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Not just USUM, but games like Emerald, Platinum should of never existed - the features of them been the first stream of games in the first place. Like those type of games kinda invalidate the exclusivity of the duo games and sorta serve no purpose other than cash grabs.

I mean I still like the games very much but... why make them in the first place when you can just work with the core games?
No offense, but Platinum was needed, and did need to exist. The pokedex in Diamond/Pearl was BAD and needed a huge revision. The games were also really, slow and needed an improvement.

But the rest of this is true.
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    - X and Y are the worst main series Pokemon games.
    - Pokemon is in fact getting way to easy and they should add difficulty options similar to Black/White 2 but without making it a chore to even unlock the difficulty options.
    -Pokemon designs are subjective and you can argue any design is bad/good but that will not change the fact that someone out there loves or hates your favorite design. (aka I think arguing a Pokemon design is bad is pointless/stupid)
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      Gen V has the worst battle and overworld sprites. It felt like a major downgrade from Gen IV (and even Gen III!).
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      No offense, but Platinum was needed, and did need to exist. The pokedex in Diamond/Pearl was BAD and needed a huge revision. The games were also really, slow and needed an improvement.

      But the rest of this is true.
      Why not had the updated Pokdex from Platinum into Pearl and Diamond in the first place was my point here.
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      Why not had the updated Pokdex from Platinum into Pearl and Diamond in the first place was my point here.
      That's why if a Sinnoh remake of D/P happens, I want it to carry over Platinum's Sinnoh Dex.
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      Old July 11th, 2018 (5:34 AM). Edited September 15th, 2018 by VisionofMilotic.
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      1) Black and White was actually better than the sequels.

      Heresy, I know. BW2 has a great post game, but umm... i prefer actual game. I don't think anyone even argues that Zinzolin is better as the face of Team Plasma than N or Ghetsis. There's no more exploration of the morals of the Pokemon world. It does not even make sense why Team Plasma has members now, their goal does not make any friggin sense anymore and they literally have to suggest that Ghetsis has gone crazy to forward this plotline of bringing nuclear winter to Unova and surviving the ice age on an airship. They completely destroyed the calculating, charismatic motivational speaker and to add insult to injury nerfed his team. Even if I bought this, which I don't, there's not enough in it for these other characters. Nobody would help him with a motivation this silly.

      You have fewer rivals, and the one you have Hugh is not memorable. You don't even see the pivotal characters from the original BW games like the N and Ghetsis until the end of the story. But hey screw plot in BW seems to be general opinion, these are the games where you get the nature preserve, battle tree, free shinies and world tournament, and strong pokemon at the beginning of the game like riolu, growlithe, mareep that aren't in the Unova Dex...all things that have no bearing on the plot whatsoever, whether you do pokestar studios has absolutely no impact on the actual story.

      I'm not saying that there's anything wrong with any of the side material, just bringing up that that is what it is, these are cosmetic changes and the actual story content has gotten so much thinner. While its a good game in the franchise I'm not feeling the same love that I did for BW. Popular opinion is that it completely demolishes all memory of the original BW games, and I beg to differ.

      2) Frlg are the worst remakes out there and a disservice

      They changed 1% of the game. The sevii isles looks like beta content, they didn't even bother to name each island nor come up with individual themes, these are literally reused and remixed tracks. They did not enhance the gym layouts after all these years. Compare this with how dynamic Bugsy's gym became in HGSS, or even changes between follow-up games ike Elesa's BW gym vs BW2.

      There were no dramatic contributions to the game mechanics from Ruby and Sapphire, whereas HGSS introduced the Pokeathalon and Pokemon walking with you and Oras brought the dexnav, new megas and soaring. HGSS and ORAS tried to come up with some exciting new features that not only were not in the original games but innovations from Platinum and XY respectively, FRLG did the opposite, it relied on Ruby and Sapphire mechanics without making valuable contributions of itd own to the third gen as a whole. Had FRLG introduced the battle frontier for instance then we might be having a different conversation, but that was Emerald that brought one of the definitive features of 3rd gen. Perhaps FRLG could have incorporated day and night since it did nor have to have the extensive over world weather like RSE, but no such luck.

      I don't think frlg deserves to be held up as the definitive Kanto. There's just not enough here other than looking prettier. I would rather just play the originals. I will play Yellow, since those sprites are still pretty cute and frlg didn't incorporate any of the content from this game. I don't mind playing in bw if I get Jesse, James and Meowth appearances, talking starter pokemon to follow and play with me, I can adopt all of the starter Pokemon and even get to battle with Prof Oak if I glitch.
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      1) Black and White was actually better than the sequels.

      Heresy, I know. BW2 has a great post game, but umm... i prefer actual game. I don't think anyone even argues that Zinzolin is better as the face of Team Plasma than N or Ghetsis. There's no more exploration of the morals of the Pokemon world. It does not even make sense why Team Plasma has members now, their goal does not make any friggin sense anymore and they literally have to suggest that Ghetsis has gone crazy to forward this plotline of bringing nuclear winter to Unova and surviving the ice age on an airship. They completely destroyed the calculating, charismatic motivational speaker and to add insult to injury nerfed his team. Even if I bought this, which I don't, there's not enough in it for these other characters. Nobody would help him with a motivation this silly.

      You have fewer rivals, and the one you have Hugh is not memorable. You don't even see the pivotal characters from the original BW games like the N and Ghetsis until the end of the story. But hey screw plot in BW seems to be general opinion, these are the games where you get the nature preserve, battle tree, free shinies and world tournament, and strong pokemon at the beginning of the game like riolu, growlithe, mareep that aren't in the Unova Dex...all things that have no bearing on the plot whatsoever, whether you do pokestar studios has absolutely no impact on the actual story.

      I'm not saying that there's anything wrong with any of the side material, just bringing up that that is what it is, these are cosmetic changes and the actual story content has gotten so much thinner. While its a good game in the franchise I'm not feeling the same love that I did for BW. Popular opinion is that it completely demolishes all memory of the original BW games, and I beg to differ.

      2) Frlg are the worst remakes out there and a disservice

      They changed 1% of the game. The sevii isles looks like beta content, they didn't even bother to name each island nor come up with individual themes, these are literally reused and remixed tracks. They did not enhance the gym layouts after all these years. Compare this with how dynamic Bugsy's gym became in HGSS, or even changes between follow-up games ike Elesa's BW gym vs BW2.

      There were no dramatic contributions to the game mechanics from Ruby and Sapphire, whereas HGSS introduced the Pokeathalon and Pokemon walking with you and Oras brought the dexnav, new megas and soaring. HGSS and ORAS tried to come up with some exciting new features that not only were not in the original games but innovations from Platinum and XY respectively, FRLG did the opposite, it relied on Ruby and Sapphire mechanics without making valuable contributions of itd own to the third gen as a whole. Had FRLG introduced the battle frontier for instance then we might be having a different conversation, but that was Emerald that brought one of the definitive features of 3rd gen. Perhaps FRLG could have incorporated day and night since it did nor have to have the extensive over world weather like RSE, but no such luck.

      I don't think frlg deserves to be held up as the definitive Kanto. There's just not enough here other than looking prettier. I would rather just play the originals. I will play Yellow, since those sprites are still pretty cute and frlg didn't incorporate any of the content from this game. I don't mind playing in bw if I get Jesse, James and Meowth appearances, talking starter pokemon to follow and play with me, I can adopt all of the starter Pokemon and even get to battle with Prof Oak if I glitch.
      So basically gen 3 is both your favorite and least favorite generation.
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        1) Black and White was actually better than the sequels.

        Heresy, I know. BW2 has a great post game, but umm... i prefer actual game. I don't think anyone even argues that Zinzolin is better as the face of Team Plasma than N or Ghetsis. There's no more exploration of the morals of the Pokemon world. It does not even make sense why Team Plasma has members now, their goal does not make any friggin sense anymore and they literally have to suggest that Ghetsis has gone crazy to forward this plotline of bringing nuclear winter to Unova and surviving the ice age on an airship. They completely destroyed the calculating, charismatic motivational speaker and to add insult to injury nerfed his team. Even if I bought this, which I don't, there's not enough in it for these other characters. Nobody would help him with a motivation this silly.

        You have fewer rivals, and the one you have Hugh is not memorable. You don't even see the pivotal characters from the original BW games like the N and Ghetsis until the end of the story. But hey screw plot in BW seems to be general opinion, these are the games where you get the nature preserve, battle tree, free shinies and world tournament, and strong pokemon at the beginning of the game like riolu, growlithe, mareep that aren't in the Unova Dex...all things that have no bearing on the plot whatsoever, whether you do pokestar studios has absolutely no impact on the actual story.

        I'm not saying that there's anything wrong with any of the side material, just bringing up that that is what it is, these are cosmetic changes and the actual story content has gotten so much thinner. While its a good game in the franchise I'm not feeling the same love that I did for BW. Popular opinion is that it completely demolishes all memory of the original BW games, and I beg to differ.
        Gotta agree with you here. They lost their focus on the important stuff in BW2 with all of the side stuff and, in the end, released a game that is rather boring compared to the original.
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        So basically gen 3 is both your favorite and least favorite generation.
        Nah, I wouldn't go that far to say that this generation marks my favorite and least favorite. Yes, I am wild about Hoenn, especially Emerald. But while Frlg is not the highest on my list of favs, its not the lowest either. Its not my least favorite game in the series by a long shot. My least favorite generation is more recent...
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          I don't really like Kanto, I feel like going through it once was fun but now it's just inconvenient reliving it. Sinnoh is definitely the best region out there, D/P/Pt were the best games in the series.
          Also I agree with whomever stated 'PMD > main series'
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          Alola actually isn't as bad as some people muk on it for!

          sure, it has flaws (like every other region ever), but as a whole, it wasn't a bad region to explore and i personally didn't mind the cutscenes.

          but that may be because i play JRPGs and to the best of my knowledge they're known for long cutscenes
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          -Battle Frontier is overrated
          -Of the Gen 7 games, the ones that people should take issue with are Sun/Moon, not Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon
          -friendly rivals are not inherently bad
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            -Battle Frontier is overrated
            -Of the Gen 7 games, the ones that people should take issue with are Sun/Moon, not Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon
            -friendly rivals are not inherently bad
            -Flygon sucks
            Yeah I realized criticizing USUM is more so because it was released right after it's beta version-esque predecessors. USUM should have been released first instead of the incomplete SM.

            The battle frontier is fun but I agree as well with this. The RNG and difficulty is rough and it pretty much requires competitive bred teams. But at least it was more than one facility unlike the ones we get now.
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              -Flygon sucks
              Yup. Idk why people make such a big deal about its mega not being there. Sure, it's a good pokemon, it deserves one, but it's nothing compared to Garchomp, or Zygarde.
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                Alright here I am again with a couple more unpopular opinions:
                • Object-based Pokmon are not less creative, less worthy of being in the games, nor inferior in any way to organic-based Pokmon. Their designs are often really charming; I liked them in Kanto and I still like them all the way into Alola. Their presence makes the overall roster of Pokmon richer, more varied, and more enjoyable to play around with, and they absolutely belong in the series.
                • While I am of the opinion that Hoenn's water routes are kind of boring, I don't think it's the fact that they're so watery that's the problem. It's that basically nothing interesting happens on almost any of them, and interesting geography that's fun to explore is kind of a rarity, too. I think the idea of having a lot more water in a region centered around the duality of land and sea is a good idea, but they should've put more variation, creativity, and life into the water areas, giving them more varied geography, wild Pokmon encounter lineups, interesting things for the player to find or do in them, all that jazz.
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                Basically...Gen IV was the last Gen worth playing. The "story driven" games that the core series has been putting out from Gen V onwards have all been absolute garbage: they do not provide a compelling story as they re-use the basic plot from Gen III repeatedly just with different Legendary Pokemon, the NPCs that the game focuses on are not properly developed as characters - in fact, they have no personality at all, and that includes in-your-face Lillie, who never really develops as a character and instead just has a complete 180 towards the end of the game in some effort to simulate development - and the overall writing (if you can even call it that) is sloppy and the sort of thing I would expect from a low budget Kemco JRPG.
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                  For the Object based Pokemon, there is also the idea that they are not really pokemon because it's just object.

                  I'm French, and i remember of a famous French Youtuber (Joueur du Grenier) who was mocking with a potential new generation who will be a fork or a door handle ^^.

                  In my opinion, i'm kinda tolerant because they are Pocket Monsters anyway. For me a Monster is not only an animal-looking beast, or a dragon, but it can be also something else.

                  And, like other pokemon, there are some kinda cool and some kinda boring.

                  I like Aegislash or Chandelure for example, but i found Klink, Klang and Klinklang bad because of a total lack of imagination.
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                    HM Moves are great. I wish we had more HMs. (Sharpen them axes folks)
                    - When I say HM, what I really mean is field moves. I'd love it if we could interact with the environment in more ways. You don't necessarily need to create more field moves, just bonus effects on existing moves would be nice, akin to Heabutt in Gen II.

                    Gen IV is when the games peaked.
                    - I want to first establish personal bias and say I haven't played XY and never played BW after maybe one gym. I also never got to the league in FR/LG because my options were "complete FireRed" or "restart Sapphire" and I always chose to play Sapphire instead. I also don't really care for any pokemon beyond Gen IV with the exception of a good amount of Gen VI.

                    However, I can't think of a game with more content and gameplay than Platinum. The region itself gets a lot of criticism but it felt very tangible. Running through the marshes and getting lodged in the mud, Running through the snow and getting lodged... you get the idea but it emphasised interaction. The underground is somewhat forgettable yet I spent insane amounts of time making bases and running around with my friend, setting traps, essentially playing capture the flag. Not to mention that it spanned the entire region and gave you access to unlimited stones and fossils through an actually enjoyable minigame. Gen IV contains what made Emerald great (contests, battle frontier - don't get me started on the postgame) and offered new features that lets it hold it's own. The main quest is forgettable but the overall story was pretty good. The whole distortation-world Giratina arc was full of mystery and suspense. The side-quests were also intriguing and plentiful.

                    Then we got following Pokmon in HGSS. I think the only thing missing from Gen IV for me is Dive... Because I love HMs :laugh-squinted:

                    I honestly gave up listing my unpopular opinions because I never realised how much I actually enjoyed Platinum until I started writing that paragraph.
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                      I really hope after the Let's Go games we will never see Gen I Pokmon ever again. I've been seeing them for the last 20 years, and strongly believe their time has long passed and they should fade into obscurity.

                      (well, except if the player wants to complete the Dex and transfers Pokmon from previous gens to that effect, that is)
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                        The Dragon typing isn't all that special and it's main advantage is that the creators give a lot of Pokémon ridiculously high stats compared to other types. And Garchomp is such a 'whatever' design.
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                          The sevii isles looks like beta content, they didn't even bother to name each island
                          This is such a minor nitpick to go back to, but the islands actually do have individual names aside from numbers! They're not actually included on this page, but each island's non-numerical name is listed on its individual page, and can be seen in-game by reading the little area introduction sign for each island!
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                          This is such a minor nitpick to go back to, but the islands actually do have individual names aside from numbers! They're not actually included on this page, but each island's non-numerical name is listed on its individual page, and can be seen in-game by reading the little area introduction sign for each island!
                          Thank you, for the correction. It has been a long time since I played so I appreciate you drawing my attention to what I had forgotten. I'll strike that out from my older post.
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                          Old September 15th, 2018 (5:30 AM). Edited September 15th, 2018 by strangerhypno.
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                            Now here's a really unpopular opinion, GF is a company that can treat their fans like dirt, put in low effort into their games with little ingenuity and still make a bunch of money. They're that popular now and have stumbled onto a gold mine. Remember when they thought GSC would be the last games and so put in a lot of effort into it?
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                              I think Generation VI was slightly better than VII. I know VII is meant to be more 'advanced' but my reasons are for what they removed rather than what was added. For example

                              -No PSS (was imo a much better method for online communication)

                              -No National Dex (really GF?)

                              -No more free fishing

                              -No D-pad movement controls (sacrificed for Ride Pokémon I know but was still nice to have the option)

                              -No more sitting down. A minor touch but I don't understand why this was removed in gen VII.
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