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Old June 5th, 2012 (1:15 AM). Edited June 7th, 2012 by Ninjagon.
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    Ok. So i was looking over my team, and i think it needs some tending to.


    Un-updated Team:
    Spoiler:
    Lead:

    Tyranitar @ Leftovers
    Ability: Unnerve
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 232 HP 24 Atk 252 Spd
    Moves:
    - Crunch
    - Stealth Rocks
    - Pursuit
    - Superpower

    Sets up SR and takes hits while dishing out Crunch STAB. Superpower for coverage.

    Baton Passer:

    Smeargle @ Focus Sash
    Ability: Own Tempo
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 252 HP 4 Def 252 Spe
    Moves:
    - Spore
    - Agility
    - Swords Dance
    - Baton Pass

    Gets up speed and attack so can Baton Pass to Haxorus to sweep.

    Physical Sweeper:

    Haxorus @ Lum Berry
    Ability: Mold Breaker
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 252 Atk 4 Def 252 HP
    Moves:
    - Outrage
    - Brick Break
    - Earthquake
    - Dragon Claw

    Destroys anything that opposes it. Outrage for STAB.

    Special Sweeper:

    Hydreigon @ Choice Scarf
    Ability: Levitate
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 252 SAtk 4 HP 252 Spe
    Moves:
    - Draco Meteor
    - Dark Pulse
    - Fire Blast
    - Focus Blast

    Really Fast and strong Dark Pulse for good STAB. Synergy with Starmie (takes hits from dark types)

    Rapid Spinner:

    Starmie @ Light Clay
    Ability: Natural Cure
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 252 SAtk 4 HP 252 Spe
    Moves:
    - Reflect
    - Light Screen
    - Hydro Pump
    - Rapid Spin

    Gets up Reflect and Light Screen, Hydro Pump for STAB.

    Special Wall:

    Skarmory @ Leftovers
    Ability: Sturdy
    Nature: Careful
    EVs: 252 HP / 232 SpD / 24 Spe
    Moves:
    - Roost
    - Whirlwind
    - Taunt
    - Brave Bird

    Needed something to fill in the last slot and a good wall. Brave Bird
    for STAB.


    Updated Team:
    Spoiler:
    Tyranitar @ Leftovers
    Ability: Sand Stream
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 252 HP 4 Atk 252 Spd
    Moves:
    - Crunch
    - Stealth Rocks
    - Pursuit
    - Superpower

    Sets up SR and takes hits while dishing out Crunch STAB. Superpower for coverage.

    Wall:

    Heatran @ Leftovers
    Ability: Flash Fire
    Nature: Calm
    EVs: 248 HP/252 SDef/8 Spe
    Moves:
    - Lava Plume
    - Roar
    - Protect
    - Toxic

    Phazer, provides much needed support to my team (defensive-wise)

    Special Sweeper:

    Virizion @ Life Orb
    Ability: Justified
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 4 HP 252 SAtk 252 Spe
    Moves:
    - Calm Mind
    - Giga Drain
    - Focus Blast
    - Hidden Power Ice

    CM's and then proceeds to sweep.

    Physical Sweeper:

    Haxorus @ Lum Berry
    Ability: Mold Breaker
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 252 Atk 4 Def 252 HP
    Moves:
    - Outrage
    - Brick Break
    - Earthquake
    - Dragon Dance

    DD Destroys anything that opposes it. Outrage for STAB.

    Rapid Spinner:

    Starmie @ Choice Specs
    Ability: Natural Cure
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 252 SAtk 4 HP 252 Spe
    Moves:
    - Trick
    - Rapid Spin
    - Scald
    - Ice Beam/Thunderbolt

    Great synergy w/ Heatran (i.e. takes water/fighting type moves intended for him) (i.e. Heatran takes Dark/Grass). Also works well on team.

    Special Wall:

    Skarmory @ Leftovers
    Ability: Sturdy
    Nature: Careful
    EVs: 252 HP / 232 SpD / 24 Spe
    Moves:
    - Roost
    - Whirlwind
    - Taunt
    - Brave Bird

    Needed something to fill in the last slot and a good wall. Brave Bird
    for STAB.


    Constructive Criticism wanted and i am prepared to make drastic changes.
    (Note that this is a WiFi Team And is all non-cheated)
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    Old June 5th, 2012 (3:11 AM).
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    For Tyranitar, Unnerve is illegal with Superpower due to the former being a DW ability and the latter being a Gen IV tutor move. Use Sandstream as your ability even though it may hinder everyone else. Use this EV spread to make the most out of Tyranitar's great special bulk: 252 HP/4 Atk/252 SDef.

    Haxorus can learn Dragon Dance and Swords Dance to boost its Attack/Speed, so Smeargle is totally unnecessary. Replace Dragon Claw with either set-up move in that case.

    In Smeargle's place, you can use Virizion because of its good defensive synergy with Tyranitar:
    -Calm Mind
    -Giga Drain
    -Focus Blast
    -Hidden Power (Ice/Rock)
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Leftovers/Life Orb

    or
    -Swords Dance
    -Leaf Blade
    -Close Combat
    -Stone Edge/Hidden Power (Ice)
    Nature: Jolly
    EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
    Item: Leftovers/Life Orb

    or
    -Work Up
    -Close Combat
    -Giga Drain
    -Stone Edge/Hidden Power (Ice)
    Nature: Hasty/Naive
    EVs: 104 Atk/152 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb

    or
    -Reflect
    -Light Screen
    -Taunt
    -Giga Drain/Close Combat
    Nature: Timid/Jolly
    EVs: 252 HP/4 Def/252 Spe
    Item: Light Clay

    While Hydreigon is a good special sweeper in its own right, it shares weaknesses with Tyranitar and Haxorus. Use Heatran instead. Even though it has the same Ground/Fighting weaknesses as Tyranitar, it covers the weaknesses of Virizion and Haxorus:
    -Lava Plume
    -Roar
    -Protect
    -Toxic/Will-o-Wisp
    Nature: Calm
    EVs: 248 HP/252 SDef/8 Spe
    Item: Leftovers

    or
    -Fire Blast
    -Earth Power
    -Hidden Power (Ice)
    -Substitute/Flame Charge/Taunt
    Nature: Modest/Timid
    EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb/Air Balloon

    Starmie is doing too much at once. Use Forretress as your Rapid Spinner:
    -Spikes
    -Toxic Spikes
    -Rapid Spin
    -Gyro Ball/Earthquake/Volt Switch
    Nature: Relaxed
    EVs: 252 HP/176 Def/80 SDef
    Item: Leftovers/Shed Shell
    Ability: Sturdy

    If you want to keep Starmie, use this set. This set uses its offensive Rapid Spinning capabilities to the fullest:
    -Hydro Pump
    -Thunderbolt
    -Ice Beam
    -Rapid Spin
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Leftovers/Life Orb
    Ability: Natural Cure
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    Old June 5th, 2012 (4:28 AM). Edited June 5th, 2012 by Musica.
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      You can utilize Trick on Starmie so it can cripple boosting/stalling Pokemon like SD Gliscor, BU Breloom, Chansey/Blissey, and many more.

      Starmie @ Choice Scarf/Specs
      252 SpA / 252 Spe
      Timid - Natural Cure
      ~Trick
      ~Rapid Spin
      ~Scald
      ~Ice Beam/Thunderbolt

      If Starmie gets a hold of Toxic or Flame Orb, it is fine because you have Natural Cure to take care of it. You can also give T/F Orb to other Pokemon who will not enjoy it. With Starmie's awesome Speed Stat, it is sure to use a move first bar Choice Scarf user with base 115 Speed above. Reflect and Lightscreen won't work well with Starmie because it is too frail. It can only set up either of one in most situations.

      Example of what Trick-mie can do.

      Spoiler:
      Battle between Musica and Haxor98 started!

      Tier: Wifi OU
      Mode: Singles
      Variation: +19, -13
      Rule: Rated
      Rule: Sleep Clause
      Rule: Species Clause
      Rule: Wifi Battle

      Musica sent out Starmie!
      Haxor98 sent out Gliscor!

      Start of turn 1
      Starmie used Trick!
      Starmie switched items with Haxor98's Gliscor!
      Starmie obtained one Toxic Orb!
      Haxor98's Gliscor obtained one Choice Scarf!

      Haxor98's Gliscor used Substitute!
      Haxor98's Gliscor made a substitute!

      Starmie's Toxic Orb activated!
      Starmie was badly poisoned!

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      Old June 6th, 2012 (1:15 AM). Edited June 6th, 2012 by Ninjagon.
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        Quote:
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        For Tyranitar, Unnerve is illegal with Superpower due to the former being a DW ability and the latter being a Gen IV tutor move. Use Sandstream as your ability even though it may hinder everyone else. Use this EV spread to make the most out of Tyranitar's great special bulk: 252 HP/4 Atk/252 SDef.

        Haxorus can learn Dragon Dance and Swords Dance to boost its Attack/Speed, so Smeargle is totally unnecessary. Replace Dragon Claw with either set-up move in that case.

        In Smeargle's place, you can use Virizion because of its good defensive synergy with Tyranitar:
        -Calm Mind
        -Giga Drain
        -Focus Blast
        -Hidden Power (Ice/Rock)
        Nature: Timid
        EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
        Item: Leftovers/Life Orb

        or
        -Swords Dance
        -Leaf Blade
        -Close Combat
        -Stone Edge/Hidden Power (Ice)
        Nature: Jolly
        EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
        Item: Leftovers/Life Orb

        or
        -Work Up
        -Close Combat
        -Giga Drain
        -Stone Edge/Hidden Power (Ice)
        Nature: Hasty/Naive
        EVs: 104 Atk/152 SAtk/252 Spe
        Item: Life Orb

        or
        -Reflect
        -Light Screen
        -Taunt
        -Giga Drain/Close Combat
        Nature: Timid/Jolly
        EVs: 252 HP/4 Def/252 Spe
        Item: Light Clay

        While Hydreigon is a good special sweeper in its own right, it shares weaknesses with Tyranitar and Haxorus. Use Heatran instead. Even though it has the same Ground/Fighting weaknesses as Tyranitar, it covers the weaknesses of Virizion and Haxorus:
        -Lava Plume
        -Roar
        -Protect
        -Toxic/Will-o-Wisp
        Nature:this is a wifi team Calm
        EVs: 248 HP/252 SDef/8 Spe
        Item: Leftovers

        or
        -Fire Blast
        -Earth Power
        -Hidden Power (Ice)
        -Substitute/Flame Charge/Taunt
        Nature: Modest/Timid
        EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
        Item: Life Orb/Air Balloon

        Starmie is doing too much at once. Use Forretress as your Rapid Spinner:
        -Spikes
        -Toxic Spikes
        -Rapid Spin
        -Gyro Ball/Earthquake/Volt Switch
        Nature: Relaxed
        EVs: 252 HP/176 Def/80 SDef
        Item: Leftovers/Shed Shell
        Ability: Sturdy

        If you want to keep Starmie, use this set. This set uses its offensive Rapid Spinning capabilities to the fullest:
        -Hydro Pump
        -Thunderbolt
        -Ice Beam
        -Rapid Spin
        Nature: Timid
        EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
        Item: Leftovers/Life Orb
        Ability: Natural Cure
        Ok so ditch Smeargle and Hydreigon for Virizion and Heatran and change T-tar, got it.


        Quote:
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        Starmie @ Choice Scarf/Specs
        252 SpA / 252 Spe
        Timid - Natural Cure
        ~Trick
        ~Rapid Spin
        ~Scald
        ~Ice Beam/Thunderbolt
        This set seems the most promising.

        Anything else?

        BTW this is a wifi team
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        Old June 7th, 2012 (8:34 AM).
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          You can make heatran a physical wall. It can take care of something like mammoswine with ice shard. It survives EQ and can roar it out too.
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          Old June 7th, 2012 (6:08 PM).
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          You can make heatran a physical wall. It can take care of something like mammoswine with ice shard. It survives EQ and can roar it out too.
          Um sorry but wtf. It doesn't survive an EQ, totally aside from the fact that is infact a horrible switch into Mamoswine/physical wall lol...
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          Old June 8th, 2012 (5:39 AM). Edited June 8th, 2012 by Musica.
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            I meant Air Balloon Heatran vs. a Scarfed/Banded Mamoswine using EQ. If it uses Ice Shard, Heatran would be able to wall it. Was too lazy typing, sorry. Defensive Heatran helped me out taking care of it in most cases.
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            Old June 14th, 2012 (7:01 AM).
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              I like your team, and Tyranitar is a great Tank. The only thing i will say is i have had some very bad experience with sand stream on a non-weather based team. I would suggest changing T-tar or even better keep him and swap out a few others. Really you could make great use of the Sand Stream. Skarmory and Heatran are naturally unaffected. If you simply took out one poke and replaced it with Hippowdon who is also slightly bulky you would have two Sand Streamers as well as two that benefit from it and four out of six would be unhurt by it. Other Bulky pokes to consider would be Mamoswine, Scizor, or Metagross. Hope i helped.
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              Old June 16th, 2012 (3:11 AM).
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                I might put it in Scizor... It has STAB Priority move; Bullet Punch, along with a Life Orb and you have areal threat there... I will consider it.
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                Old June 16th, 2012 (7:44 AM).
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                  You have alot of special walls on the team, and skarmory probably isnt that great of one. If I were you I would switch skarmory to a physical wall to get better synergy with the others. If you have too many special walls a fast physical poke could wreck this team.
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                  Old June 16th, 2012 (11:27 AM).
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                    Sorta looks like you're going for a balanced team. At the moment, Haxorus is definitely the weak link. I'd drop haxorus for something like rotom-w. With rotom-w, you can easily handle all rain teams in combination with virizion. Another interesting thing would be to try your hand at a choice band tyranitar and run stealth rock on heatran. Just some food for thought, quick rate, gl!
                     
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