The Rainbow Connection [LGBTS Club]

jbthedelirious said:

I'd like to join,please.

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Welcome, JB! I'll add your name to the list now :) - tell us a bit about yourself! Are you gay, bi, trans, supporter, other?

Alec Empire said:

I'm not saying that I agree with anything that the Pope has to say(most of it's completely unimportant), but he is the leader of the world's most widespread religion, so he is a pretty important guy. Important people are usually listened to, for the better or worse.

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I really don't think he is to be honest - and that's not just my anti-theism talking. Even if you disregard the fact that more and more people are turning away from religion by the day, the Pope's role has been reduced more and more over the years to the point where he's kind of just like a monarch. What does he actually do all day? I can't imagine him actually doing anything to aid the running of the religion. He's just a figurehead; the latest in a long list of old white men to put on the Colonel Sanders costume.

Scarf said:

Hey, here's more sobering news. I know, I know. I'd like to bring up good news, but this one in particular got me really... well, you'll see.

[here is the full article]

Yeah. What a great thing we did in Iraq.

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Well I'm not usually a proponent of violence to solve issues, but hey... since our troops are already over there, why not spread some more "Western influence" from their shotguns? I mean, when in Rome, right?

Since we're kinda on the topic of separation of church and state and all that, I just thought I would share this article I found on yahoo today . That's one of the many reasons I'm scared of some extremist getting into office. I'm glad I don't go to public school anymore ._.

Shining Raichu said:

I really don't think he is to be honest - and that's not just my anti-theism talking. Even if you disregard the fact that more and more people are turning away from religion by the day, the Pope's role has been reduced more and more over the years to the point where he's kind of just like a monarch. What does he actually do all day? I can't imagine him actually doing anything to aid the running of the religion. He's just a figurehead; the latest in a long list of old white men to put on the Colonel Sanders costume.

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True, but he will still be listened to and cared for by at least some people. Yeah, he may have little power, but he's kind of like the kind and Queen of England: No power, but they are listened to, nonetheless.

I think that the "one nation, under god" is not really worth losing sleep over. If you don't want to recite that section of the pledge, then you have the choice to not recite it. If you want to recite that section of the pledge, then you should have the choice to recite it. There are other issues that deserve more attention.

Gay Marriage and abortion should be looked at as secular issues. The Supreme Court has developed several secular tests that determine the Constitutionality of a law, although these "tests" are often very subjective in their application.

Gay Marriage does not negatively affect others. The soundbite we always here is, "gay marriage goes against my definition of marriage." The argument fails to show how gay marriage affects opponents' marriages.

I would say abortion is a much different issue. There are secular concerns at hand. The father of the child has no say since the fetus is inside the woman's body. It's not right that assisted suicide is illegal, but a woman can choose to end an other's life. There are other factors that make abortion more complex, including but not limited to, rape, development of fetus, incest, age, or woman's health factors. For me, I think both extremes, either 'no one can abort' or 'everyone can abort' are missing the mark.

Since we are on the subject, even though I think it has little relevance, is contraception. They don't affect others, therefore everyone has the right to use them whenever or where ever they are legally able to do the deed.

Lets... steer entirely clear of abortion lol. That is a topic that will likely get a rise out of everybody and it is not at all relevant to an LGBT Club - even less relevant than contraception :P

Shining Raichu said:

Lets... steer entirely clear of abortion lol. That is a topic that will likely get a rise out of everybody and it is not at all relevant to an LGBT Club - even less relevant than contraception :P

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So you're saying...we should abort this topic.

Hey, um...

I'd like to join...

Uhm....................................awkward

Also, I want to ask a question. What would you call it if you're, uh, "gay", but you are currently refusing to accept that you are? :|

Because it would be nice to know what I should call myself...

droomph said:

Hey, um...

I'd like to join...

Uhm....................................awkward

Also, I want to ask a question. What would you call it if you're, uh, "gay", but you are currently refusing to accept that you are? :|

Because it would be nice to know what I should call myself...

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The same question goes to my head :D

Keiran777 said:

So you're saying...we should abort this topic.

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LOL.

droomph said:

Hey, um...

I'd like to join...

Uhm....................................awkward

Also, I want to ask a question. What would you call it if you're, uh, "gay", but you are currently refusing to accept that you are? :|

Because it would be nice to know what I should call myself...

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Hey droomph, welcome! It's not awkward at all, we're always happy to have new blood around :)

I don't think there's a specific word for that, but "closeted" and "self-loathing" both come to mind as possibilities, if you really need to label it for yourself. Though that second one may seem a little harsh lol

Anyway, if you're refusing to accept that you're gay, that's totally normal. Most people your age dealing with such things would find it an overwhelming prospect - but that's why groups like this exist; we're here to help you :) - so you can ask us anything or talk to us about anything, we're a safe space. Or if you want to talk to someone privately about it, you're welcome to VM or PM me (or add me on MSN) any time!

90210 said:

The same question goes to my head :D

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Hi there! Were you looking to join us as well? :3

droomph said:

Hey, um...

I'd like to join...

Uhm....................................awkward

Also, I want to ask a question. What would you call it if you're, uh, "gay", but you are currently refusing to accept that you are? :|

Because it would be nice to know what I should call myself...

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If someone is "gay" (with the quotation marks), rather than just gay, that could mean a lot of different things, but I think the proper term is "questioning."

Lots of people go through a part of their lives where they think they might be gay (or bi, asexual, etc.) and for some it's difficult because it's not how they imagine themselves or how they grew up. The best thing for someone who is gay but not accepting of themselves (or someone who just isn't sure) is to know that they aren't alone, that there are people who can help them if they feel they need help, and that whether they choose to define themselves as straight, gay, bi, homoromantic, or anything else they are all okay things to be and nothing anyone should make them feel ashamed of.

But I think if anyone asks you and you want to give them an answer you should say you're questioning. It might sound a little weak to use a word like that, but it doesn't make whatever sexuality you have (or will have) any less valid because you had to question it. Really, it makes it stronger because you did. I'm just adding this because sometimes you need to have something you can say to someone if they ask.

-ty- said:

I think that the "one nation, under god" is not really worth losing sleep over. If you don't want to recite that section of the pledge, then you have the choice to not recite it. If you want to recite that section of the pledge, then you should have the choice to recite it. There are other issues that deserve more attention.

Gay Marriage and abortion should be looked at as secular issues. The Supreme Court has developed several secular tests that determine the Constitutionality of a law, although these "tests" are often very subjective in their application.

Gay Marriage does not negatively affect others. The soundbite we always here is, "gay marriage goes against my definition of marriage." The argument fails to show how gay marriage affects opponents' marriages...

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I think a problem here is that States/Country 'try' pushing Gay Marriage laws through as though they need the opinion, which in turn kind of allows comments such as 'marriage goes against my definition of marriage'. Instead governments should be pushing laws through regardless, in the interest of human rights and equality laws - rather than letting the people against change, in some places an overwhelming majority, have a say.



[Oh join me too :3 Hello]

Heya, guys. I would like to join this club, being gay myself and all, and since this seems like a friendly place.

Shining Raichu said:

Hey droomph, welcome! It's not awkward at all, we're always happy to have new blood around :)

I don't think there's a specific word for that, but "closeted" and "self-loathing" both come to mind as possibilities, if you really need to label it for yourself. Though that second one may seem a little harsh lol

Anyway, if you're refusing to accept that you're gay, that's totally normal. Most people your age dealing with such things would find it an overwhelming prospect - but that's why groups like this exist; we're here to help you :) - so you can ask us anything or talk to us about anything, we're a safe space. Or if you want to talk to someone privately about it, you're welcome to VM or PM me (or add me on MSN) any time!

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Scarf said:

If someone is "gay" (with the quotation marks), rather than just gay, that could mean a lot of different things, but I think the proper term is "questioning."

Lots of people go through a part of their lives where they think they might be gay (or bi, asexual, etc.) and for some it's difficult because it's not how they imagine themselves or how they grew up. The best thing for someone who is gay but not accepting of themselves (or someone who just isn't sure) is to know that they aren't alone, that there are people who can help them if they feel they need help, and that whether they choose to define themselves as straight, gay, bi, homoromantic, or anything else they are all okay things to be and nothing anyone should make them feel ashamed of.

But I think if anyone asks you and you want to give them an answer you should say you're questioning. It might sound a little weak to use a word like that, but it doesn't make whatever sexuality you have (or will have) any less valid because you had to question it. Really, it makes it stronger because you did. I'm just adding this because sometimes you need to have something you can say to someone if they ask.

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Thanks...nice to know! ^^

You're all so supportive...

It's only because my parents are Asian-nice to me (like, they accept my Bs), and I couldn't even imagine what would happen to me if I told them the truth.

Also it's because I don't want to become "the gay uncle" at all the family reunions. I mean, that's nice, but not something for me.

And "gay" and "computer guy" don't really want to be in the same sentence.

Thanks guys, I could never tell anyone...and I still can't but that's gonna change

BACK OFF BIBLE HUMPERS HERE I COME (out)

http://www.officialplaystationmagaz...fect-3-backlash-why-gamers-should-be-ashamed/
http://www.thegameeffect.com/news/fans-slam-mass-effect-3-on-metacritic-with-anti-gay-reviews

Well, this is depressing, though not surprising. I'm fairly certain the first two games had lesbian sex scenes, and everyone loved that.



Also, glad we're getting so many new members. Stay with us for awhile guys. :D

QuilavaKing said:

http://www.officialplaystationmagaz...fect-3-backlash-why-gamers-should-be-ashamed/
http://www.thegameeffect.com/news/fans-slam-mass-effect-3-on-metacritic-with-anti-gay-reviews

Well, this is depressing, though not surprising. I'm fairly certain the first two games had lesbian sex scenes, and everyone loved that.



Also, glad we're getting so many new members. Stay with us for awhile guys. :D

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Baring in mind I have never played any of the Mass Effect games...

From what I understand ME (rather like COD) is one of those 'all real men play ____' kind of games. The comments on the review make it sound like there is literally a porn scene? I imagine they're probably blowing it out of proportion, but if there actually is a sex scene... Well I'd rather not have any sex in my games ;_;.

I think in Western vs Eastern games comparison, the Western rarely have effeminate, timid, or generally men that aren't RAH KILL, LOOK AT MY MUSCLES. Eastern games tend to have much more variety, and certainly a lot less manlyman type characters.

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Watched videos, I really commend the makers for doing this actually. It's good to break down stereotypes, and from what I can tell they definitely do that.

Also, from what I've seen anyway, making the character gay is entirely up to the players choice - so what difference does it make to them anyway?

(And there is a lesbian scene, bet the same people aren't complaining about that...)

It's absolutely terrible that people can be that way, especially if it is all just optional and the protagonist may just as well not deal in homosexual relationships. I think that the reviews are largely exaggerated on the level of how much it's forced down people's throats, and that the heterosexual option turning out be renegade was largely at the fault of the previous actions of the player, possibly intentional just to find something to complain about.

This does remind me of the entirely optional, and perfectly ignorable option in Skyrim to also marry those of the same sex, which got a similar criticism, though not as vocal as this.

The thing is, these people aren't just asking for their own choices to stay a heterosexual character have equal opportunity, they just want to sweep any hint of homosexuality, any hint of people who are on their subjective list of people that are one of "them", to not be present.

I'd be pissed too if a supposed open-choice game would force a specific direction down the throat of the protagonist, purely for roleplaying value's sake, but they're taking it over the top cranked up to eleven.

Welcome EGKangaroo! I noticed your thread up in NU/W and I very nearly said hi but I suck at those threads and can never think of anything to say in them XD

I tend to agree with SwiftSign about the Mass Effect thing. Straight men are likely (in fact, in the more "manly" or "badass" - or pseudo-badass in the case of hardcore gamers - it's almost required) to be overtly homophobic just to prove that they themselves are not gay. It's 'cool' to be grossed out by such things just to make sure everybody knows that they like vagina and penis is never OK. It is disgusting and it's no excuse, but I'm not really all that surprised by it either. I don't think they realise the damage they're causing.

Shining Raichu said:

Welcome EGKangaroo! I noticed your thread up in NU/W and I very nearly said hi but I suck at those threads and can never think of anything to say in them XD

I tend to agree with SwiftSign about the Mass Effect thing. Straight men are likely (in fact, in the more "manly" or "badass" - or pseudo-badass in the case of hardcore gamers - it's almost required) to be overtly homophobic just to prove that they themselves are not gay. It's 'cool' to be grossed out by such things just to make sure everybody knows that they like vagina and penis is never OK. It is disgusting and it's no excuse, but I'm not really all that surprised by it either. I don't think they realise the damage they're causing.

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Yeah, I never got that. Why do they have to stop gay people from marrying, unless gay people are the ones running around ruining their favorite t-shirt every day?

Maybe we should show them some love and tell them nicely that no one cares that they're straight, just as we generally don't show that we're gay/bisexual/etc. (although there are some that do...)