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Hope everyone's having a good afternoon!

Things are probably going to be slow moving with Throwback for the foreseeable future. Most of my free time is gonna be taken up by other things now that football is back. I'll make sure to make some time here and there for the hack, though!

Before I leave for the weekend, I thought I'd leave a teaser image for what I've been working on as of late. Stay safe, everyone!


Edit: Looks like I might have free time on Sundays after all. Finishing this tool is my current priority for Throwback.

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That's correct. Throwback doesn't have the P/S/S split in it in order to retain compatibility with the official games.

Having said that, you can apply the patch(es) for it separately on top of Throwback if you wish. If I get that tool fully functional, I might even include a separate option for things like it in a new tab!
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That's correct. Throwback doesn't have the P/S/S split in it in order to retain compatibility with the official games.

Having said that, you can apply the patch(es) for it separately on top of Throwback if you wish. If I get that tool fully functional, I might even include a separate option for things like it in a new tab!
Where I can found a patch for P/S/S? i tried to find one without results :'(
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Where I can found a patch for P/S/S? i tried to find one without results :'(
Hey, If you want a PSS patch, I make one! You can download from https://www.pokecommunity.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=88890&d=1566777067

And in my thread I have the information of the patch. You can use in this hack

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Hey, If you want a PSS patch, I make one! You can download from https://www.pokecommunity.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=88890&d=1566777067

And in my thread I have the information of the patch. You can use in this hack
Your patch inserts new data (presumably for the Physical/Special/Status art symbols) at the start of free space (roughly 0x71A240). I use that for the GB Sounds in Throwback, so it'll be incompatible with my hack.

Aijen, look at the links I provided for you. The very top of the OP of the first link will point you to Doesnt's P/S/S patch.
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Your patch inserts new data (presumably for the Physical/Special/Status art symbols) at the start of free space (roughly 0x71A240). I use that for the GB Sounds in Throwback, so it'll be incompatible with my hack.

Aijen, look at the links I provided for you. The very top of the OP of the first link will point you to Doesnt's P/S/S patch.
Okey, so if i download your patch just need install it and its all? 🤔 without edit every single move right? 🤔 Just apply and enjoy?

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I apply a path the add the splu and the icons, so need apply your patch or not? 🤔 Im confused...
Which patch did you apply to get the icons? That'll determine if you've gotten all you need.

If you only apply Doesnt's P/S/S split patch, the system will be implemented. However, since it doesn't change the unused bytes of any of the existing moves, every move will be treated as a Physical move and thus be calculated by the Physical Attack stat. The second patch I linked you to will change all moves to their proper distinction (Physical, Special, or Status) and have their power calculated as they should in later games.

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https://www.mediafire.com/file/m2q5vmmm564iu6k/PhysicalSpecial_Split.ips/file

this one from Teh Blazer...
That wasn't the patch I told you to apply, but it seems like it'll work fine with Throwback. It also seems to have all of the byte edits to make the moves the right attribute.

You shouldn't need to apply any other patch. Have at it!

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hey, does this hack work on standard gba hardware/vc inject on hacked 3ds, or emulator only?
SevenChurches is right. Throwback works on actual hardware. I've personally tested it with a VC inject.

The one issue will be with evolving Eevee via happiness. Since the game uses a system-based RTC instead of one you set in the game, it won't be able to tell what time of day it is. I believe this means Eevee will always evolve into Espeon, making Umbreon unobtainable on actual hardware. I'd like to replace the typical RTC implementation with one similar to that in R/S/E. Not sure if that's been done before in FR/LG.
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Hey,

Just FYI:
I ordered your RomHack from a chinese clone card supplier. As most of them today use batteryless saving, I was able to dump an IPS patch with this.

If you're like me and want to use the game on a real (repro) cartridge you have 2 options:

1. Use this [1] batteryless patch - which may or may not work with you cartridge type. Please be aware: Savegame injection and dumping is a bit tricky with this, as you need to find out the exact address on your ROM. The savedata is located at offset 0x780000, so you just need to extract it or inject it at this position of the ROM file.

2. Use my patching tool from [2] to patch the ROM after applying the IPS patch(es) from RichterSnipes. It will patch your ROM to use 1MBit of SRAM, so you are able to save properly with supported repro cartridges.

Note: Either way the game is not working in an emulator, as the patches use repro cartridge specific calls to addresses that an emulator can not do.


[1]
[2]

Unfortunately I'm not yet able to post links -.- If you want to get hands on the patch / tool just drop me a PM.

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Wait, are you saying that a Chinese site is offering my ROM hack for sale on a repro cart? Oh boy...

I feel I need to disclose this information for my own legal protection. Pokémon Throwback is not supposed to be for sale, and I'm not working with anyone to have the hack distributed physically for profit. If you are purchasing the hack from anywhere, you are getting scammed. Even if it's something only China offers and nowhere else. In fact, that makes it so you can't be assured that it'll work as intended. I'm not going to bother trying to diagnose any problems with this "release" of the game.
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Wait, are you saying that a Chinese site is offering my ROM hack for sale on a repro cart? Oh boy...
Yes and no - they sell cartridges with custom Romhacks, so I provided them with the IPS and they sent me the cartridge.

They are not offering it directly. The reason for me was to get it on a cartridge. I like playing Romhacks on official hardware and even though I have a Flashcards, I like having a physical cartridge.

That’s also the reason why I wanted to offer the IPS here - AFAIK there are many people like me who buy cheap repros for their own use and re-flash it with tools like the BennVenn Joey or the gbxcart.

Also I guess, those people more or less know, that there is never any official support - neither by the supplier of the cartridges nor by the ROM maintainers😉

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Yes and no - they sell cartridges with custom Romhacks, so I provided them with the IPS and they sent me the cartridge.

They are not offering it directly. The reason for me was to get it on a cartridge. I like playing Romhacks on official hardware and even though I have a Flashcards, I like having a physical cartridge.

That’s also the reason why I wanted to offer the IPS here - AFAIK there are many people like me who buy cheap repros for their own use and re-flash it with tools like the BennVenn Joey or the gbxcart.

Also I guess, those people more or less know, that there is never any official support - neither by the supplier of the cartridges nor by the ROM maintainers😉
You provide the patch to them? That's... an interesting service, to say the least. I can understand the appeal of getting a cartridge/disc version of a game hack. For something that aims to be customizable like Throwback, though, there's a good chance that you'll want to change the enabled features for the hack at some point. Then you'd have to go through the process of providing them another customized IPS patch and have to pay them again to have a new cartridge sent your way to play your updated/changed version of the hack. Nevermind the problems with battery save compatibility.

Either way, I still don't recommend it. I imagine it'd still be full of legal troubles if this was handled anywhere else besides China, which has such a non-caring attitude about copyright law in general.
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is pinsir in his usual spots in the safari zone, or somewhere else? ive hit 10+ scythers at this point without seeing a single pinsir

also, after a pokemon evolves the blue/red nature stat highlighters on their summary page change back to black. this practically non-issue is the only thing ive found so far that isnt spot on, im having a blast and this is the exact way i wanted to play fire red. thanks for making this
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You provide the patch to them? That's... an interesting service, to say the least. I can understand the appeal of getting a cartridge/disc version of a game hack. For something that aims to be customizable like Throwback, though, there's a good chance that you'll want to change the enabled features for the hack at some point. Then you'd have to go through the process of providing them another customized IPS patch and have to pay them again to have a new cartridge sent your way to play your updated/changed version of the hack. Nevermind the problems with battery save compatibility.
That’s the reason I posted😉 If you have a cartridge and want to update to the latest version or even do a different patch set you can use one of the options to prepare the ROM for flashing it back to the cartridge.
Of course you be flashing hardware like the gbxcart or the Joey for this.

Option one is an IPS patch that replaces the save routine to store the savegame on the ROM chip. This works for all recent versions you posted.

Option two patches the bank switching to be compliant with the SRAM chips that have 1MBit. Of course one needs to fit a battery to make use of this SRAM chip. This is a more generic approach that is designed to work with all ROMs that use 1MBit flash!
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Hey guys, im having a problem, please i need help..

I play this rom thru RG300 retrogame, works fine on REGBA emulator, i play lots of hack roms, but in special, this hack bugs my emulator, i tested in my phone thru myboy, worked fine, i think its the ''hight definition cries''.

The bug is, if i stay in grass hunting for a pokemon, after 3 or 4 minutes, the sound glitch and then mute everything, sometimes the game continues, but sometimes it crash.

I need a help to test it, but i dont know how to patch it, wihout the HD cries and the new outfits. (there are so many patches, i tried to use the readme file, but its very confusing)

someone can tell me the order? (OBS: no HD cries and new outfits) the rest is ok.

Please guys help me, i loved this hack rom.

EDIT::::::::::::: I tried everything patch by patch, something in the patches bugs the rom... cause in the original rom this bug doesnt happen, really i dont know what to do :(
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