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Old May 12th, 2017 (2:39 AM).
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    I think the biggest issue people have is that SM isn't a 'point A to point B' type of anime. While that's not necessarily a bad thing, it takes on more SoL components that sagas before it which may not be everyone's cup of tea, especially when lot's of SoL anime give the impression that nothing is happening. There's a lack of urgency and while some plot points have been set up, they've not really been explored thus far.

    Perhaps it's because there is no league. Ash didn't come to compete, he came to relax and only enrolled because he thought it would be cool. Considering how there isn't a sense of urgency in getting the badges before the league starts, people are put off.
    It's full on Iyashikei(Healing) Frozocrone... if you like the set up there's a whole genre dedicated to it. Flying Witch, Sweetness and lightning, and K-on are examples of this. There's always been undertones, but Sun and Moon embraced it. It's a feel good show designed to elicit happy emotions in you.

    I guess that isn't what most western fans look for in a Pokemon anime tho :D
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    Old May 12th, 2017 (2:49 AM).
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      I don't think it's what most Western fans like, rather I think it's what most Western fans don't think of when they think of the Pokémon anime.

      Either that, or a lot of fans are teens/young adults and want a more serious anime (why XY is favoured by a lot of people). Or for Ash to grow up and develop as they grew older.

      Most blame BW anyway for confirming he's still ten xD

      Idk the real reason. Probably varies from viewer to viewer.
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      Old May 13th, 2017 (7:49 AM).
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        Well... episode 3 was better than the first 2.

        However... that Rotom Dex VA...

        NO. JUST NO.

        They should have gotten a more 'ghostly' voice and not a dumb 'computerized' voice.

        *sighs*

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        Old May 13th, 2017 (4:41 PM).
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          What the heck? They changed the BGM for the SM anime! They didn't with the sneak peek back in December. If this was the main reason why it took this long for the dub to premiere here in the U.S., then it's outrageous because this is a channel owned by Disney, which has more money than Cartoon Network.

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          So... I watched the first 2 episodes of the Sun/Moon series on demand yesterday.

          It's... okay. I guess.

          But it's trying way to hard to be 'funny' making it not funny at all.

          Also... it's clearly stealing material from Yo Kai Watch. At least from some episodes of Yo Kai Watch that I've seen.

          Also... this Tapu Koko/Ash relationship is giving me a bad feeling that they're going to eventually have Ash catch Tapu Koko.

          If that happens... I will be... VERY UNHAPPY. To say the least.

          I don't know if the series will even be watchable anymore after that.
          Are we watching the same series? Most of the jokes had me bursting with laughter thanks to the change in art style.

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          Well... episode 3 was better than the first 2.

          However... that Rotom Dex VA...

          NO. JUST NO.

          They should have gotten a more 'ghostly' voice and not a dumb 'computerized' voice.

          *sighs*
          Rotom Dex also has a 'computerized" voice in the original Japanese version, so blame the original version?
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          Remember that the dub has always been changing most, if not all the background music so it was expected the sneak peek airing would be a one-off case.
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            What's the opinions on the dub theme song? I didn't like it at all personally, but I liked the end credits music and the animation for them was pretty cool.
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              The end credits is the same as the opening sans lyrics?

              It's enjoyable to me. I've heard better. I've heard worse. Sort of a guilty pleasure of mine.

              Oh...and TPCi changes the BGM simply so that instead of paying royalties to Japan, they can get those royalties instead. Money at the end of the day.
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                Hmm... well then...

                The series is starting to get a little better now.

                It's either that or I have a high tolerance for idiocy.
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                  The end credits is the same as the opening sans lyrics?
                  Yes I realize the end credits music is the same as the intro without music. It's the lyrics of the intro I don't really care for, but as an instrumental it's fine.
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                    Did episode 4 come on on the 14th like it was supposed to? I had the entire series to record all episodes, but it didn't record the episode so I missed the Rowlet episode and it doesn't look like there is going to be a rerun. It may just be on my side, but it annoys the hell out of me, that of all the episodes that could have been skipped, it ends up not recording one of the main freaking episodes. And nothing else was recording at the time.

                    Not only that, but the guide is listing episodes 6 and 7 as like episodes 20 and 21.

                    As for the theme song, not a fan of it. But I hate the Japanese version as well. It is worse that Gen 5 openings.
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                    As for the theme song, not a fan of it. But I hate the Japanese version as well. It is worse that Gen 5 openings.
                    I agree with this. I watched the first two episodes just to see if I would like this saga and unfortunately I hated it just as I expected. You know Sun & Moon is a bad series if its English dub OPs are worse than the other bad saga which was Best Wishes.

                    I get that Sun & Moon's OP is meant to fit with Alola by having that Hawaiian-like sound in the music, but it does definitely sound like something out of a toddler's show as well.
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                      Did episode 4 come on on the 14th like it was supposed to? I had the entire series to record all episodes, but it didn't record the episode so I missed the Rowlet episode and it doesn't look like there is going to be a rerun. It may just be on my side, but it annoys the hell out of me, that of all the episodes that could have been skipped, it ends up not recording one of the main freaking episodes. And nothing else was recording at the time.

                      Not only that, but the guide is listing episodes 6 and 7 as like episodes 20 and 21.
                      Yes the Rowlet episode aired this morning at 9am. For some reason Disney XD ran episode 3 again at 7:30 eastern rather than rerunning episode 4. I noticed the episode numbers are weird like that on my guide too, and it looks like some have the Japanese premiere date listed as their air date.

                      And yeah I agree about the theme song. It has too much of a childish sounding vibe.
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                        Just watched episode 3 of the dub...

                        I gotta say, I prefer Rotomdex dub VA's performance than the original... I feel Daisuke Namikawa's performance is overplayed to the point of him being annoying at times... Roger Callagy performance and the voice effect actually makes him sound like a regular pokedex.
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                          The more episodes I watch, the more I begin to like the SM series.

                          That or I'm starting to get used to the stupidity.
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                            The more episodes I watch, the more I begin to like the SM series.

                            That or I'm starting to get used to the stupidity.
                            Glad to hear you finally like it :D

                            Not really stupid... it has a different feel from other Pokemon series because of the writers fully embracing the iyashikei genre. The show gives a warm and nostalgic vibe that tries to make you smile. Iyashikei is Healing after all :D
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                              To be completely honest...

                              I think it's mostly due to the fact that it's hard for me to hate any Pokemon series.

                              It was bad at first but it's possible I've just... gotten used to it I guess? I don't really know honestly.
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                                My impression of Sun and Moon so far is that it's not bad it's... alright. It's entertaining enough that I'm watching it, mainly because of the funny moments, but I do wish there was more battling and Ash traveled around going for badges and different battles like he did before. There's a little more action than I thought but still could be more. The dub dialogue though to me has been pretty poor so far, and most of the supporting characters are either annoying, feel unnecessary, or are poorly written. I also think there's too much focus on the human characters and not enough on the Pokémon.
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                                Jjc has a true point. I feel Sun & Moon has drifted too much away from the battles, since there's been a notable lack of battling so far, and the human cast getting more focus than the actual Pokemon also feels out-of-place.
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