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Old August 17th, 2007 (1:57 PM). Edited August 17th, 2007 by ScizorRules.
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Okay, I'm pretty sure I'm done this time. Luckily, all my guys have good IVs. Still a little fickle about my sixth Pokemon, but I think I'm pretty satisfied with Slowbro. Fixes are welcome if they are viable.



Scope Lens/Lax Incense
Modest Nature
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 SP.ATK/252 SPD/4 HP
Hypnosis
Shadow Ball
Thunderbolt
Focus Blast


Leftovers
Impish Nature
Ability: Swarm
EVs: 252 HP/252 DEF/4 ATK
Swords Dance
X Scissor
Agility
Baton Pass



Leftovers
Calm Nature
Ability: Marvel Scale
EVs: 252 HP/252 SP.DEF/4 SP.ATK
Ice Beam
Surf
Rest
Sleep Talk



Choice Band
Adamant Nature
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 60 HP/252 ATK/196 DEF
Earthquake
Stone Edge
Payback
Avalance



Choice Band
Adamant Nature
Ability: Blaze
EVs: 252 ATK/252 SPD/4 SP.ATK
Close Combat
Flare Blitz
Thunder Punch/Earthquake (thinking Thunderpunch might be better)
U-Turn



Leftovers
Calm Nature
Ability: Own Tempo
EVs: 252 HP/252 DEF/4 SP.ATK
Calm Mind
Slack Off
Psychic
Surf
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Gengar looks good, though I normall y prefer focus sashing and Destiny bond over Hypnosis.

Not too sure about Scizor; seems kind of a weird spread and nature for a Baton passer.

Milotic looks good.

Give Tyranitar Dragon Dance over Ice Fang; The fangs are horrible.

Infernape looks good, I'd say get rid of U-turn for Earthquake, but that's just me.

Slowbro looks good; except it doesn't get Rain Dish.
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Old August 17th, 2007 (4:57 PM).
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Gengar looks good, though I normall y prefer focus sashing and Destiny bond over Hypnosis.

Not too sure about Scizor; seems kind of a weird spread and nature for a Baton passer.

Milotic looks good.

Give Tyranitar Dragon Dance over Ice Fang; The fangs are horrible.

Infernape looks good, I'd say get rid of U-turn for Earthquake, but that's just me.

Slowbro looks good; except it doesn't get Rain Dish.
How is Scizor's spread weird? I'm ensuring his durability while he ups the stats.

I highly disagree on the fangs. If you use them smart like any other elemental moves, they are very good. Ice Fang is generally a counter move to grass and whatnot. With it's probability of freezing and Tyranitar's sky-high Attack power (it's about 400), I've found it highly useful.

Hypnosis can single handedly wreck a whole party depending on the situation. Destiny Bond is promoting the death of your own Pokemon or is used as a simple stall tactic. I don't like it too much.

I considered Earthquake and use it for Infernape for a while, but U-Turn is the perfect counter to Psychic types.


As for Rain Dish, my bad. It's corrected. I copied and pasted a lot of text, so I had to change some things. I just missed that. thanks.
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Well I mean it's weird to me; I'd never really thought of a spread like that on a Scizor. Though that could jsut be that I always use my Scizor[s] as Reversallers or Sweepers; I prefer to leave the passing to Scyther cause he's faster.

Okay, maybe it was opinion when I was talking about the fangs, but I just don't like the low power with that accuracy; doesn't seem worth it to me. If they maybe upped it to 100 Accuracy or raised it's power to say 75 or 80 then I might think different of then. Though TTar doesn't seem to be the best user of them, even if he has that massive attack stat; how's he going to hit if he dies first? Though I suppose with the those defenses he can take the hit, and the 50% Sp.Def boost from Sandstorm does help a lot.

Hypnosis can't really wreck a whole team if Sleep Clause is on; which it normally should be. Though It can mess up a team if you get luck enough to get it to hit all the time and KO the Pokemon before it wakes up. I use Destiny bond as a kind of precaution. If I get hit when I'm sweeping, Focus Sash will keep me at 1, then I can proceed to Destiny Bond; or continue to sweep.

U-turn is a good counter to Psychic types, though I would jsut switch to TTar as it can take the hit with it being Dark AND the Sandstorm boost, then STAB Crunch back. But you can U-turn if you want. Maybe U-turn to Ttar. XD
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Well I mean it's weird to me; I'd never really thought of a spread like that on a Scizor. Though that could jsut be that I always use my Scizor[s] as Reversallers or Sweepers; I prefer to leave the passing to Scyther cause he's faster.

Okay, maybe it was opinion when I was talking about the fangs, but I just don't like the low power with that accuracy; doesn't seem worth it to me. If they maybe upped it to 100 Accuracy or raised it's power to say 75 or 80 then I might think different of then. Though TTar doesn't seem to be the best user of them, even if he has that massive attack stat; how's he going to hit if he dies first? Though I suppose with the those defenses he can take the hit, and the 50% Sp.Def boost from Sandstorm does help a lot.

Hypnosis can't really wreck a whole team if Sleep Clause is on; which it normally should be. Though It can mess up a team if you get luck enough to get it to hit all the time and KO the Pokemon before it wakes up. I use Destiny bond as a kind of precaution. If I get hit when I'm sweeping, Focus Sash will keep me at 1, then I can proceed to Destiny Bond; or continue to sweep.

U-turn is a good counter to Psychic types, though I would jsut switch to TTar as it can take the hit with it being Dark AND the Sandstorm boost, then STAB Crunch back. But you can U-turn if you want. Maybe U-turn to Ttar. XD
Hypnosis is meant as more of a disabler than anything else. I tend to try to put just about everything to sleep until I miss once (depending on what strategy I'm incoprorating), and then it's a lot easier to take a team down. My Gengar once took down an entire (well trained) team almost single-handedly.
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Okay, I'm pretty sure I'm done this time. Luckily, all my guys have good IVs. Still a little fickle about my sixth Pokemon, but I think I'm pretty satisfied with Slowbro. Fixes are welcome if they are viable.



Wide Lens
Modest Nature
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 SP.ATK/252 SPD/4 HP
Hypnosis
Shadow Ball
Thunderbolt
Focus Blast

Psychic is a horrible attack type. It should only be used on pokemon with small movepool.


Leftovers
Impish Nature
Ability: Swarm
EVs: 252 HP/252 DEF/4 ATK
Swords Dance
X Scissor
Agility
Baton Pass

yea.


Burn Orb
Bold Nature
Ability: Marvel Scale
EVs: 252 HP/ 80 DEF/ 40 SP. DEF/ 132 SP. ATK
Ice Beam
Surf
Recover
Hypnosis

K. Burn Orb with recover works a lot better than Restalk Milotic.


Leftovers/Life Orb
Adamant Nature
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 60 HP/252 ATK/196 DEF
Earthquake
Stone Edge
Crunch/Payback
Avalanche

Avalanche covers Grass and it is more powerful than Ice Fang when used after it is attacked.


Life Orb
Adamant Nature
Ability: Blaze
EVs: 252 ATK/252 SPD/4 SP.ATK
Close Combat
Overheat
Thunderpunch
Earthquake

Overheat is the only special so it won't hurt.



Leftovers
Calm Nature
Ability: Own Tempo
EVs: 252 HP/252 DEF/4 SP.ATK
Calm Mind
Slack Off
Ice Beam
Surf

Again, never use Psychic attacks
Fixes in Bold, hope it helps XDD
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Earthquake
Stone Edge
Payback/Crunch
Avalanche

Avalanche and Payback power will be double if Tyranitar gets attack in this turn and since Tyranitar is slow it's works good on him.(Crunch is an other option to use).You won't be needing Dragon Dance since your Tyranitar is holding a Choice Band.


Close Combat
Flare Blitz/Overheat
Thunder Punch
Earthquake/Stone Edge

Well I wish I could give advise to the other pkmn moves you have there but I'm to lazy to check.
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Old August 17th, 2007 (9:10 PM).
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Earthquake
Stone Edge
Payback/Crunch
Avalanche

Avalanche and Payback power will be double if Tyranitar gets attack in this turn and since Tyranitar is slow it's works good on him.(Crunch is an other option to use).You won't be needing Dragon Dance since your Tyranitar is holding a Choice Band.
Now that I think about it, that makes a lot of sense. I think I may make those changes. Thanks.
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Old August 17th, 2007 (9:12 PM).
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Your Team doesn't have many weaknesses either. Good job! You have the roles filled and it looks like it'll be a very good team. Nice work.
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Old August 17th, 2007 (9:31 PM).
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Your Team doesn't have many weaknesses either. Good job! You have the roles filled and it looks like it'll be a very good team. Nice work.
Thanks. The Wi-Fi battles I'm playing are going smoothly as well, except games where I get completely robbed (ever miss 3 straight attacks and get hit on the first try by a one-hit K.O. move? >_>). I've managed to kill 8 straight Pokemon using nothing but Infernape (2 complete battles and 2 Pokemon another one O_O). Scizor is an excellent setup for T-tar. But sometimes he faces a Fire or Fighting type first in a battle, which sucks. And if he gets a status condition right away, he's become fairly useless. Luckily it doesn't happen TOO often.
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Old August 17th, 2007 (9:50 PM).
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I like the team but I think the guys above gave the info. And i agree that you have to keep all weakness covered :) so good spread ya got here. A+ in my book :p
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Judging on your results, 9/10 (no team is perfect, right) but very good! All the roles are covered...All you have to do is kick butt on Wi-Fi. Nice work!
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Old August 17th, 2007 (10:05 PM).
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Fixes in Bold, hope it helps XDD
Unfortunately, although I respect your fixes, I disagree highly with many of them. First off, Psychic is needed for fighting types and I have little to nothing against them. I could maybe drop Psychic from Gengar, but not as much from Slowbro (although you'd see Pyschic from Slowbro as more more predictable a move than Psychic from Gengar).

As far as Milotic. Milotic is a wall, so that spread makes little sense to me. And with the traditional moveset, defense is covered, no need to waste any EVs in defense. This type of Milotic is far easier to conduct and make efficient, IMO. Recover works nice and so does Hypnosis, but I like the better accuracy and annoyance my current Milotic possesses.

As far as Infernape. Maybe you've underestimated U-Turn's ability to handle Psychic types? It also makes hima fiarly safe starter. And since Flare Blitz does the job at such a high amount of damage, why should I bother with Overheat? It may have 140 atk, but Flare Blitz is likely going to end up doing more anyway since his ATK is so high (and Sp. ATK is NOT).


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I think overheat was for skarmbliss killing.
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Actually, you may want to consider dropping Psychic on Gengar for Energy Ball to handle Swampert, and other bulky waters. Keep Psychic on Slowbro though.
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Actually, you may want to consider dropping Psychic on Gengar for Energy Ball to handle Swampert, and other bulky waters. Keep Psychic on Slowbro though.
I suppose I could, but I'm now at a dilemma for what 4th move to have over Psychic now. I already have Thunderbolt so I can handle waters, and my SP.ATK at this point (damn close to 400) should be enough to handle the likes of Swampert, I think. ATM, I'm more hard pressed to give Gengar Focus Blast at this point.
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Gengar takes care of darks like ttar that way. Focus blast is the best option IMO.
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Gengar takes care of darks like ttar that way. Focus blast is the best option IMO.
Done. Yeah, i think I had Focus Blast on my old Gengar and forgot it with this one. It's not like anyone's gonna let a fighting type stay in Gengar's sight :P
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Okay, any more questions. I'll be up till 4, so I'm ready when you are.
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eh, Avalanche with Choice Band isn't a great combo. I'd give if a Life Orb, or Lefties/Expert Belt
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eh, Avalanche with Choice Band isn't a great combo. I'd give if a Life Orb, or Lefties/Expert Belt
What do you mean? No move is necessarily a "good combo" with Choice Band. It ups his attack. If I need a new attack, I switch out, simple as that.
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For starters, Psychic/Dark/Ground would own your team. I'm not going to rate your team but, imo don't lead with gengar. maybe scizor or even choose a new pokemon. Good Luck !
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For starters, Psychic/Dark/Ground would own your team. I'm not going to rate your team but, imo don't lead with gengar. maybe scizor or even choose a new pokemon. Good Luck !
Yeha, but no pokemon carry those tyoes altogether, and Scizorules' pokemon counter many of them. While that statement is true, it is awful misleading. This team is defensively rock-solid.
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sorry just a quick question for BP scizor dont u need sp def just incase? or are we talking about physical wall here?
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Scizor's base stats defensively

HP-70
D-100
SD-70

Physical wall BPer. It can't take special blows...at all. Put EVs in D and HP to live.
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