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Old July 23rd, 2016 (2:07 PM).
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    Been hearing about it but can't find any good answers online. What is it and how does it work?


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    Old July 23rd, 2016 (3:05 PM).
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    The BoltBeam combo is using both Ice Beam and Thunderbolt in a moveset, normally used due to its high amount of coverage.

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    Old July 23rd, 2016 (3:10 PM).
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      Should I include this for Porygon's Moveset?

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      Old July 28th, 2016 (4:50 PM).
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        And I'm sure you all do to. Shuckle Is the definition of OP. With moves like Toxic, Infestation, Shell Smash and Rest, he's completely unstoppable. Let not forget about those defensive stats of his.

        Point is, I need a good strategy for taking down Shuckle, an i need your help. Your help is appreciated.

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        Old July 28th, 2016 (5:32 PM).
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        Shuckle isn't that hard to deal with because of its common weaknesses and low HP undermining its huge defenses. Taunt is one of the best ways to shut it down. The set you mentioned is a prime example of Taunt bait, which is why it's largely ineffective. Steel Pokemon are not only immune to Toxic, they can also hit Shuckle hard with a supereffective STAB attack.

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          I know that Soft-boiled is normally only available as a move tutor attack from FRLG,

          But does it pass to the baby cleffa on breeding?

          If so, is it worth asking around on Trade Chat for one with Soft-Boiled?

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          Sadly, no. Soft-Boiled cannot be bred onto Cleffa at all, whether it be through normal breeding or chain-breeding.

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            Hey, I was wondering if I could get some help with my SD Mega Venusaur EV spread? I'm looking at running Jolly with 236 in Speed to outspeed max speed Timid Heatran and smack it with EQ (as Heatran's Fire Blast does around 50%). Or, I could not worry about Heatran and just go with Adamant with 100 in Speed to outspeed max Speed Azumarill?

            Also, as a general rule - I know generally speaking odd HP gives an extra switch in when Stealth Rocks are on the field, but is it necessary for Pokemon like Mega Venusaur who aren't weak to Rocks?

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              Which stats should I raise to their maximum? Which would benefit Porygon2 most? Right now, my Porygon is running a Modest nature for that boost in Special Attack. Now I'm stuck trying to decide which stats to EV train this thing in and that's where you guys come in. I'll list a few examples below of my ideal EV spreads for Porygon and you guys correct me if I'm wrong. LETS DO THIS TOGETHER!

              252 Hp/ 252 Sp.Atk
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              252 Hp/ 252 Def.
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              170 Hp/ 170 Def./ 170 Sp.Def
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              170 Hp/ 170 Def./ 170 Sp. Atk

              I think the whole 170/170/170 split thing may work best but then again I could be terribly wrong. I can't decide. Please.....HELP MEEEEE!!!!!

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              You usually want to invest in Porygon2's HP/Def/SpDef, as it has fantastic bulk when holding Eviolite, plus it gets Recover. Offensive spreads are generally not worth it due to its low base Speed and kind of average Sp.Attack, and Porygon Z being way better at being an attacker.

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                You usually want to invest in Porygon2's HP/Def/SpDef, as it has fantastic bulk when holding Eviolite, plus it gets Recover. Offensive spreads are generally not worth it due to its low base Speed and kind of average Sp.Attack, and Porygon Z being way better at being an attacker.

                So 170Hp/ 170Def./ and 170 Sp.Def right? Would I have to run stalling moves like thunder wave and toxic with this setup or can I still go on the offense with Tri Attack or Ice Beam?

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                it depends, but generally you want to be utilising Pory2's defences along with Eviolite and its very good movepool.

                Most of the time you will see it being used as a Physical Wall, running a set such as:

                Porygon2 @ Eviolite
                Ability: Trace
                EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD
                Bold Nature
                IVs: 0 Atk
                - Recover
                - Thunder Wave/Toxic
                - Thunderbolt
                - Ice Beam

                Although really you can just interchange the Defence with Special Defence, run the relevant Nature and you have a Special Wall to boot. Recover for Recovery (duh), Thunder Wave to slow down sweepers or Toxic to deal with Walls and BoltBeam for coverage. I've put Trace on here but I mean any of its Abilities are more than usable.

                Now you CAN go on the offensive due to Pory's 105 SpA stat (which to be fair is pretty good) along with Analytic. I would still recommend Eviolite to allow you to live whilst denting Pokémon, maybe using this set:

                Porygon2 @ Eviolite
                Ability: Analytic
                EVs: 248 HP / 252 SpA / 8 SpD
                Modest/Quiet Nature
                IVs: 0 Atk
                - Recover
                - Tri Attack/Psyshock
                - Thunderbolt
                - Ice Beam

                Again, BoltBeam is too great to pass up and Tri Attack is good STAB, whereas Psyshock can be more potential coverage or help with likes of the Pink Blobs. Personally I roll with Tri-Attack.

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                So 170Hp/ 170Def./ and 170 Sp.Def right? Would I have to run stalling moves like thunder wave and toxic with this setup or can I still go on the offense with Tri Attack or Ice Beam?

                That EV spread is rather inefficient. For bulky Pokemon, maximum HP should take priority. An example EV spread is 252 HP/200 Def/56 SDef with a Calm nature. This lets Porygon2 avoid the 2HKO from Excadrill's Earthquake. A more balanced bulk EV spread is 252 HP/120 Def/136 SDef with Calm.

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                  I think I'll go with 252Hp/252Def. Modest nature? Hopefully this will serve as a great tank/special sweeper.

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                    Uh, I know I said I would go with that EV spread but, I can't help but feel that special attack won't leave a mark in competitive battles. What do you think?

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                    I think I'll go with 252Hp/252Def. Modest nature? Hopefully this will serve as a great tank/special sweeper.

                    If you're using 252 HP/252 Def, have Porygon2 use a Bold nature, as Modest would be wasted with no Special Attack investment.

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                      Another option is to use seismic toss e.g. with Chansey or Blastoise which will 3HKO the Shuckle so it won't be able to survive using rest since everything outspeeds it.

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                      Shuckle used to be reasonably good but in the current meta it's pretty easy to walk through. It has no recovery or immunities and even with Shell Smash no offensive potential at all. Just poison/burn it and spam super-effective moves and you'll finish it easily.

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                      You can be pretty creative against those purely defensive mons. Their main problem is the lack of offensive presense, making them easily setup fodder; stuff like SD Bisharp, TG Manaphy and pretty much any Pokemon that has access to Substitute and Calm Mind. Taunt is also pretty good in shutting them down.

                      Even in case they managed to set up on you, you can still use Moves like Haze, Whirlwind and Roar to get rid of their boosts, meaning they have to set up again. And if you want to be really gimmicky, you could still use something with a bigger HP stat, that has access to Final Gambit.

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                        Trying to find some good grass and electric type Pokemon for my team what would you recommend?

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                          Hey, I was wondering if I could get some help with my SD Mega Venusaur EV spread? I'm looking at running Jolly with 236 in Speed to outspeed max speed Timid Heatran and smack it with EQ (as Heatran's Fire Blast does around 50%). Or, I could not worry about Heatran and just go with Adamant with 100 in Speed to outspeed max Speed Azumarill?

                          Also, as a general rule - I know generally speaking odd HP gives an extra switch in when Stealth Rocks are on the field, but is it necessary for Pokemon like Mega Venusaur who aren't weak to Rocks?

                          Thanks for your help!

                          Just bumping this as it got lost amidst the Porgyon talk

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                          That does depend a fair bit on what kind of a team you're building.

                          Offensively Raikou, Thundurus and Mega-Manectric are all powerful and threatening Electric sweepers that can run through poorly prepared or frail teams. For Grass types Serperior is really the only noteable Grass-type although there are offensive variants of Mega-Venusaur that sometimes show up and Mega-Sceptile could be useful on the right team.

                          Defensively Zapdos is pretty damn good and is the only worthwhile defensive Electric Pokemon. As for Grass types Amoongus, Ferrothorn and Mega-Venusaur are fantastic defensive options whilst Celebi can function quite well on some teams also.

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                            What are all the Candy/Sweet Pokemon? I'm making a list for my future themed teams.

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                              Ones that look like candy or that are actually candy related pokemon in their pokedex species entries? If just looking like Candy I would say

                              Swirlix/Slurpuff
                              Vanilite/Vanilish/Vanilux

                              And that's honestly the only ones I can think of out of all of them. There's potentially Sptrizee/Aromatisse, but that's more of a perfume kind of sweet, not a candy kind of sweet. And if you're really stretching Cherubi (cherries) but that's honestly all I can think of

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                                Building a doubles team and I already have my golduck which will be learning soak soon. But I don't have an idea on a moveset for the shedinja I have. Any help?

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