still open...

Submissions for in-battle (256x64) sprites are still suspended due to us performing some maintenance in preparation for the next phase as leParagon mentioned...

In the meantime, in-battle sprites from the OP will be removed and are transferred to the former hub... DropBox link in the OP still contains those sprites alongside the new icons...

is it going to be replaced with the newer sprites? all of them?

thedarkdragon11 · Jan 28, 2018

Abdurrahman373 said:
is it going to be replaced with the newer sprites? all of them?

Some of them will be replaced with a totally newer sprites, some only needs a few tweaking and recolors...

EDIT: Sprites from the December 2017 OP which passed the maintenance untouched are now back in the OP! Do note that they are in DS-style colors...

EDIT 2: Replacements, recolors and QCs of non-Gen. 7 species except Alolan Raichu and Complete Zygarde are now available in the OP! Furfrou trims are now also in the OP!

EDIT 3: Some of the Gen. 7 species are now also in the OP! About 19 sprites left (does not include Vivillon forms)...

leparagon · Feb 1, 2018

the zygarde core and rotom dex icons seemed a bit off so i made new ones. it's too small to qc so it's easier to just make new ones

Neon Skylar · Feb 1, 2018

le_paragon said:
the zygarde core and rotom dex icons seemed a bit off so i made new ones. it's too small to qc so it's easier to just make new ones

It would be good if at some point you picked up the sprites of the 5th gen and the reedit (above all the backsprites). I love your work: D

leparagon · Feb 1, 2018

Neon Skylar said:
It would be good if at some point you picked up the sprites of the 5th gen and the reedit (above all the backsprites). I love your work: D

thanks :) I do want to edit some, but I don't have as much jurisdiction over them as I do here in gen 7. i'll try talking to chaos rush and see what he thinks :)

thedarkdragon11 · Feb 2, 2018

le_paragon said:
thanks :) I do want to edit some, but I don't have as much jurisdiction over them as I do here in gen 7. i'll try talking to chaos rush and see what he thinks :)

I think Chaos Rush's resource thread closed years ago and was marked "completed"...

leparagon · Feb 2, 2018

Neon Skylar said:
It would be good if at some point you picked up the sprites of the 5th gen and the reedit (above all the backsprites). I love your work: D

I spoke with chaos, he said he doesn't have plabs to go back and improve his gen 5, but he reminded me about mrdollsteak's sugimori sprite project. he already improved a lot of the gen 5 sprites! :)

leparagon · Feb 3, 2018

qc'd turtonator's tail part a bit
made new raichu sprites
tapu fronts are from my old sprite sheet, backs are new. started with koko, then made sizes of the others proportionate from that. lele is meant to be much smaller than the others so dont worry about that

thedarkdragon11 · Feb 3, 2018

le_paragon said:
qc'd turtonator's tail part a bit
made new raichu sprites
tapu fronts are from my old sprite sheet, backs are new. started with koko, then made sizes of the others proportionate from that. lele is meant to be much smaller than the others so dont worry about that

Nice! By the way, is that Turtonator sprite similar to the one that you PM'd to me the last time?

leparagon · Feb 4, 2018

thedarkdragon11 said:
Nice! By the way, is that Turtonator sprite similar to the one that you PM'd to me the last time?

yup, just posting it here to make sure people are notified that it's updated

thedarkdragon11 · Feb 4, 2018

le_paragon updates are now posted in the OP...

Megax Rocker · Feb 6, 2018

Indexed and Edited the icons made made by Le Paragon:

Durvank Gade · Feb 8, 2018

THANKS

OtaKun · Feb 9, 2018

Megax Rocker said:
Indexed and Edited the icons made made by Le Paragon:

lol i just logged to see my sprite (rotom icon) with no credit given to me xd

Megax Rocker · Feb 9, 2018

OtaKun said:
lol i just logged to see my sprite (rotom icon) with no credit given to me xd

I belive the one you made is this one:

The one I posted recently was a new one made by Le Paragon.

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