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Old November 21st, 2011 (11:37 AM).
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The reason I see T together with LGB is because our struggles are similar and we fight for similar rights. People who are overweight and homeless have a problem that is solvable and that they weren't born with as a condition. (I realise people can be born into homelessness or inherit the "fat gene" or be born as big babies, however you're not born at 500 pounds and you're not born at a time where you don't have plenty of your life left, like older homeless do. I hope that makes sense.) LGBT people on the other hand don't have problems and we don't need to "solve" being gay, bi, lesbian or trans. It's not unhealthy to be gay, bi, lesbian or trans. Also the general consensus is that we were born this way. (People will disagree with this but it's what most of us say, so it's general consensus.) Most importantly, however, we all face issues such as gay marriage, coming out, pride, discrimination (most people that discriminate against gay people discriminate against trans people too, at least from what I've seen) among other things. For example, a trans woman marrying a man would be legally regarded as a gay marriage if the woman hasn't changed her legal gender to female. Also, from my own perspective, in some states I can't be married to a woman and be legally regarded as female at the same time, leaving my own transition and marriage at odds. Thus I think most trans people, gay or not, will benefit from gay marriage being made legal.
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That wasn't disorganized. Don't worry. And I pretty much agree with everything you said.

Now I'm kind of regretting using overweight people as my example though. I wanted to bring up the idea of gay rights in conjunction with women's rights and the rights of racial minorities since those are people who can face discrimination for something that they shouldn't. I just didn't want to turn the conversation toward a discussion about feminism and racism since, I dunno, I didn't think people would want to talk about those topics here.
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That wasn't disorganized. Don't worry. And I pretty much agree with everything you said.

Now I'm kind of regretting using overweight people as my example though. I wanted to bring up the idea of gay rights in conjunction with women's rights and the rights of racial minorities since those are people who can face discrimination for something that they shouldn't. I just didn't want to turn the conversation toward a discussion about feminism and racism since, I dunno, I didn't think people would want to talk about those topics here.
As far as sexism, I feel like that is included in a way. I mean, many lesbians prefer to be more 'butch' which brings up the issues of whether or not that's how a 'real' woman acts, etc. So I feel like while the issue itself might not often be included in name, it's always implicitly involved in LGBT issues.

As far as racism, I honestly think that that issue is strongest on its own. While people still openly can say "I think gay marriage is wrong", it's pretty much an accepted truth (at least among the educated) that for example being against interracial marriage is wrong and such. Because it's been so widely accepted that being racist is 'wrong', while for LGBT issues it's not as widely accepted yet, I feel bundling the two together would weaken the stance that racism takes because instead of people seeing the connection and taking as strong a stance about LGBT issues, they might instead see the connection and take a less strong stance on racism issues.
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That wasn't disorganized. Don't worry. And I pretty much agree with everything you said.
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As far as sexism, I feel like that is included in a way. I mean, many lesbians prefer to be more 'butch' which brings up the issues of whether or not that's how a 'real' woman acts, etc. So I feel like while the issue itself might not often be included in name, it's always implicitly involved in LGBT issues.

As far as racism, I honestly think that that issue is strongest on its own. While people still openly can say "I think gay marriage is wrong", it's pretty much an accepted truth (at least among the educated) that for example being against interracial marriage is wrong and such. Because it's been so widely accepted that being racist is 'wrong', while for LGBT issues it's not as widely accepted yet, I feel bundling the two together would weaken the stance that racism takes because instead of people seeing the connection and taking as strong a stance about LGBT issues, they might instead see the connection and take a less strong stance on racism issues.
This this this omg.

. . . To keep this from being a spam post I'll just say I also think racial minorities and women/men are just too "common". I mean I would be incredibly surprised at anyone who's never seen a male or a female in their life, and racial minorities, despite being minorities, are quite common in America. My point being LGBT people are not all over the map like some people, and people often don't have to think about the issue at all because they don't meet gay or trans people. Also, even if they did meet gay or trans people, they wouldn't know it because it's not a "visible" condition. The only way you can perfectly tell if someone is gay is if they either tell you or they walk around with their significant other being cute. I have known tonnes of people who claim to have never met a lesbian before me, and at least four people in this thread have never met a trans person before (and probably WAY more than that).
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As far as sexism, I feel like that is included in a way. I mean, many lesbians prefer to be more 'butch' which brings up the issues of whether or not that's how a 'real' woman acts, etc. So I feel like while the issue itself might not often be included in name, it's always implicitly involved in LGBT issues.

As far as racism, I honestly think that that issue is strongest on its own. While people still openly can say "I think gay marriage is wrong", it's pretty much an accepted truth (at least among the educated) that for example being against interracial marriage is wrong and such. Because it's been so widely accepted that being racist is 'wrong', while for LGBT issues it's not as widely accepted yet, I feel bundling the two together would weaken the stance that racism takes because instead of people seeing the connection and taking as strong a stance about LGBT issues, they might instead see the connection and take a less strong stance on racism issues.
I think it's interesting that when I used the terms "women's rights" and "feminism" you used the term "sexism". Just observing.

But before I totally derail this thread I do want to point out that the gay rights movement as a whole has a very white face and there are some varying levels of, if not racism, then racial ... ignorance? ... within it. Like a gay friend of mine has told me that there a lot of gay men who have a "no fats, no Asians" policy when it comes to dating and are very public about this. I personally don't like to see other issues/groups getting sidelined for one group's cause.
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Like a gay friend of mine has told me that there a lot of gay men who have a "no fats, no Asians" policy when it comes to dating and are very public about this. I personally don't like to see other issues/groups getting sidelined for one group's cause.
Gay people excluding or being racist is its own problem. I don't think there's an immediate solution to this unfortunately. :(

I think the only way we could "give LGBT less of a white face" is by just individually participating more in general anti-discrimination stuff, i.e. focusing on ALL anti-discrimination. That's what I'm all about. :P We, as LGBT people that aren't racist, can try and go out and show how we don't want any discrimination ever. Try to emphasise this on your own terms by doing your own good things. However you can't get white racist people to care about minorities . . . you just can't do it.
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    When you say you can't stand the opposite sex physically do you mean that 1) they are the opposite sex of the sex you were given at birth and 2) that you are not attracted to that sex or that you can't stand the thought of being that sex? I'm just a little unsure which you mean, but I can say that it's perfectly normal for someone who is trans to be attracted to one sex or the other, or both, or none at all, regardless of what their own gender is. If that is something which is making you doubt what you're feeling, well, there's no need.

    Body hatred is something a lot of trans people feel, but it's also something that non-trans people feel, too, of course. (And of course there are trans people who don't feel this, and so on.) I guess what I'm trying to say is that instead of trying to pinpoint a term I'd encourage you just to do whatever you feel suits you best and not worry about the terminology. If you prefer to be thought of and addressed as one particular sex then you should let people know that. If you just want to dress a certain way without wanting other parts of your identity to be different then you should do that. I know it can be nice to say "I'm _____" and having some camaraderie with other people who are the same, but I would hope you'd be happier being true to yourself and carving out an identity for yourself. If it turns out that you're trans then good for you. If it turns out that you're asexual and genderfluid then good for you, too. As long as you're happy with yourself that's what matters.
    When I say I cannot stand the opposite sex physically, I mean 1) I was born female and I cannot stand the sight of the male body whatsoever and 2) because I cannot stand males physically as much as I do, I am concerned that I would abousolutely hate looking at myself in the mirror.
    However, while I am attracted to females I really cannot stand being in a female body either and am constantly trying to appear to be as masculine as possible and prefer to be adressed by male pronouns.

    Maybe I should have just said that to begin with.

    I really do appreciate your and Ineffable's input though :)
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      Well, before figuring out how, do you think it would be safe to tell your parents? That's the most important thing to ask before you decide if you should. I'm probably sounding overly cautious, but you never know.

      If you're going to tell them then you could do it in person or by some other means if you don't feel you can tell them directly (like by calling them or something). I would think it would be better to tell them in person though unless you really don't think you could. You can also think about telling one of them before the other, or another family member first. If you have anyone else you might think would be more sympathetic (and could maybe stand by you when you tell your parents) that could be a big help. You'd have someone to support you and you'd already have gone through the coming out process with someone in your family/someone you're close to.

      But yeah, it's not something that we can really advice on without knowing your situation. We wouldn't want to give you bad advice on accident.
      well my mom probaly has figured it out so im not worried about her. but my dad hates gay men but loves lesbians so i dont know what i should do
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      When I say I cannot stand the opposite sex physically, I mean 1) I was born female and I cannot stand the sight of the male body whatsoever and 2) because I cannot stand males physically as much as I do, I am concerned that I would abousolutely hate looking at myself in the mirror.
      However, while I am attracted to females I really cannot stand being in a female body either and am constantly trying to appear to be as masculine as possible and prefer to be adressed by male pronouns.

      Maybe I should have just said that to begin with.

      I really do appreciate your and Ineffable's input though :)
      I can understand you not wanting to go into detail though, especially with strangers, so it's okay you didn't say that to begin with. Your situation is one that I don't think there is a single term to describe (at least not one I know of) so like I said before, just do what makes you happiest. It sounds like you know what you want and that's good.

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      well my mom probaly has figured it out so im not worried about her. but my dad hates gay men but loves lesbians so i dont know what i should do
      Well, again, we don't want to give you the wrong advice, but if you think your mom would be supportive you could have her be with you when/if you tell your dad. If you're close with your dad then I would think he'd be able to get over himself once he realized you're family. I know enough people who worried about telling their dads only to have very anti-climactic coming out stories. But anyway, if/when you decide to tell him you could always plan to have a travel bag of clothes and things ready and a friend who'll let you stay over for a night or two. Just in case.
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      When I say I cannot stand the opposite sex physically, I mean 1) I was born female and I cannot stand the sight of the male body whatsoever and 2) because I cannot stand males physically as much as I do, I am concerned that I would abousolutely hate looking at myself in the mirror.
      However, while I am attracted to females I really cannot stand being in a female body either and am constantly trying to appear to be as masculine as possible and prefer to be adressed by male pronouns.

      Maybe I should have just said that to begin with.

      I really do appreciate your and Ineffable's input though :)
      Derp, I thought you were born male. @__@;
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      well my mom probaly has figured it out so im not worried about her. but my dad hates gay men but loves lesbians so i dont know what i should do
      Do you think your mother would be accepting about it? If you think she would be supportive then, like Scarf said, you can always use her as a sort of mediator or perhaps even have her tell your father. Also if you have siblings or friends that you think would be supportive, it might make it easier to come out to them first. Make sure you have at least a few people "on your side" before making any rash moves.
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      But before I totally derail this thread I do want to point out that the gay rights movement as a whole has a very white face and there are some varying levels of, if not racism, then racial ... ignorance? ... within it. Like a gay friend of mine has told me that there a lot of gay men who have a "no fats, no Asians" policy when it comes to dating and are very public about this. I personally don't like to see other issues/groups getting sidelined for one group's cause.
      I don't think this is particularly a case of racism. While being so open about it and putting it in the form of some official policy is incredibly tasteless, I think this is just a matter of attraction. The blunt truth is that a lot of people are not attracted to overweight people and Asian people.

      The issue I have with that is that by being outspoken about that, it creates a culture of disrespect toward both and a sense that you are above them in some way. That would be the racist aspect, but the core attraction concept isn't.
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        Sometimes I feel like i have to separate myself from the "******", "slackers", "druggies" and "chubs" in my dating life, and aside from the "chubs" category, I would not be friends with those that I would place into those categories. Although the labels seem harsh, I would never treat anyone in these categories poorly as a person, but I don't identify with them, and I think it is fair for me to exclude them from my love life. As far as race goes...I have a tendency to be more attracted to Caucasian men and mixed Caucasian men, but I think that there are attractive people from all ethnicities. I think white gay men feel like they have more in common with other white gay men, and they may also think that dating a white man is less pejorative than dating a person of color, going back to the whole compensation for being homosexual; I don't think it is horrible for those gay men to exclude other races from their dating life, but I think that it is a limiting prerequisite that will downsize their selection pool of gay men to date, in a pool that is already sparse. But hey, I may be a bit of a hypocrite because I won't date overweight men, thus, cutting my own selection pool.
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        Sometimes I feel like i have to separate myself from the "******", "slackers", "druggies" and "chubs" in my dating life, and aside from the "chubs" category, I would not be friends with those that I would place into those categories.
        I think that's just called having standards. lol

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        I don't recall anyone ever mentioning my sexuality in any way actually. Some of my friends knew that I liked a girl named Allison, and the rest were all nerds and didn't have girlfriends either, so I don't think anyone had any reason to question it. lol
        Sort of off topic, but I just remembered, completely out of nowhere, that I used to tell people "I'm a Christian, I can't be Gay." so people must have asked me. I don't remember ever actually being asked though lol.
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        I think that some gay people, including myself to an extent, strive to almost dispose of any "pejorative" qualities we have; essentially, perfectionism, in order to compensate for how others perceive our sexuality. I don't pretend to act straight, but I would say that I try to be very ambitious, stay in shape, and plan to get married and have children. Basically, possess the qualities that most men who are straight envy.

        Sometimes I feel like i have to separate myself from the "******", "slackers", "druggies" and "chubs" in my dating life, and aside from the "chubs" category, I would not be friends with those that I would place into those categories. Although the labels seem harsh, I would never treat anyone in these categories poorly as a person, but I don't identify with them, and I think it is fair for me to exclude them from my love life. As far as race goes...I have a tendency to be more attracted to Caucasian men and mixed Caucasian men, but I think that there are attractive people from all ethnicities. I think white gay men feel like they have more in common with other white gay men, and they may also think that dating a white man is less pejorative than dating a person of color, going back to the whole compensation for being homosexual; I don't think it is horrible for those gay men to exclude other races from their dating life, but I think that it is a limiting prerequisite that will downsize their selection pool of gay men to date, in a pool that is already sparse. But hey, I may be a bit of a hypocrite because I won't date overweight men, thus, cutting my own selection pool.
        I also treat people equally but I too can't help not being attracted to overweight people. (even though I'm a little overweight myself T_T) But I find any race attractive unlike people I know. A lot of people tell me they can't see themselves dating anyone black. I can, I've seen many black girls in my school that I would like to date. As well as whites, asians, pretty much anyone. I'd think I wouldn't have much trouble finding dates because I'm straight (no offense) but a surprising amount of people think I'm gay because I support gay rights.
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        I think that's just called having standards. lol
        I lol'd, a lot. Honestly ty, if that's the best stock you've managed to come up with as boyfriends in the past, then I think you need to start looking in a different place.
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          I don't think it's just a gay thing either.. ._. Like I, for one, can find people of different races to be good looking, but, to be honest, I found I can only truly be attracted to paler skinned people. (This is if we're talking about physicality only.)
          I don't know what it is, really.. like I can look at a black guy and say "he's good looking/ he's really handsome" but I don't feel an attraction : | *Shrug*~
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          I don't think it's just a gay thing either.. ._. Like I, for one, can find people of different races to be good looking, but, to be honest, I found I can only truly be attracted to paler skinned people. (This is if we're talking about physicality only.)
          I don't know what it is, really.. like I can look at a black guy and say "he's good looking/ he's really handsome" but I don't feel an attraction : | *Shrug*~
          I get this same exact thing. I just don't like really dark skin. It's not even a race thing, because I don't even get attracted to white people that are really tan. It's just, iunno, dark skin isn't for me. That doesn't mean I have to go around saying "black people get outta my face y'all r sick homely mofos". ~_~ Let's have our manners.
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            I honestly don't have any racism or dislike towards another race, but it's moreso that I have a favouritism towards pale men (just a thing I like - call it fetish if you must).

            On a side note, my schools 3 / 4 Media class is doing the autobiographical film Milk as one of it's texts alongside Modern Family which I think will show gay culture to an otherwise heterosexual school and broaden their views.
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            I love Modern Family, but I'm not sure that showing them sitcom gays is really a way to open their eyes, particularly if you're trying to defend against stereotyping lol
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            Old November 24th, 2011 (1:40 AM).
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              I know but I suppose that the stigma around homosexuality will decrease with increased contact with it. And my schools actually working to stop homophobia from what I gather, they've been putting up Coming Out posters around the school.
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              Old November 24th, 2011 (5:01 PM).
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                I lol'd, a lot. Honestly ty, if that's the best stock you've managed to come up with as boyfriends in the past, then I think you need to start looking in a different place.
                lol, well I only had one boyfriend in the past. And he satisfied the druggy, wh***, and unambitious categories, basically everything except overweight, but he hid the above qualities pretty well. But yeah you are right, I pretty much ended up with the exact opposite of what I wanted. I am moving down state next fall so I will hold off until then to date, but the population is much much much higher, so I should have more options!
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                Old November 24th, 2011 (6:19 PM).
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                  Hiii, I just discovered this thread and would love to join. I'm a homoromantic asexual. Everyone knows, but hardly anyone believes me, which is annoying but I don't care. I'm the only one I know in real life, so it's always nice to see others, albiet online. ^_^
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                  Old November 24th, 2011 (7:17 PM).
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                  That's awesome ty, I hope there are some better guys where you're moving XD

                  Hi Keiran777! Welcome! The only other homoromantic asexual I've ever heard of is Project Runway's Tim Gunn. I don't watch the show, but I saw an interview with him on TV one time and he identified himself as exactly that.

                  Meanwhile, I think it's time for a new question, since things seem to have slowed down a little:

                  How do you feel about the LGBT equality battle being seen as a 'first-world problem' that won't matter as long as there are people living in third-world poverty?
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                  Old November 25th, 2011 (9:27 PM).
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                  I'm pretty sure there are some other homoromantic asexual members on PC (or was it biromantic?) Anyway, for the question.

                  How do you feel about the LGBT equality battle being seen as a 'first-world problem' that won't matter as long as there are people living in third-world poverty?

                  Is it the idea that says we shouldn't worry about LGBT rights in the developing world because poverty is "more pressing" or something like that? I think that's the wrong way of looking at it. There are places in the third world where gay people can be attacked with impunity, where governments can kill you for being gay. I mean, what good is it helping countries when they're still doing things like that? You can and should fix the all the problems in a developing country. Education is really the most important thing as far as fixing the problems of a country. Ugh. I can't express what I'm trying to say.

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                  Old November 27th, 2011 (1:22 AM).
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                  Sorry for my prolonged absence guiz. I shall use Thanksgiving as my excuse.

                  Since I think it's relevant here, I'll mention that my sister is now apparently willing to address me as a girl when we're alone, a fact I discovered when she called me "Mags" right before saying goodbye and leaving to go back to school. :3

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                  How do you feel about the LGBT equality battle being seen as a 'first-world problem' that won't matter as long as there are people living in third-world poverty?
                  I don't get it. I mean do you mean in viewing third-world countries people don't think it's a bad thing that most of them don't accept us all as equals? I wasn't aware that anyone thought this, but no I don't think giving all people their civil rights is something that should only happen in developed countries. @.@;
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                  Old November 27th, 2011 (5:31 AM).
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                  What I meant by the question is people saying that LGBT rights basically don't matter because the third world exists, and while there are people in third world countries dying of starvation and various diseases, no other issues in the world matter.
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