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Terrakion @ Choice Band
EVs: 252 Att/ 252 Speed/ 4 spD
Adamant Nature

Close Combat
Stone Edge
Earthquake
Rock Slide

juliorain said:

Terrakion @ Choice Band
EVs: 252 Att/ 252 Speed/ 4 spD
Adamant Nature

Close Combat
Stone Edge
Earthquake
Rock Slide

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This isn't a counter as Terrakion cannot switch into Hydro Pump without getting OHKOd if it hits.

Umbreon @Leftovers
Ability: Synchronise
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpD / 4 Spe
Calm Nature
- Wish
- Protect
- Toxic
- Foul Play

Umbreon can stall Lapras out until it dies from being poisoned.

Lucario @ Choice Specs
Ability: Inner Focus
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Shadow Ball
- Aura Sphere
- Flash Cannon
- Hidden Power Rock

Yep ill go gen 4 on your ass.

Blissey @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spe
Bold Nature
- Wish
- Protect
- Seismic Toss
- Toxic

Two can play at that game.

Breloom @ Toxic Orb
Ability: Poison Heal
EVs: 12 HP / 252 Atk / 244 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Substitute
- Focus Punch
- Spore
- Seed Bomb

Tapu Bulu @Choice Band
Ability: Grassy Surge
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Horn Leech
- Wood Hammer
- Superpower
- Stone Edge

Wood Hammer OHKOs and so does Superpower over 80% of the time, and Breloom is too slow to do much after an initial Seed Bomb or Sub on the switch in. It gets forced out or inevitably dies.

gimmepie said:

Tapu Bulu @Choice Band
Ability: Grassy Surge
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Horn Leech
- Wood Hammer
- Superpower
- Stone Edge

Wood Hammer OHKOs and so does Superpower over 80% of the time, and Breloom is too slow to do much after an initial Seed Bomb or Sub on the switch in. It gets forced out or inevitably dies.

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Get ready to close the drapes because DRAPION appears!



Metagross cant even counter this thing because with 252 speed evs, it outspeeds metagross should it switch in!


EDIT: Numbers don't change should I bump its att evs to 252 so the damage calcs still apply.

EDIT2: Fun fact not ever rayquaza can come into a Stone Edge! Mega ry can, of course, but it can't come in on the switch as normal!

I'd advise just posting your set as everyone else has done, so people aren't having to root around your screenies to find out what set you're running. Also, make sure to run calcs against the correct set you are countering.

My counter to your set (as far as I can determine) is:

Steelix-Mega @ Steelixite
Ability: Sand Force
EVs: 252 HP / 192 Atk / 64 SpD
Sassy Nature
IVs: 0 Spe
- Earthquake
- Gyro Ball
- Curse
- Aqua Tail

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Drapion barely makes a dent with its most powerful attack (252 Atk Drapion Hydro Vortex (175 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Steelix-Mega: 142-168 (40.1 - 47.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO)
Steelix-Mega retaliates with a OHKO (192 Atk Steelix-Mega Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Drapion: 282-332 (100.3 - 118.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO)

Kingdra @ Choice Specs
Ability: Swift Swim
EVs: 252 SpA / 252 Spe / 4 Def
Modest Nature
-Hydro Pump
-Surf
-Draco Meteor
-Ice Beam

192 Atk Steelix-Mega Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Kingdra: 159-187 (54.6 - 64.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Then outspeeds and both Hydro Pump and Surf are basically an OHKO

Azumarill @ Normalium Z
Adamant Nature
Ability: Huge Power
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
- Belly Drum
- Aqua Jet
- Play Rough
- Knock Off

Hydro Pump is the strongest option at a 3HKO, Azu can switch in and OHKO with Play Rough.

Petuuuhhh said:

Tyranitar @ Choice Band
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def
Adamant Nature
- Stone Edge
- Fire Punch
- Crunch
- Ice Punch

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Yeah I know I'm an asshole for this, but this would only apply for if it's a switch in due to KO/whirlwind/Roar or any moves that cause the target to switch out.

Nosepass @ Berry Juice
Ability: Sturdy
Level: 1
IVs: 0 Atk
- Pain Split
- Toxic
- Protect
- Endure
Pretty easy to counter, but ANNOYING AS HELL to play against.

TOKZK said:

Yeah I know I'm an asshole for this, but this would only apply for if it's a switch in due to KO/whirlwind/Roar or any moves that cause the target to switch out.

Nosepass @ Berry Juice
Ability: Sturdy
Level: 1
IVs: 0 Atk
- Pain Split
- Toxic
- Protect
- Endure
Pretty easy to counter, but ANNOYING AS HELL to play against.

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Meme starts are the best strats. However that doesn't reply to King's set which was just posted.

Kingsman said:

Azumarill @ Normalium Z
Adamant Nature
Ability: Huge Power
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
- Belly Drum
- Aqua Jet
- Play Rough
- Knock Off

Hydro Pump is the strongest option at a 3HKO, Azu can switch in and OHKO with Play Rough.

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Why uses bulu when you can run Clefable. Was tempted to send Quasire but meh. Actually unaware quagsire is technically a better set all around as it can curse off and recover any damage taken, but Electrium Z Clefable memes.

Clefable F Unaware @ Electrium Z
252 def / 252 spa / 4 hp
Bold
Wish
Protect
Moonblast
Thunderbolt

Play rough does 56% at max, and Z-Tbolt is a guaranteed OHKO. Clefable outspeeds.

TOKZK said:

Yeah I know I'm an asshole for this, but this would only apply for if it's a switch in due to KO/whirlwind/Roar or any moves that cause the target to switch out.

Nosepass @ Berry Juice
Ability: Sturdy
Level: 1
IVs: 0 Atk
- Pain Split
- Toxic
- Protect
- Endure
Pretty easy to counter, but ANNOYING AS HELL to play against.

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Are you saying yours is a counter to my set posted or....? In case you haven't read the initial post, you're to post a set which counters the one directly posted before yours. If it is to counter mine, I am certain that Knock Off removes the Berry Juice and procs Sturdy, before then just killing with any move before you can set up your win condition.

juliorain said:

Meme starts are the best strats. However that doesn't reply to King's set which was just posted.

Why uses bulu when you can run Clefable. Was tempted to send Quasire but meh. Actually unaware quagsire is technically a better set all around as it can curse off and recover any damage taken, but Electrium Z Clefable memes.

Clefable F Unaware @ Electrium Z
252 def / 252 spa / 4 hp
Bold
Wish
Protect
Moonblast
Thunderbolt

Play rough does 56% at max, and Z-Tbolt is a guaranteed OHKO. Clefable outspeeds.

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Just to make sure you check sets before posting :P, you've said your 'Fable is faster than my set, which it is not by about 40 or so Speed. Counter to yours is:

Dhelmise @ Choice Band
Adamant Nature
Ability: Steelworker
EVs: 92 HP / 252 Atk / 164 Spe
- Power Whip
- Heavy Slam
- Earthquake
- Knock Off

Dhelmise can switch into anything 'Fable throws at it and then OHKO with Heavy Slam.

Just to make sure you check sets before posting :P, you've said your 'Fable is faster than my set, which it is not by about 40 or so Speed. Counter to yours is:

Dhelmise @ Choice Band
Adamant Nature
Ability: Steelworker
EVs: 92 HP / 252 Atk / 164 Spe
- Power Whip
- Heavy Slam
- Earthquake
- Knock Off

Dhelmise can switch into anything 'Fable throws at it and then OHKO with Heavy Slam.[/QUOTE]

HRM, I guess I shouldn't have read the calc almost immediately after waking up.

Arcanine @ Shuca Berry
Jolly Nature
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
- Flare Blitz
- Wild Charge
- Extreme Speed

Rhydon

EVs: 252 HP/252 Attack/4 Special Defense
Item: Eviolite
Ability: Rock Head
Adamant Nature

-Earthquake
-Toxic
-Megahorn
-Rock Polish

It won't OHKO under Intimidate (Around two hits would knock out Arcanine with an Intimidate), but it's bulk allows it to live quite a few hits.

Venusaur-Mega @Venusaurite
Ability: Thick Fat
EVs: 248 HP / 88 Def / 156 SpD / 16 Spe
Calm Nature
-Giga Drain
-Sludge Bomb
-Synthesis
-Hidden Power Fire

252+ Atk Rhydon Earthquake vs. 248 HP / 88 Def Venusaur-Mega: 139-165 (38.2 - 45.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
0 SpA Venusaur-Mega Giga Drain vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Eviolite Rhydon: 472-564 (114 - 136.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Dodrio @ Choice Band
Jolly Nature
Ability: Early Bird
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
- Brave Bird
- Return
- Jump Kick
- Knock Off

252 Atk Choice Band Dodrio Brave Bird vs. 248 HP / 88 Def Venusaur-Mega: 408-480 (112.3 - 132.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Weavile @ Focus Sash

EVs: 252 Attack/252 Speed/4 Special Defense
Ability: Pickpocket
Adamant Nature

-Swords Dance
-Knock Off
-Low Kick
-Ice Shard

Tapu Fini @ Leftovers
Calm Nature
Ability: Misty Surge
EVs: 248 HP / 16 Def / 12 SpA / 40 SpD / 192 Spe
- Defog
- Moonblast
- Scald
- Taunt

Now this is difficult to counter... Hmm...

Tentacruel @ Expert Belt
EVs: 232 Sp Attack/252 Speed/20 Defense
Ability: Clear Body
Timid Nature

-Acid Spray
-Giga Drain
-Scald
-Reflect Type