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Old August 17th, 2007 (7:40 AM).
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I want to have this EV set for my Torterra


EVs: 252 HP / 148 Atk / 108 Def


but the problem is normally I max out the first two stats and give the third 4 EV’s.

So my questions are :
- If I have a Pokemon holding a Macho Brace how many battles against Pokemon that give +2 EV points would I need to get 149 Atk?
- If I have a Pokemon holding a Macho Brace how many battles against Pokemon that give +2 EV points would I need to get 108 Def?
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Old August 17th, 2007 (9:25 AM).
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It's all simple math. =/

Macho Brace doubles all EVs gained. So you'd get +4 EVs per battle. Divide the number of EVs you want by 4. Not that hard.
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Old August 17th, 2007 (10:41 AM).
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So 37 for attack and 27 Defence?
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Old August 17th, 2007 (11:46 PM).
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Can anyone offer me some more help on this?
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Old August 18th, 2007 (12:06 AM).
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Just use poketch app # 11 to count the EV gain from each battle.
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Old August 18th, 2007 (2:17 AM).
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But I don't know how many I need?
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Old August 18th, 2007 (2:29 AM).
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?? You just posted the EV spread. If you kill a gastrodon and ur holding a macho brace, add 4. Gastrodon normally gives 2 EVs for HP and with the macho brace its doubled to 4..
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Old August 18th, 2007 (6:50 AM).
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- If I have a Pokemon holding a Macho Brace how many battles against Pokemon that give +2 EV points would I need to get 149 Atk?
- If I have a Pokemon holding a Macho Brace how many battles against Pokemon that give +2 EV points would I need to get 108 Def?
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Old August 18th, 2007 (7:03 AM).
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Math it up. 4 EVs per battle, X battles, 108 EVs total. 108/4=27.
In the same way, 4 EVs per battle, X Battles, 148 EVs total. 148/4=37.

27 battles for defense, 37 for attack.

(I know you keep saying 149 instead of 148, but that wouldn't add up. I used the value from your first post.)
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Old August 18th, 2007 (9:54 AM).
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Thank you for the help Bishopk?

This is without vitemins correct?
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Old August 18th, 2007 (11:01 AM).
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Right. With 10 vitamins, it's 2 battles for Defense, and 12 for Attack.
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Old August 18th, 2007 (11:08 AM).
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And you are 100% certain on this? I don't mean to question you it's just taken a while to get my Torterra to this point.
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Old August 18th, 2007 (12:37 PM).
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Each Vitamin gives 10 EVs in that stat, meaning that by using the maximum of 10 Vitamins, you will gain 100 EVs. If each battle you gain 4 EVs, this cuts out 25 battles (100/4).
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for example.. if i wanted 252 satk, 252 spd, 4 hp on gengar i would do this.

golduck gives 2 satk evs. so to get 152 satk evs, battle it 38 times with the macho brace, or 78 times without the macho brace. then use 10 calcium to get 252 satk evs.

poliwhirl gives 2 spd evs. so to get 152 spd evs, battle it 38 times holding the macho brace, or 78 times without the macho brace.

finally.. wooper gives 1 hp ev. so to get 4 hp evs, battle it 2 times with the macho brace, or 4 times without. therefore giving you a gengar with 252 satk, 252 spd, 4 hp evs. i hope this example helped you to understand effort values.
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Old August 18th, 2007 (11:55 PM).
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I understand that but I want an EV spread of 252 HP / 148 Atk / 108 Def.
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Old August 19th, 2007 (1:21 AM).
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Then just EV train it for that. The math is very simple, so you shouldn't have a problem figuring it out. Vitamins and the macho brace help speed things up...A LOT.
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Old August 19th, 2007 (6:54 AM).
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I gave you the math, Bossman gave you an example (which I found to be a little confusing, if we already gave him the math, he doesn't need an example, does he?)
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Old August 22nd, 2007 (10:14 AM).
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if I give a pokemon 10 vitiimins for both stats?

- If I have a Pokemon holding a Macho Brace how many battles against Pokemon that give +2 EV points would I need to get 149 Def?
- If I have a Pokemon holding a Macho Brace how many battles against Pokemon that give +2 EV points would I need to get 108 SDef?
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Old August 23rd, 2007 (6:06 AM).
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umm its simple math and i think people already did some examples. not that hard =/
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This thread AGAIN??? But yes, it is simple math.
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