PokéCommunity Daily: Alolan Mix-Up: Submit a movepool for Alolan Butterfree!

Dark or Ghost vampire Butterfree sounds amazing. Bug/Ghost isn't that out of the left field either, because it learns Shadow Ball, Ominous Wind, and Nightmare. Dark maybe fits the theme better.

Bug/Grass is a possibility since it learns all those powder status moves.

wolf said:

Dark or Ghost vampire Butterfree sounds amazing. Bug/Ghost isn't that out of the left field either, because it learns Shadow Ball, Ominous Wind, and Nightmare. Dark maybe fits the theme better.

Bug/Grass is a possibility since it learns all those powder status moves.

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We can change its movepool anyway. xD

Well I would love a bug/rock. Just that it will need a major overhaul in its movepool.

I voted for Bug/Dark and Bug/Psychic! I think both are very interesting options and have a ton of potential.

Bug/Dark it is!

So what kind of abilities should it have? Remember submissions should include the same number of abilities a normal butterfree could have (2 including the HA).

Maybe an original ability that applies Leech Life effects to every contact move. "Life Drain"? If we go down the route of making a vampire Butterfree, it's doable with stats such as these: 50 HP / 135 Atk / 50 Def / 5 SAtk / 50 SDef / 105 Spe. Could move 5 or 10 more stats to SAtk from something else to be fairer and more in line with what they did to Mega Beedrill.

I like wolf's ability suggestion but maybe name is Soul Sap

wolf said:

Maybe an original ability that applies Leech Life effects to every contact move. "Life Drain"? If we go down the route of making a vampire Butterfree, it's doable with stats such as these: 50 HP / 135 Atk / 50 Def / 5 SAtk / 50 SDef / 105 Spe. Could move 5 or 10 more stats to SAtk from something else to be fairer and more in line with what they did to Mega Beedrill.

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What about the other ability?

So we didn't actually get enough ability suggestions so I'm going to throw in Infiltrator for a combination of

Infiltrator/Soul Sap

Infiltrator is pretty cool! I was thinking that as well for a 2nd ability. I do wonder how strong we should make Soul Sap(Spirit Sap?). Would it be 50% as well, stacking with Leech Life for 75% healing? What about 20% healing on all contact moves?

20% on all contact moves would work, with Leech Life then getting 70% healing (op?)

I'm also going to suggest Adaptability because Mega Beedrill

Christos said:

20% on all contact moves would work, with Leech Life then getting 70% healing (op?)

I'm also going to suggest Adaptability because Mega Beedrill

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Depends what it hits. I don't think it's that bad.

Adaptability with? Remember this isn't a Mega.

Infiltrator is cool, but Dry Skin also makes sense since harsh sunlight is fatal to vampires.

Oooh I like Dry Skin too!

gimmepie said:

Adaptability with? Remember this isn't a Mega.

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I suggested that in addition to the Soul Sap ability.

It could have 2 main abilities and then a HA. Soul Sap and Infiltrator/Adaptability and maybe Dry Skin as a HA.

Okay, so since we ended up going over. I'm going to run the poll whilst we discuss stat distribution. So the poll for abilities is going up now. As soon as someone gets rid of the old poll for me.

When discussing stats, remember this isn't a Mega Pokemon, it's an Alolan form. You can redistribute Butterfree's stats, but you can't change its BST.

Keeping in mind Soul Sap causing Alolan-Butterfree to recover 20% of the damage it does when it makes contact, a physical set makes the most sense stat-wise imo.

HP: 60
Atk: 95
Def: 50
SpA: 20
SpD: 70
Spe: 100

I figure we'll probably give it something like Hone Claws or Swords Dance in the next section since Quiver Dance will be useless. The defenses here are still pitiful, but I think that's an important balancing factor given that Soul Sap Leech Life recovers 70% of the damage it deals, which is a lot if its got an OHKO or 2HKO. +2 Alolan Butterfree would be a nightmare for a lot of things to switch into, including M-Venu, Tapu Lele, Tapu Bulu, Greninja and Alolan Marowak.

Worth noting that with Dry Skin, it'd be a brilliant check for Ash-Greninja.

I like Pie's set tbh. It's not great at first glance, but if Butterfree is given a boosting move and good STAB, it will hit pretty hard and unlike a mega, can hold Life Orb or Choice Band.

Choice Specs said:

I like Pie's set tbh. It's not great at first glance, but if Butterfree is given a boosting move and good STAB, it will hit pretty hard and unlike a mega, can hold Life Orb or Choice Band.

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Life Orb would be a great item for it with Soul Sap tbh.

gimmepie said:

Life Orb would be a great item for it with Soul Sap tbh.

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That would be OP though as you can heal off the Life Orb recoil with your moves. So scary.