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Old January 23rd, 2017 (10:50 PM). Edited January 23rd, 2017 by Luxray Master.
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    Hello PC deck reviewers, I am here to... get my deck reviewed. As you can tell by the title, this deck is risky but OP, and I don't want that riskyness. Anyways, here is the lineup:
    Pokemon:
    1x Phantump
    1x Trevenant(useful in the start)
    1x Jirachi(IDK why)
    2x doduo
    2x dodrio(retreat aid)
    1x charizard EX(from the red&blue box)
    1x Raquaza
    1x electrike
    1x manectric
    2x electabuzz
    2x electivire
    1x Zapados
    3x shinx
    1x luxio
    2x luxray
    Energy:
    8x psychic
    8x electric
    1x double colorless
    Trainers:
    3x potions
    1x misty's determination
    1x buffer piece
    1x interviewers questions
    1x skull fossil
    2x shauna
    1x pokemon center lady
    1x wally
    1x maintenance
    1x great ball(I should get more, I know)
    1x fighting fury belt
    1x olympia
    1x clemont

    thank you for any suggestions!
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    Old January 23rd, 2017 (11:34 PM).
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      What sets are these cards from?
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      Old January 24th, 2017 (8:33 AM).
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        The main card deck was the electric eye deck, but the other cards came from everywhere.
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        Old January 24th, 2017 (11:04 AM).
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          The main card deck was the electric eye deck, but the other cards came from everywhere.
          You can't possibly expect us to review a deck when we don't know what Trevenents etc you're running?

          http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_Trading_Card_Game_expansions

          use this list to get an idea of what sets they're from then we can help you :>
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          Old January 24th, 2017 (10:48 PM).
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            Here's the lowdown:
            rising skies:
            wally
            electrike
            Electric eye:
            Misy's determination
            shinx, luxio, and Luxray
            phantump and trevenant
            great ball
            fighting fury belt
            electabuzz and Electivire
            potions
            Platinum:
            skull fossil
            Arceus:
            manectric lvl 44
            buffer piece
            Unleashed:
            interviewer's questions
            Undaunted:
            dodrio
            Red and blue box(couldn't find it, sign is a plus with two horizantal lines):
            olympia
            clemont
            pokémon center lady
            maintenance
            jirachi
            zapidos
            dodrio and doduo(yes, these are in the same group, unlike the othe other two)
            supreme victors:
            doduo
            Phantom forces:
            shauna
            double colorless
            promo:
            charizard EX(red&blue)
            raquaza(raquaza box)
            didn't think of including energies, since they do the same thing.
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            Old January 25th, 2017 (1:55 AM). Edited January 25th, 2017 by Hands.
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              Right so it's the BreakPOINT Trev, that's something I can work with :>

              The "Red/Blue" set is called Generations.

              The problem I can already tell you with this deck is it's not focused enough. having 1-1 lines in is beyond risky, especially when a lot of those lines are easy prey. Try running fairy garden x4 and fairy energy over Doduo lines as that will give you free retreats and won't cost you any prizes.

              On the topic of energy, how do you intend to power up Zard? There are no fire energies in this deck and three for 80 on an EX is not good in this format, it's too slow. If you're running Zard you need to run either fire energies and Blacksmith or Burning Energies (or both) otherwise he's going to be knocked out before you've gotten anymore than 80 onto your opponent.

              Ditch the Great Balls and use Level, Lure, Ultra and/or Heavy, as they're guaranteed to net you a pokemon.

              Unfortunately this deck is too loose and slow to do any real damage. Whilst you're clearly considering things like heavy retreat costs which is great, you need to consider speed and structure too.

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              Pokemon: 12

              3x Phantump
              3x Trevenant

              3x Charizard EX
              2x Volcanion EX
              1x Carbink (energy keeper variety)

              Items: 21

              4 Nest Ball
              4x Level Ball
              3x Heavy Ball
              2x Max Potion
              2x Escape Rope
              2x Switch
              2x Fighting Fury Belt
              2x Float Stone
              2x Enhanced Hammer

              Supporters: 11

              3x Professor Sycamore
              3x Shauna
              2x Blacksmith
              2x Lysandre
              1x Wally

              Energy: 14

              10x Fire
              4x Burning Energy
              There's a quick list I threw together. Running this you'll have structure, an end goal and a few counters to common threats.

              3 Phantump makes him a likely pull during set up, his attack "Ascension" will allow you to evolve to Trevenant on turn 1 which would hit your opponent's basics with the extra attack cost. Lure Balls will get any of your basics out of the deck and onto the field, level balls will handle your carbink and any extra phantumps you need and heavy balls will grab Charizard EX, Volcanion EX and Trevs.

              Carbink is in the deck to protect Charizard from having his energy cards knocked off by your opponent, Burning energy are there because they do not have to be discarded like usual fire energies when using Charizard's main attack and Volcanion EX is there because of his ability Steam Up which allows you to discard a fire energy from your hand to power up your Charizard's attacks by 30 damage (you can use 1 of these per turn with each Volcanion, so if you have three on the bench, you can do three steam ups, giving Charizard a 90 damage boost) Blacksmith is in there because it grabs back 2x fire energy from your discard and attaches them to one of your fire pokemon (either Charizard or Volcanion)

              I've sorted out your retreat cost problem with the addition of switches, escape ropes and float stones. The deck should move a lot faster too thanks to the 3x Sycamore/ 3x Shauna count.
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              Old January 25th, 2017 (2:12 PM). Edited January 25th, 2017 by Luxray Master.
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                Thank you, that deck looks awesome, unfortunatly:
                1. I made the deck out of cards that I have, which hindered me greatly
                2. I don't know where to find these cards that I'm missing(though I'm guessing that they are from steam siege Gears of Fire) so if you could show me some decks needed...?
                3. If you could somehow add a luxray evolution...?
                4. The charizard that I have does a 150 damage move called Combustion Blast
                and i forgot to mntion that i 4 fire energy cards, 2 for charizard 1 for raquaza and 1 extra.
                My zapados/raquaza setup is dangerous, because of zap's ragingthunder and raquaza's ozone wall.
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                Old January 26th, 2017 (1:12 AM).
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                  Thank you, that deck looks awesome, unfortunatly:
                  1. I made the deck out of cards that I have, which hindered me greatly
                  2. I don't know where to find these cards that I'm missing(though I'm guessing that they are from steam siege Gears of Fire) so if you could show me some decks needed...?
                  3. If you could somehow add a luxray evolution...?
                  4. The charizard that I have does a 150 damage move called Combustion Blast
                  and i forgot to mntion that i 4 fire energy cards, 2 for charizard 1 for raquaza and 1 extra.
                  My zapados/raquaza setup is dangerous, because of zap's ragingthunder and raquaza's ozone wall.
                  I know that it does 150, but it needs two fire energy (that then have to be discarded) to do that and you original list had no fire energy, which is what I went off of, thus limiting you to using wing attack for 90. Even with 4, you had no way to recycle them meaning you'd only get one attack out of Zard which would not knock out 90% of the current format's noted cards. Zapdos doing 40 to one of your bench in a deck like this is suicide. I'd understand if you were running it was Machamp EX or Tauros GX or something that benefits from having damage on it, but nothing in your deck does. Honestly, I'd be ecstatic coming against anyone using raging thunder Zapdos because of it's relatively soft 120 HP and the fact it's damaging my opponent to attack me with it.

                  Don't buy decks, buy singles. It works out much cheaper. The Charizard EX is like $3-5 normally, Volcanion can be had for $4 as it's a tin promo (search Volcanion EX, the promo one is the cheap one). Carbink with Energy Keeper (It's in fates collide) is at most a dollar, Sycamores are usually 4 for $3 etc. Burning energy ( i think are in ancient origins) are usually about $1 each. If you can find a local league you'll likely find a lot of players willing to just give you half this stuff to help you out, if you were at my local league I know myself and several others would sort you out the bulk of this deck for free

                  I know it seems to be your favourite Pokemon, but Luxray really is not a very playable or decent card these days unfortunately. The only way you could run it is in a specifically tailored deck and even then you will lose most match ups
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                    thank you so much for this. I will work on finding these cards, thoug I will probably need to use Amazon, sinc I live 4 hr from the closest city with a league. And with zapados, I can have recoil fall on raquaza, and use raquaza's ozone wall to stop it, but then again, I don't know if that is allowed...
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                    Old January 26th, 2017 (10:20 AM).
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                      thank you so much for this. I will work on finding these cards, thoug I will probably need to use Amazon, sinc I live 4 hr from the closest city with a league. And with zapados, I can have recoil fall on raquaza, and use raquaza's ozone wall to stop it, but then again, I don't know if that is allowed...
                      eBay is your best bet :) Or a card seller, I can suggest some depending what country you're in

                      Actually I didn't think about using Ray to soak up the damage, you could do that sure.
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                      Old February 1st, 2017 (10:20 PM).
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                        So I hade a battle with another person(had a breakPOINT gredninja deck) and had a perfect combo:
                        unlike usual, where Jirachi is in my first, my hands were:
                        zapados, raquaza, shauna, Luxray, psychic energy, phantump,
                        used the energy on phantump, used acention, next card was an electric energy, put it on zap, then used Shauna and got Interviewers questions, fighting fury belt, wally, electabuzz, and doduo. Using interviewers questions, I snagged a double colorless, a psychic energy, and an electric energy. I put the double on trevenant and OHKOed my opponent. My prize card was the other shauna, and my next card was another energy, so I used wally for dodrio, switched trevenant for zap, placed the energy and used the raging thunder, negated damage with raquaza, and with the fighting fury belt OHKOed the other five pokémon with 130 damage. Just an example of the powerfulness but also riskyness of my current deck, since I had no backup if Trevenant was KOed without messing up the plan.
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                        Old February 3rd, 2017 (12:58 AM).
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                          So I hade a battle with another person(had a breakPOINT gredninja deck) and had a perfect combo:
                          unlike usual, where Jirachi is in my first, my hands were:
                          zapados, raquaza, shauna, Luxray, psychic energy, phantump,
                          used the energy on phantump, used acention, next card was an electric energy, put it on zap, then used Shauna and got Interviewers questions, fighting fury belt, wally, electabuzz, and doduo. Using interviewers questions, I snagged a double colorless, a psychic energy, and an electric energy. I put the double on trevenant and OHKOed my opponent. My prize card was the other shauna, and my next card was another energy, so I used wally for dodrio, switched trevenant for zap, placed the energy and used the raging thunder, negated damage with raquaza, and with the fighting fury belt OHKOed the other five pokémon with 130 damage. Just an example of the powerfulness but also riskyness of my current deck, since I had no backup if Trevenant was KOed without messing up the plan.
                          Nice work :) Though this kinda touches up on why I condensed the list so much, like you say, it's risky. If just one or two cards are prized it could kill your whole run.
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