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Old October 12th, 2011 (6:40 PM).
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This club in particular is the reason I brought up the method of changing thread OPs to Alternative. :] So glad this is working out just how I planned it would~ And now I'm on the member's list here! Mwhahahaha...
I'm very glad you did, you are quite a smart man! I've been angsting for the power to update the members list for ages, but I had no idea how many people had been left behind!

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But no, I've never really cross-dressed or even went as far as painting my nails, or anything of the sort.
I'm not sure if this counts as a feminine thing, but you've reminded me that I painted my nails once! It was for a Halloween party in 2009 where I went as a goth!

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People always ask me what the thing on my lip is; the idea was that I was nomming on a crucifix :P
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Old October 12th, 2011 (7:09 PM).
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Work that goth look, girl.
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Old October 12th, 2011 (7:23 PM).
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It's fine to be a little effeminate every now and then, but to a certain extent, I'm gay because I like the male sex aaaaaand the male gender. If the male gender was blurred, Larry wouldn't have as much fun.
Aaaah, that makes me kinda think more about what I posted.. XD; I thought Pachy meant our own gender lines, and not what we're attracted to. Since I can only mentally crush on guys, it doesn't matter to me where they are on the gender spectrum. With girls, I tend to be more into girls who are more tomboyish in looks or personality, rather than girly girls. Not that I can't fall for girly girls, though. =u=


Hahahaha, Raichu, that picture is pretty cool actually. xD
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Old October 12th, 2011 (7:31 PM).
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I feel I should post here more. ._.

So yeah, I don't tend to do anything that would be considered effeminate. At least, a sfar as other people have told me. XD Not many people know I am gay, but everyone who does was shocked (except that one aunt who can like, read my mind, but she's and exception XD). So none of my interests and activities give off any vibe of me being gay. XD

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I'm not sure if this counts as a feminine thing, but you've reminded me that I painted my nails once! It was for a Halloween party in 2009 where I went as a goth!

Spoiler:

People always ask me what the thing on my lip is; the idea was that I was nomming on a crucifix :P
Oh I forgot, i did that for Halloween once as well. XD Though, my mom had to force me, so that doesn't really count, does it? XD
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Old October 12th, 2011 (7:45 PM).
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Yeah, you know that creepy dude who watches you play football... yeah, that's me. What's up? Wanna hook up later? Call me!
Sure, what's your number? I'm free all week.
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Old October 12th, 2011 (9:19 PM). Edited October 12th, 2011 by Melody.
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    I'm very glad you did, you are quite a smart man! I've been angsting for the power to update the members list for ages, but I had no idea how many people had been left behind!



    I'm not sure if this counts as a feminine thing, but you've reminded me that I painted my nails once! It was for a Halloween party in 2009 where I went as a goth!

    Spoiler:

    People always ask me what the thing on my lip is; the idea was that I was nomming on a crucifix :P
    Well, technically Halloween doesn't count. You could dress in full on drag, and/or crossdress just fine and people wouldn't care. ;)

    You may want to skip the first 50 seconds...he starts off with something a bit tangental.

    Totally worth watching.
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    Old October 12th, 2011 (9:47 PM).
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      Do you sometimes enjoy doing/wearing things that folks of the opposite gender typically do? By this I don't mean full out cross dressing, I just mean crossing the gender line for things that you like.

      Why do you do it? (if applicable and you feel like answering it)
      I paint my nails every so often; it was originally for the purpose of reminding myself not to chew my nails, but I grew into enjoying it. I just started to find it fun to do, I still don't get it.
      And, along with a few less mentionable things, I have a thing for cross-dressing, though it's mostly just skirts or dresses. I love loose clothing (as can be seen by the majority of my clothing consisting of cargo pants and baggy shirts), and I just really like the design of some women's clothes that you can't find in the mens' section, so an A-line or tiered skirt/dress works well within in my comfort zone.

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      What do you think of "Gender lines/roles"? Would you rather they go away, or do you not mind them so much?
      I really don't mind "gender roles" as some things are definitely better left to a certain sex (such as heavy lifting for the male end of the spectrum since they generally have a stronger-built physique, and mothering for the female end for pretty obvious reasons), though there are definitely many one-sided "roles" that should work unisexually like a love of video games or sports. (My mother and her friends have proven the sports part on multiple occasions, in which they're just as rowdy as men.)

      ~~~~~

      @-ty- Yours is definitely the better picture.
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      Old October 13th, 2011 (7:06 AM).
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      Well, technically Halloween doesn't count. You could dress in full on drag, and/or crossdress just fine and people wouldn't care. ;)

      You may want to skip the first 50 seconds...he starts off with something a bit tangental.

      Totally worth watching.
      Lol on the first part. There's actually another animal (some sort of sea-dwelling mollusc) who does the same stabbing thing, only they're hermaphroditic so it's double the fun.

      @Ty: I like your picture better. Your picture ftw. xD
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      Old October 13th, 2011 (9:37 AM).
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      Re: gender roles: I'm okay with things (activities, fashions, etc.) being gendered, but, you know, most aspects of gender are artificial (I say most because I can't be certain there aren't some genetic factors) so I'm not okay with the assumption of a person's biological sex determining their gender. I'd love it if people were truly free to be feminine or masculine or both or whatever. Ain't nothin' wrong with having categories and divisions in our interests and behaviors, but pushing them on people makes me very upset like you have no idea.

      Ty, I'm glad you've got your priorities straight. Oh I'm so punny. I really really hope you keep your head up and don't fall into the ex-boyfriend spiral. A friend of mine keeps trying to stop falling for his awful, manipulative ex, but has a lot of trouble.

      And I loved that picture from the facebook link so much I have to post it here.

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      Old October 13th, 2011 (9:51 AM).
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      And I loved that picture from the facebook link so much I have to post it here.

      I have seen that picture a million times, and I laugh every time I see it. XD

      ALSO Pachy, that video was awesome. ^__^
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      Old October 13th, 2011 (7:58 PM).
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      Ha! I've seen that picture gay marriage all over the place all over the place! Here's another cool image that Christians who bash gays have a tendency to forget:


      Oh, and here's another Facebook page to report. Don't post in it, though; that supposedly makes it harder to remove. It's the Westboro Baptist Church :\
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      Old October 13th, 2011 (9:42 PM).
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      Hahahaha.. >__> Love that sign and that billboard.

      As for those facebook pages, I get wanting to find them to report 'em, though I wouldn't be someone who would willingly look for them. It would just end up pissing me off.
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      Old October 13th, 2011 (10:31 PM).
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        Thanks everyone, lol. Since everyone has been so supportive, I have decided to work as a webcam model as well; anyone want a private show? ...Btw, I am totally being sarcastic, haha. I would not be able to live with myself!!!

        The "love thy neighbor" passage doesn't get through to some Christians because of their parents, family, and church interpreting the bible for them, and ingraining that interpretation into their sense of morality - basically societal brainwashing!

        Btw...the WBC seems to only rally LGBT and heterosexual allies, because the other side does not want to be associated with their defamatory remarks about veterans/soldiers. So they are really just helping gay people garner more support and more of a voice. :p
        I reported the page ;)
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        Old October 14th, 2011 (7:49 AM).
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        I feel the need to join in all this picture sharing.



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        Old October 14th, 2011 (9:59 AM). Edited October 14th, 2011 by Esper.
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        That "love thy neighbor" line can easily be gotten around with "love the sinner; hate the sin."

        In other news, a challenge in California by haters activists to remove a new law which would require schools include queer people in their teaching of history failed to get enough signatures to even be put up on the ballot. :p


        Edit: also thought I'd throw in this little article that debunks some of the myths around gender differences since we were just talking about that in previous pages. Language warning though, so don't click if that's too much for you.
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        Old October 14th, 2011 (11:23 AM).
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          Hey Ty, you're an extremely handsome guy! Though I hope you don't take what I have to say next harshly but just how I (personally) think you could've handled it better for next time. You're free to disagree.
          I know you were just fooling around to one-up your ex and show that he has nothing on you anymore.. but personally I don't think you should've lowered yourself to taking undie-shots and making them public with us. It may not be a big deal to you because you're not actually showing anything and you probably don't feel uncomfortable doing so, but I think it would've been classier if you just skipped it altogether. Personally I think a guy comes off as being more handsome with a nice outfit and a great smile. BUT what's done is done and I think it's good, no AMAZING, that you've moved on to find someone who's more intimate and who is more deserving of your love.
          Don't give up on trying to find the right guy for you, hun :3 *Blows kisses* <3
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          Old October 14th, 2011 (11:36 AM).
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          That "love thy neighbor" line can easily be gotten around with "love the sinner; hate the sin."

          In other news, a challenge in California by haters activists to remove a new law which would require schools include queer people in their teaching of history failed to get enough signatures to even be put up on the ballot. :p


          Edit: also thought I'd throw in this little article that debunks some of the myths around gender differences since we were just talking about that in previous pages. Language warning though, so don't click if that's too much for you.
          There still is an possibility that it will get on the ballot. November 2012 is still open. In fact, Jerry Brown signed legislation that moves all ballot initiatives to November anyway.
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          Old October 14th, 2011 (2:59 PM).
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            Hey Ty, you're an extremely handsome guy! Though I hope you don't take what I have to say next harshly but just how I (personally) think you could've handled it better for next time. You're free to disagree.
            I know you were just fooling around to one-up your ex and show that he has nothing on you anymore.. but personally I don't think you should've lowered yourself to taking undie-shots and making them public with us. It may not be a big deal to you because you're not actually showing anything and you probably don't feel uncomfortable doing so, but I think it would've been classier if you just skipped it altogether. Personally I think a guy comes off as being more handsome with a nice outfit and a great smile. BUT what's done is done and I think it's good, no AMAZING, that you've moved on to find someone who's more intimate and who is more deserving of your love.
            Don't give up on trying to find the right guy for you, hun :3 *Blows kisses* <3
            Yeah, I know it was a bit too much. Oh, those are basketball shorts by the way; I am comfortable with wear just those since I am so used to scrimmaging shirts v. skins. But yes, I tend to wear sweaters/khakis/button-ups/polos/cardigans among other preppy and "square" clothing most of the time, lmao.

            thanks, I hope so as well! I am going to be extremely selective next time. *catches kisses*
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            Old October 14th, 2011 (3:06 PM). Edited October 14th, 2011 by Shining Raichu.
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            I disagree, I think any excuse for a man to take pictures in his underwear is a good enough one for me! :P

            Also, is it wrong that I watched that video and all I could think about was how disappointed I was that that guy wasn't gay?
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            Old October 14th, 2011 (3:45 PM).
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            Hey, guys. Here's a page that dispels just about every stereotype about homosexuals. http://gaylife.about.com/od/amiga1/a/gaymyths.htm
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            Old October 14th, 2011 (4:29 PM).
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            This is a very good link! Personally my favourite part is this:

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            Studies have shown that being gay is not directly related to one's environment. For instance, many mothers in retrospect regret being too close to their sons, thinking that is what "made" them gay. However, their relationship with their child had little to do with them being gay. Homosexuals are born, not made. Research continues in an effort to find the source of homosexuality, but blaming oneself or environment is not the answer.
            I've seen so many parents blame themselves for their kids being gay. Not only is this annoying in the sense that it could not possibly be true, but also in the sense that if they blame themselves, they are in essence implying that their child being gay is a situation that requires blame. That has always bothered me.
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            Old October 14th, 2011 (4:55 PM).
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            I've seen so many parents blame themselves for their kids being gay. Not only is this annoying in the sense that it could not possibly be true, but also in the sense that if they blame themselves, they are in essence implying that their child being gay is a situation that requires blame. That has always bothered me.
            Well said! People who don't think gays should adopt often say "The kids will turn gay!" There are two things wrong with that: 1. People are born with their sexual orientation. 2. Even if it did make them gay, what's wrong with that? NOTHING!
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            Old October 14th, 2011 (5:48 PM).
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            Also, is it wrong that I watched that video and all I could think about was how disappointed I was that that guy wasn't gay?
            Actually, me too. xD

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            Well said! People who don't think gays should adopt often say "The kids will turn gay!" There are two things wrong with that: 1. People are born with their sexual orientation. 2. Even if it did make them gay, what's wrong with that? NOTHING!
            My favourite argument against this is "oh yeah, because straight parents always have straight kids, right?!"
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            Old October 14th, 2011 (8:51 PM).
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            I've seen so many parents blame themselves for their kids being gay. Not only is this annoying in the sense that it could not possibly be true, but also in the sense that if they blame themselves, they are in essence implying that their child being gay is a situation that requires blame. That has always bothered me.
            My mom said this exact thing to me when I told her, actually. "It's my fault for raising you wrong."


            Offtopic:
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            Off topic, but I actually just made a video game, that is quite "Fruity", so I thought I'd post it here.
            http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/581553
            (Yes that was a horrible joke, someone slap me.)
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            Old October 15th, 2011 (2:40 AM). Edited October 15th, 2011 by Melody.
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              Well don't leave the Bis out of the fun...there are myths about us too! x3

              http://gaylife.about.com/od/bisexual/a/biman.htm

              But yeah...it's totally wrong for blame to be placed when someone comes out. It doesn't matter if they were born that way or not...more often than not, they didn't choose to be that way. I certainly didn't choose to be Bi on a whim. I spent most of my adolescence using sheer force of will to FORCE myself to lean straight. I still catch myself doing it and end up having to slap myself for it...though I don't get angry for stopping myself if I know the person is straight.

              I DO understand a phobic person's feelings, to a certain degree, because I spent so much time denying what I was. But phobia has to stop at a certain point, and prejudice begins. I've always reassured people who took me as gay that "No, I'm not gay, I'm bi...and I'm not the kind who hits on straight people." I don't even hit on people I don't know well! I'm far too shy anyway. xD
              I'm not the type who hangs out anywhere social, just to pick up partners. I'd rather that I get to know someone naturally, by legitimately crossing paths with them...not because I camped out in their favorite bar just so I could drum up an excuse to talk to them and waste my cheesy, socially awkward pickup lines on someone who would likely turn out straight anyway. XD

              My problem lies in the fact that I live, currently, in a tiny central Texas town where I go to college. Now I know I might have a little less of a tough time in my hometown with it, because it's bigger, but that's not the point. The point, and therefore the real problem is that this is such a small community, is that a small community can be just as overwhelmingly accepting and accepting as they can be hostile. If more swing to hostility, it could become a problem. :<

              Of course I've already come out to a few people...but those are folks I can trust not to blab it everywhere. I don't see a need to tell someone I'm bi unless I have a crush on them or begin to see them as more than just a friend.
               

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