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Old October 30th, 2018 (2:54 PM). Edited October 30th, 2018 by ShinyUmbreon189.
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    Maybe one day we’ll all be as woke as you.
    I like to call it, "self aware". Not sure if you were trying to insult me or not, but if so... Keep believing what those in power tell you. Chances are, it's to further their agenda. There's a reason things are the way they are. I'm only here to enlighten, but am often looked at as an enemy for trying to awaken people.

    Back on topic.. As I said, mental illness isn't taken seriously enough. Instead of portraying guns as the problem, what about mental illnesses? Seems to be more and more people being diagnosed with a mental illness.. The way the world is run and how we're forced to struggle wouldn't have anything to do about that now would it?
    If a mass murderer has a mental illness and committed mass murder as anger at the system, one would assume there's a problem with both mental illnesses and the system right? How longs it gonna take for people to realize the system is simply that broken?
    Ya know, high poverty rate, incarceration rate, suicide rate, gun violence rate, the list goes on. All can be blamed on the system for not taking care of the people. Isn't that their duty? I don't think people understand how this all links together into one. Yet they pick one thing and blame it on that instead of themselves. This is the reason why I dread debating with many on here cause most simply don't understand what they don't know, or what they haven't been told or taught. I'm a free thinker, not a sheep taking teams.
    Muk if it were up to me, nobody would starve. Why? Cause it's a necessity for survival. When people in poverty are using guns to intimidate others cause they just need food you know that's a problem with the SYSTEM not guns. When mentally ill people commit mass murder, that's again on the SYSTEM ignoring the fact their mentally ill and might be dangerous and that it's a good idea to do stricter psychological testings and background checks..
    What about minorities in poverty? Oh wait, wasn't slavery and black hatred a thing? Yeah, well it still is today! Yep, classified in classes making them less privileged meaning less opportunity equaling poverty which leads to doing what one needs to do to get money which results to criminal activity. Oh but guess what? When they get caught with what the SYSTEM provided them with they do what? Incarcerate them.
    Yeah, that's how the world really works. Or the fact that mentally ill might use that on others or themselves.. Yeah, suicide rate isn't high cause guns are easily accessible. Oh no no no. There's MANY more problems than guns, yet guns are the biggest concern? In no way, shape, or form is a gun dangerous in the hands of a law abiding citizen that knows gun safety.. How many times has a police officer got a call to the ghetto cause some gang banger shot another gang banger? All the psyducking time so they usually don't get involved in it this "black on black crime". Media never says anything about mass murders that happen in Chicago every year cause it's black on black. See, it's all an agenda.
    But yeah, when you got all these problems... And the wealthy elites profiting off of that is enough to piss anyone off after you realize they've been lying to you since the beginning. What people need to do, is just wake up. It's not that difficult really.
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      Okay, and Fox news is as biased as the rest, whats your point?
      It's no conspiracy theory the worlds controlled by the wealthy elites.. Funded by Corporations, lying about everything in the media to divide the people while they leech and make profit. You think anyone in power gives a muk whether you succeed in life or not? To me, this is a problem. I'm not saying they're behind these conspiracies, it's all speculation.. But at the same time, what does it seem the left leaning media is trying to do? Portray guns as the problem. Who's a supporter to the left and funds the left? George Soros himself. It's so easy to create illusions to get people to believe and gain supporters, especially if you already have them at your fingertips. How else would the media be "successful"?
      With that being said. What makes any source or information more accurate than the next when none of the sources have the full story? Have you read between the lines and watched the lies the left and right spew to gain attention and followers? It's a strong magic spell to lift off. Not like real magic, but after seeing how biased both sides are on the same incident proved to me it's all acting for profit and support, and of course to distract us from their true plans. But in the end, it's controlled by the same people because they enjoy watching us suffer and resort to chaos over beliefs in what one would portray as right or wrong, which is why I say "black and white" way of viewing the world, which they created. It's twisted I know. But guess what, it's worked since the beginning of humans.
      To think people have power is a delusion. Only people whom obtain power are those in power.
      The least you can do is post this in a more reasonable fashion that does not include wild conspiracy theories.
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      Old October 30th, 2018 (4:59 PM). Edited October 30th, 2018 by ShinyUmbreon189.
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        The least you can do is post this in a more reasonable fashion that does not include wild conspiracy theories.
        Oh hi, seem's I've come across another person that doesn't understand how the world works? How are these conspiracy theories wild? I'll patiently wait for your response..

        In the meantime... Could you please explain how the average citizen has a say in how the world works and how the wealthy few make billions upon billions a year by forcing us to support their "profit organizations" for survival? I mean, they're the ONLY few in the population with that type of money. Is that not how the world works? If not, could you also explain how the world works, by proving that the wealthy elite don't control the world and money?
        Nobody has yet to explain why the left and right debate is filled with holes without defending their side. You think people actually have a say? No, it's illusion of choice and it's oh so obvious. If you disagree.. Tell me HOW your vote matters when history has proven those in power set the standards and guidelines. They control everything, DUH!
        Last I checked we're forced to pay taxes and have no say where they go.. Guess where they go to? Military and intelligence is top of the list.. You'd be the first to admit you use technology daily but will refuse to admit it controls your daily life. guess what that means?
        Do you have authority over a police officer in court? Imagine the authority you have over such top tier power on the hierarchy. Until you can prove this isn't how the world works I will continue to post stuff like this.
        But it's easier to believe lies than to question it. People are asleep simply cause they either fear the truth or they're in deceit of the truth and don't want to accept they're wrong.
        Taking guns away from a robot like society would make their lives so much easier. Tho taking our guns would be their last or close to last freedom they'd strip.
        You should expand your mental before you start claiming anything a conspiracy.. Chances are, you have little to zero knowledge on the evidence us "conspiracy theorists" have. Trust me, you don't want it. I'm just warming up. :)
        Cause the way we do things, requires one to think for themselves. There's evidence everywhere, chances are you use it daily. Bet you still don't comprehend tho.

        Here's a little something to think about as well.. Makes a lot of strong points..

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        Don't you get it? We're just slaves.. Seriously tho, think of all the reasons how we aren't a slave to the system. Again I'll wait for that oh so short list.

        My question is... Why must a freedom of being stripped be in such high demand more so than what is behind the gun violence itself? Have you actually ever thought of that, or just blindly followed what media says? Which they automatically attack GUNS as their first target without acknowledging the links to MENTAL ILLNESS. It's not exactly that hard to connect the dots ya know. But people are naive, and those in power understand and know this. THAT'S how they keep us controlled and staying in power. Plus all the scare tactics to put us in fear.
        You got a lot to learn.
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        Old October 31st, 2018 (4:02 AM). Edited October 31st, 2018 by PhoenixIgnition.
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          I wanted to comment on this before, but I really don't know what to say.
          On the one hand, as an Israeli jew it's hard to find words when something like that happens. It infuriates me and saddens me. On the other hand, nothing new under the sun :\
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            There must be a gun shop here and there in Europe, since as far as I know guns are not completely and totally banned in Europe in general, so the (few?) people that do have them must be able to buy them somewhere.

            I think that some people have a bit of a skewed view on certain things regarding guns in the US too. Not everyone "worships" guns, it's not like the grocery stores have a gun aisle, and the country does actually have gun laws, believe it or not.

            Gun control is only part of the solution anyway.
            True. But unlike USA, you just can't walk in and buy one. That's the important difference.
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              Oh hi, seem's I've come across another person that doesn't understand how the world works? How are these conspiracy theories wild? I'll patiently wait for your response..

              In the meantime... Could you please explain how the average citizen has a say in how the world works and how the wealthy few make billions upon billions a year by forcing us to support their "profit organizations" for survival? I mean, they're the ONLY few in the population with that type of money. Is that not how the world works? If not, could you also explain how the world works, by proving that the wealthy elite don't control the world and money?
              Nobody has yet to explain why the left and right debate is filled with holes without defending their side. You think people actually have a say? No, it's illusion of choice and it's oh so obvious. If you disagree.. Tell me HOW your vote matters when history has proven those in power set the standards and guidelines. They control everything, DUH!
              Last I checked we're forced to pay taxes and have no say where they go.. Guess where they go to? Military and intelligence is top of the list.. You'd be the first to admit you use technology daily but will refuse to admit it controls your daily life. guess what that means?
              Do you have authority over a police officer in court? Imagine the authority you have over such top tier power on the hierarchy. Until you can prove this isn't how the world works I will continue to post stuff like this.
              But it's easier to believe lies than to question it. People are asleep simply cause they either fear the truth or they're in deceit of the truth and don't want to accept they're wrong.
              Taking guns away from a robot like society would make their lives so much easier. Tho taking our guns would be their last or close to last freedom they'd strip.
              You should expand your mental before you start claiming anything a conspiracy.. Chances are, you have little to zero knowledge on the evidence us "conspiracy theorists" have. Trust me, you don't want it. I'm just warming up. :)
              Cause the way we do things, requires one to think for themselves. There's evidence everywhere, chances are you use it daily. Bet you still don't comprehend tho.

              Here's a little something to think about as well.. Makes a lot of strong points..

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              Don't you get it? We're just slaves.. Seriously tho, think of all the reasons how we aren't a slave to the system. Again I'll wait for that oh so short list.

              My question is... Why must a freedom of being stripped be in such high demand more so than what is behind the gun violence itself? Have you actually ever thought of that, or just blindly followed what media says? Which they automatically attack GUNS as their first target without acknowledging the links to MENTAL ILLNESS. It's not exactly that hard to connect the dots ya know. But people are naive, and those in power understand and know this. THAT'S how they keep us controlled and staying in power. Plus all the scare tactics to put us in fear.
              You got a lot to learn.
              All that I am saying is to reword your argument so that it makes more sense and is easy to read. Is that too hard to ask?
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                All that I am saying is to reword your argument so that it makes more sense and is easy to read. Is that too hard to ask?
                Even more proof it seems that ShinyUmbreon had traumatic experiences in the past... Thankfully not enough to be anarchist but close.
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                Back on topic.. As I said, mental illness isn't taken seriously enough. Instead of portraying guns as the problem, what about mental illnesses? Seems to be more and more people being diagnosed with a mental illness.. The way the world is run and how we're forced to struggle wouldn't have anything to do about that now would it?
                Mental illness is an issue, you're not wrong about that. What solution can you think of for that? Just curious. I'll post my detailed thoughts as far as a response goes in response.
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                Old October 31st, 2018 (12:17 PM). Edited October 31st, 2018 by ShinyUmbreon189.
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                  Even more proof it seems that ShinyUmbreon had traumatic experiences in the past... Thankfully not enough to be anarchist but close.
                  Oh cool you can make assumptions!! Would you care to make fun of a real mentally ill person? Or is it just people whom you disagree with?
                  Wanna know something tho? That mentality about "traumatic experiences in past life" and making fun of that, is the reason motherpsyduckers commit mass murder.. It's people like you that give them reasons to hate when they're already empty.. It's people like you assuming and labeling, judging others you don't know without a clue of knowing what that person has been through, seen, or may have even done and I GUARANTEE I have done, seen, and been through more muk than you could fathom. For what? To make yourself feel more entitled? Trust me, I'm not just self aware, I'm spiritually awake. I'm FAR from mentally ill, trust me.
                  Besides, you know nothing other than what liberals believe, nor do you know muk about America and it's culture, and on top of that, making fun of mental illness.?? Therefore, I have no desires to debate with you. It's disgusting.

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                  Mental illness is an issue, you're not wrong about that. What solution can you think of for that? Just curious. I'll post my detailed thoughts as far as a response goes in response.
                  It starts with requiring stricter mental testings.. Maybe don't just do all the testings in a day cause one can easily cover up their illness.. Put a longer hold on getting a gun instead of just giving it to people that day when they buy? Ya know, actually take the muk seriously. If one has a history of mental illness in general it should be noted and taken more seriously. Focusing on mental illness will do more good than focusing on guns...
                  Cause to be real the two that commits a majority of the gun violence is the mentally ill and criminals..
                  Not everyone should have a gun, it's that simple.

                  Or ya know, take mental illness more seriously in schools and in general.. In a world of corruption, hate, and chaos it's hard for one not to lose themselves. This is why mental illness should be one of the top priorities. To prevent incidents like this... to help prevent suicide rate.. People commit suicide and commit mass murder cause they've disconnected themselves that far, and that's got a lot to do with the population around them not treating them the same as others, or by not filling their emotions with positivity. Not saying to give them false hope, but actually give them hope and show them they matter and have a purpose. People don't do this cause they fear the backlash it would have on their "friends or peers" cause that person is an "outsider".. People are so self absorbed these days that they would rather care about what someone may think of them, than to help a person in desperate need. What's that tell you about the "population?"
                  Take bullying more seriously..
                  There's so many things we can do as a society to help others without those in power telling us what or how to do it.. Just psyducking do it! People THINK they need leadership and positions of authority to make their decisions or to do something that's right.. No, you just need yourself. Psyduck those in authority for allowing this to happen while making profit off it.. They will never do the "right" thing to prevent bad things from happening.. It's on the people now.

                  What gets to me tho... Is people say "oh we need to do something about gun violence cause theres insane mass murderers running around". But completely ignore the black on black crime, which has WAY more gun violence than the mentally ill, or ignore the fact they're all "gun free zones". Then again, people believe what the media tells them and the media obviously isn't trying to navigate the people towards taking guns away.. But that's just a conspiracy that's oh so obvious.. Or the fact that taking guns away is a "freedom" of ours.
                  Take guns away, might as well turn to full tyranny, not that we aren't headed that direction anyways.. But I'm just crazy for not being liberal... To believe anything the liberal media tells you, is scary. Or to believe the media in general, is scary. To choose a side, is frightening.
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                    Oh cool you can make assumptions!! Would you care to make fun of a real mentally ill person? Or is it just people whom you disagree with?
                    Wanna know something tho? That mentality about "traumatic experiences in past life" and making fun of that, is the reason motherpsyduckers commit mass murder.. It's people like you that give them reasons to hate when they're already empty.. It's people like you assuming and labeling, judging others you don't know without a clue of knowing what that person has been through, seen, or may have even done and I GUARANTEE I have done, seen, and been through more muk than you could fathom. For what? To make yourself feel more entitled? Trust me, I'm not just self aware, I'm spiritually awake. I'm FAR from mentally ill, trust me.
                    Besides, you know nothing other than what liberals believe, nor do you know muk about America and it's culture, and on top of that, making fun of mental illness.?? Therefore, I have no desires to debate with you. It's disgusting.

                    There's so many things we can do as a society to help others without those in power telling us what or how to do it.. Just psyducking do it! People THINK they need leadership and positions of authority to make their decisions or to do something that's right.. No, you just need yourself. Psyduck those in authority for allowing this to happen while making profit off it.. They will never do the "right" thing to prevent bad things from happening.. It's on the people now.
                    Alright, gotcha. Even so, as you might guess, a society where society has a 'right' to guns is something I happen to view as alien and wrong. Can't help it you know. And as I also like to emphasize, you can 'insult' me for all you want about our society and I will take it in stride. That said, 2nd Amendment really is a 'relic' that deserves to be forgotten. Again, how many bodies it will take before Americans will do something about I wonder...
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                      Alright, gotcha. Even so, as you might guess, a society where society has a 'right' to guns is something I happen to view as alien and wrong. Can't help it you know. And as I also like to emphasize, you can 'insult' me for all you want about our society and I will take it in stride. That said, 2nd Amendment really is a 'relic' that deserves to be forgotten. Again, how many bodies it will take before Americans will do something about I wonder...
                      Still as ignorant on gun violence and America as always.. Here's the real problem... How many homeless people, starving children, doped out fiends in the streets, soldiers in war, gotta die while they make profit, before people realize this is a problem with the system? Or the fact all the shooters are/were mentally ill or a majority of gun violence is in poverty stricken areas, thanks to the system keeping them suppressed and classified in the poverty line. Or are you not familiar with how America really is and it's problems that are way more concerning than guns and stripping of "freedom"? Not sure why I asked cause the answers blatant.

                      As I said, it starts with focusing on mental illness and poverty.. Do those 2 things.. The gun violence will drop drastically. But this would never happen cause we're stuck arguing black and white debatesS
                      As for owning a gun being wrong... Wouldn't one say abortion is wrong? But I'm sure you find abortion 100% okay.. I don't agree with it, but it's a FREEDOM.
                      Guns aren't the PROBLEM. The SYSTEM is the PROBLEM.

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                        Alright, gotcha. Even so, as you might guess, a society where society has a 'right' to guns is something I happen to view as alien and wrong. Can't help it you know. And as I also like to emphasize, you can 'insult' me for all you want about our society and I will take it in stride. That said, 2nd Amendment really is a 'relic' that deserves to be forgotten. Again, how many bodies it will take before Americans will do something about I wonder...
                        Even if you repeal the 2nd Amendment, the guns still exist in the USA. Removing the law doesn't magically change anything. You would need to enforce the law, which would mean taking the guns away from people. And that won't end well. So come up with a better solution than, "Oh, why doesn't America just repeal the 2nd Amendment?!" Everytime a shooting happens in the USA, you always come running and posting this comment over and over again.

                        It is honestly starting to turn into an Onion article: "Local Finland man suggests amending the US Constitution. Americans are stunned that no one in history has suggested amending it."

                        Guns aren't the problem. Guns are the symptom. The cause of the violence is what is leading to the shootings in the first place. What the USA needs to do is have a Federal Program that all States must follow, which will help curb the violence. For example, you have people afraid of Jews and Black people, and their fear may translate into violence against them. You have Incels who are insecurity, and they lash out against women.

                        Furthermore, half of all gun violences are suicides, so the USA should put programs in place to help curb suicides. Bullying can lead to teens in the USA committing suicide, and transgender people are being bullied for being trans.

                        I also like that anyone required to own a gun, should be required to take a State training lesson to ensure they know how to properly use, maintain, and store a firearm.

                        Finally, I think a better exchange of information from all levels of Government will help too.
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                          ^ Couldn't have said this better myself. You executed fine points I made.

                          What I don't understand tho, is why people assume guns are the problem when they don't understand guns. Or attack guns as the problem when it's clearly not the case. I agree, stricter testings and classes would reduce WHO gets a firearm. Of course nobody is completely 100% sane and the testings may fluctuate for the average citizen so it should go off a point system like they do on medical testings.. Score high enough, no gun for you.

                          But lets discuss felons.. Should a felon that got caught with a couple ounces of weed be banned from owning a firearm even if that persons mentally stable? Surely a stoners gonna commit mass murder...
                          Where do you draw the line for criminals or felons?

                          The problem I have with guns in general is how the right wants to give everyone and their mother a gun cause it's a "God given right" and the left wants to take them away. Just compromise and sacrifice something on both sides.. Giving everyone a firearm is a bad idea, but taking them away is more of a bad idea. It's only escalating the issue at hand, making it that much more difficult to resolve. This is why I say the media is to deceive and divide.
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                            He pleaded not guilty to the charges (some? all? not sure)

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                            I believe that he is pleading not guilty to avoid serving time for his horrific act. Hope that this doesn't result in a reduced sentence. I would be glad if we knew that he could never be free again to hurt any more people.
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                              I believe that he is pleading not guilty to avoid serving time for his horrific act. Hope that this doesn't result in a reduced sentence. I would be glad if we knew that he could never be free again to hurt any more people.
                              See, this is the problem.. So our solution is to what, incarcerate?
                              How about we institutionalize him and study his thought patterns and what does and doesn't trigger him cause it's obvious he's mentally ill if he murdered a bunch of people. Try to find if there's any psychological links to all the shooters and find ways to prevent it than to ignore it altogether. Putting a mass murderer in prison doesn't do a thing.
                              Putting all the shooters in one basket and studying them, will help find solutions to the problems.
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                              Your posts are becoming more and more silly.

                              Of course peoples mental health is investigated during trial (hell, the defence will probably push that he is mentally unwell). But it will be decided based on the evidence given, rather than your blanket statement that anyone who commits murder must be mentally unwell. Stop excusing this foul act.
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                                Still as ignorant on gun violence and America as always.. Here's the real problem... How many homeless people, starving children, doped out fiends in the streets, soldiers in war, gotta die while they make profit, before people realize this is a problem with the system? Or the fact all the shooters are/were mentally ill or a majority of gun violence is in poverty stricken areas, thanks to the system keeping them suppressed and classified in the poverty line. Or are you not familiar with how America really is and it's problems that are way more concerning than guns and stripping of "freedom"? Not sure why I asked cause the answers blatant.

                                As I said, it starts with focusing on mental illness and poverty.. Do those 2 things.. The gun violence will drop drastically. But this would never happen cause we're stuck arguing black and white debatesS
                                As for owning a gun being wrong... Wouldn't one say abortion is wrong? But I'm sure you find abortion 100% okay.. I don't agree with it, but it's a FREEDOM.
                                Guns aren't the PROBLEM. The SYSTEM is the PROBLEM.

                                To DISTRACT, DECEIVE, AND DIVIDE is how they control a nation.
                                Sure, I guess America better solve all of it's problems NOW and not leave them for future generations. That said, mental people having easy to access to guns is the problem here, alongside prejudice towards people not of their own 'stock'. As for Abortion, my point is that let it be available to those who need it. It's not like anyone's forcing you to undergo the procedure or anything...
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                                  Sure, I guess America better solve all of it's problems NOW and not leave them for future generations. That said, mental people having easy to access to guns is the problem here, alongside prejudice towards people not of their own 'stock'. As for Abortion, my point is that let it be available to those who need it. It's not like anyone's forcing you to undergo the procedure or anything...
                                  And leaving it up to the powers that be to solve our problems will lead to more problems. I mean, isn't that how all these problems came to be in the first place? See how me being a "conspiracy theorist" is wrong? I just know what's going on is all. To leave it up to a specific side to solve the problems, will lead to more dividing and corruption. To fix these problems we need to unite as one and compromise.

                                  So you do agree mental illness is the problem? As do I... I agree, they have too easy access to firearms.. But didn't I also state I believe in stricter testings? I don't think you fully understand my position on gun violence and gun rights.
                                  I have a problem with mentally ill committing mass murder as well as criminals killing eachother over money and turf cause it's a survival tactic in those areas. But I also have a problem with removing a FREEDOM. I'm all for revising that freedom, as long as it doesn't infringe law abiding citizens whom are mentally stable and aware of gun safety to obtain a firearm because the system's not doing their job.

                                  Again, the SYSTEM is to BLAME for the CORRUPTION and CHAOS of the WORLD. Who else would of thought their priorities are ass backwards? Trust me, breaking their shackles and chains is a huge weight off your body.
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                                  I believe that he is pleading not guilty to avoid serving time for his horrific act. Hope that this doesn't result in a reduced sentence. I would be glad if we knew that he could never be free again to hurt any more people.
                                  I'm not an expert on US criminal law, but as far as I know, pleading guilty is what can potentially reduces one's sentence, while pleading not guilty does not potentially reduce the sentence.
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                                    I'm not an expert on US criminal law, but as far as I know, pleading guilty is what can potentially reduces one's sentence, while pleading not guilty does not potentially reduce the sentence.
                                    As someone who's been in the system for years (not anymore). Pleading non guilty to a crime they know you committed in hopes to reduce your sentence is testifying that you're "lying" in court in result extending the sentence. I've saw it happen time and time again. Tho mine wasn't for any capital crimes just petty felony charges which usually resulted in probation or jail time.. I'd assume capital crimes would be taken even more seriously.. People think they can "play" the system. They have control whether you like it or not.. I wouldn't recommend trying to deceive them as they're the "deceivers". They know all the tricks and will execute their powers just to make an example of you.
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                                      This is one of those things that won't ever stop. Hell, even if you took away all the guns people will still find a way to go on their killing sprees and this is something humans have been doing since before guns even existed and even in ways far worse then just being shot. Rather be shot then shoved into an iron maiden any day. There's always going to be those whom are intent on doing harm and they will find a way to do so.
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                                        This is one of those things that won't ever stop. Hell, even if you took away all the guns people will still find a way to go on their killing sprees and this is something humans have been doing since before guns even existed and even in ways far worse then just being shot. Rather be shot then shoved into an iron maiden any day. There's always going to be those whom are intent on doing harm and they will find a way to do so.
                                        True. But if you look at Europe and see how we fare over here, I suppose USA might have something to learn from us...
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                                          True. But if you look at Europe and see how we fare over here, I suppose USA might have something to learn from us...
                                          much like the us it depends upon which part of europe your talking about. some places are better the others, some are worse then others.
                                          guns didn't really become as big of an issue until the rise of kids getting their parents guns and people going on shooting sprees started happening. even then, the bigger problems always deal more with the people then the product. kids only got a hold of guns cause their parents where not responsible parents and shooting sprees are almost always done by someone who is controlled by their emotions.
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                                            much like the us it depends upon which part of europe your talking about. some places are better the others, some are worse then others.
                                            guns didn't really become as big of an issue until the rise of kids getting their parents guns and people going on shooting sprees started happening. even then, the bigger problems always deal more with the people then the product. kids only got a hold of guns cause their parents where not responsible parents and shooting sprees are almost always done by someone who is controlled by their emotions.
                                            True, hence the repeated calls of mental health checks instead of tackling the root of the problem at hand.
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