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Old February 19th, 2018 (4:24 PM).
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Probably not, but I think generally you should pay for what you consume.
Excellent motto. When will you be donating to PokeCommunity, something you consume? I might match the donation.
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Old February 19th, 2018 (4:31 PM). Edited February 19th, 2018 by Lucid.
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    I’ve been here for so long and it’s just... I’m not giving money... Lucid stingy
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    Old February 19th, 2018 (9:11 PM).
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    Do you think Spotify is going to go out of business because Sawsbuck blocks their ads?
    Tragedy of the commons dear
    if saws gets to use that logic then everyone gets to use that logic, and if everyone used that logic spotify would go out of business
    it's a good service that's well worth paying for tbh.
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    Old February 19th, 2018 (10:47 PM).
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    If the ads don't disrupt the music I don't see the issue.
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    Old February 19th, 2018 (10:55 PM).
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    im glad i get to avoid this entire ordeal by receiving spotify premium for free as a perk for working at starbucks
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    Old February 20th, 2018 (5:29 AM). Edited February 20th, 2018 by Her.
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    aw that poor billion dollar corporation, who will think of the shareholders
    it sure is unethical :/
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    Old February 20th, 2018 (5:35 AM).
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    i feel like there are people on pc who would support amazon buying a country
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    Old February 20th, 2018 (6:07 AM).
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      if saws gets to use that logic then everyone gets to use that logic, and if everyone used that logic spotify would go out of business
      I thought that these sites get revenue from ad clicks, or is it from the loading of ads as well?
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      Old February 20th, 2018 (8:58 AM).
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      Maybe it'd work out better to actually buy your music?
      I do buy music, when I have some money I'll go and buy an album I'm interested in (used) on CD
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      Old February 20th, 2018 (7:18 PM).
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      the whole pay for what you consume, does that mean people who can't afford food or medicine should just die?
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      the whole pay for what you consume, does that mean people who can't afford food or medicine should just die?
      Generally speaking. What I said shouldn't be universally applied... there are obviously many counterexamples. For example, if your country has programs for food stamps, healthcare, etc, then you are obviously entitled to the benefits by being a citizen. I believe that individuals have a moral obligation to help out others (within reason of course).

      What I meant was that I disagree with using ad blockers when listening to Spotify because that is how Spotify receives revenue. Or pirating music/movies/games/etc. I'm not judging anyone that does those things or anything. I dont care. And what I said should certainly not extend to me wanting people to die.
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      I see, I find the adblocker I use only works sometimes anyway, I keep forgetting to try a new one out.
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      Old February 20th, 2018 (10:45 PM).
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        But in all seriousness, ads are kinda used for their advertising and all. I mean, there are methods to do it, but even then I don't think Saws would use Spotify enough or be enough of advertising hassle to put them out of business.

        I wonder when youtube will stop trying to kill itself and telling peeps to stay back as it continues to just be blegh. (I mean, it does have entertaining value, but a lot of issues do arise)

        I wonder if anyone else here has tried youtube or made a channel, besides Herolink?
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        Old February 21st, 2018 (12:06 AM).
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        I'm just upset I can't listen to rammstein songs on yt anymore
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        Old February 21st, 2018 (1:31 AM).
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        the poor multibillion dollar companies who exist outside of ethical constraints :( how will they survive with my own flawed ethics :(
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        Old February 21st, 2018 (2:09 PM).
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        But in all seriousness, ads are kinda used for their advertising and all. I mean, there are methods to do it, but even then I don't think Saws would use Spotify enough or be enough of advertising hassle to put them out of business.

        I wonder when youtube will stop trying to kill itself and telling peeps to stay back as it continues to just be blegh. (I mean, it does have entertaining value, but a lot of issues do arise)

        I wonder if anyone else here has tried youtube or made a channel, besides Herolink?
        I think Kikaito Plush has a youtube channeling with animation stuff if I'm not mistaken.

        No doubt an individual blocking ads cant exactly put an entire - as Her mentioned - multibillion dollar corporation. Nevertheless, the wealth of a business does not justify unethical behavior. Not that its really that unethical. I mean, its really just a few bucks realistically. I dont think its possible to make an ethical or moral judgement over a few bucks.
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        Old February 22nd, 2018 (5:17 AM).
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        I know my thing is I tend to put up an adblocker and then forget I have it running, so unless a site puts up a notice about whitelisting I always forget to do so. :X

        In regards to Spotify, while I've tried the adblocker trick myself and eventually stopped because I felt weird doing so, I'm also surprised they let you get away with it in the first place. There's another music service I use from time to time (that's also more website-based, as far as I know, so that might be the difference) where you have to have your adblocker off or they won't even play music for you until you do.
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        Old February 22nd, 2018 (7:40 AM).
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        There's another music service I use from time to time (that's also more website-based, as far as I know, so that might be the difference) where you have to have your adblocker off or they won't even play music for you until you do.
        I know Slacker does that
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        Old February 22nd, 2018 (9:23 AM).
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        im glad i get to avoid this entire ordeal by receiving spotify premium for free as a perk for working at starbucks
        What
        That's an awesome benefit :D

        I've paid for spotify premium for what, a decade now? Since its inception, basically. Best subscription I've made.
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        Old February 22nd, 2018 (1:14 PM).
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        I'm a free user, but I don't mind the ads. At least I can support the platform without paying.
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        Old February 22nd, 2018 (1:38 PM).
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          this thread's title is just kinda omnious now
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          Old February 22nd, 2018 (3:37 PM). Edited February 22nd, 2018 by Desox.
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            I just install an adblocker and whitelist sites/sections I frecuent most. Which now reminds me I have to go do so as I reinstalled the OS three days ago.

            I see no problem in hearing one ad in between my songs (well, when I used free) , tho I don't see any problem in Saws blocking them. The marginal gain they'd make from Saws were the model to be on a user basis is ridiculously small.

            Now, what I surely don't agree about is what Hulu does. If you don't know you get ads even if you pay for one of the tiers. And it's even more assholish as Disney and Fox (now just Disney) are pulling everything from Netflix and putting it in Hulu, so I'm paying for ads and basically favouring a closed olygopoly in the process. And they manage to break the adblocking because they stream the ads from their servers.
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            this thread's title is just kinda omnious now
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