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I wasn't gonna bother with this with the day I was having but I think it's paramount I discredit this false narrative you're spinning really for good here.

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I felt like there was no point in replying to Mr. Echo, but here goes. Since we have established laws (what a novel concept) against what was genocide (we're agreeing), no, the new immigrants cannot do that.
I did not ask if they legally could. I asked if it would be ok with you if they did. The Natives had laws and customs too. I was highlighting the massive flaw in your morality over the subject.

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Also, the adjective "eugenic" and the noun "eugenics" have different meanings.
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/eugenic?s=t

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/eugenics?s=t

One is the practice and one is the theory. Most dictionaries (Oxford, Cambridge, Merriam-Webster etc) do not distinguish them as separate terms to begin with. (Oxford simply refers to Eugenic as the act of Eugenics)

So no, you're wrong here.

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Your description of the noun is accurate.
Yes because unlike you I've researched the theory.

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However, abortion tends to be eugenic in nature.
No it doesn't. Abortions of deformed fetuses or fetuses that will be heavily disabled could be considered eugenic, abortions for financial or personal reasons, health risks to the mother, as a result of rape or other mitigating personal reasons have absolutely nothing to do with eugenics and cannot be considered eugenic.

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You see, this is something that appalls even Fox News and the pro-life crowd; no echo chamber here. Research the Donohue–Levitt hypothesis.
You make it sound like it's hard to appall the reactionaries at Fox.

The Donohue-Levitt hypothesis relates mostly to crime trends falling in the post Wade v Roe years. That doesn't at all support the belief that Abortion is a form of state sponsored eugenics.

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Last but not least, I never said that abortion hampers "white growth." It hampers growth. Hence, we do not have a massive population problem like other countries. We're not China; we might never need a one-child policy.
"P.S. I meant that "rampant immigration" replaces, or perhaps exceeds, the losses of abortion"

"while foreigners inundate our lands."

"Since then, a staggering 58 million "American" fetuses"

"This is demographic replacement"

It's pretty clear what you meant with these statements. By demographic replacement you had to be talking about whites because they're the only group that has slipped behind in their 'market share' of the ethnic pie in America. Black/Mixed race Americans have seen consistent and continuing rises in their number. At best you were showing you've done as little research into the growth of minority groups as you have in eugenics and white growth rates, at worse I was absolutely correct about your narrative. Neither looks great. We already know that your claims about stagnating population growth are false, and we already know that the immigration claim doesn't hold up either. I don't think it really matters if you were pushing the white genocide myth or were just completely wrong with your claims due to ignorance on the matter. Either way your argument holds no water in the real world.
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Minorities are more likely to get abortions than whites, so I highly doubt abortion is causing any demographic shift against whites, and if it is, it has little impact. Abortion is not causing any white genocide.

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/09/abortions-racial-gap/380251/
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Minorities are more likely to get abortions than whites, so I highly doubt abortion is causing any demographic shift against whites, and if it is, it has little impact. Abortion is not causing any white genocide.

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/09/abortions-racial-gap/380251/
What is reading comprehension?

I never mentioned "white genocide," and thus abortion was never connected to it. Also, while I did mention demographic replacement, I made it clear that immigrants are doing the replacing. (Actually, minorities being likelier than whites to get abortions contributed to the Donohue–Levitt hypothesis.)
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What is reading comprehension?

I never mentioned "white genocide," and thus abortion was never connected to it. Also, while I did mention demographic replacement, I made it clear that immigrants are doing the replacing. (Actually, minorities being likelier than whites to get abortions contributed to the Donohue–Levitt hypothesis.)
Okay, remove the phrase "white genocide" from my post. I mentioned "white genocide" because the topic is very similar to this.

The point was that abortion isn't causing any demographic shifts against whites. If immigrants - non-white immigrants - are replacing whites and the discussion is talking about abortions, there is a strong implication. My post merely provided the stats that back up Hands's argument.
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