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Old August 18th, 2007 (12:17 PM).
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which of these two would be best used with this team:

Weavile @life orb (physical sweeper)
jolly: 252 atk, 252 spd, 6 hp
night slash
ice punch
brick break
aerial ace

[email protected]/kings rock (id use kings rock but then ill repeatedly be called n00b. xD)
(annoyer/semi-sweeper)
serene grace
Bold: 252spatk 252 spd 4 hp
air slash
aura sphere
thunder wave
roost

Gengar @ Wide Lens (special sweeper)
Timid
252 SAtk/252 Spd/4 Hp
Hypnosis
Shadow Ball
Focus Blast
Energy Ball

[email protected] orb (sponge)
Bold: 252hp 84def 88 sp def 80 sp atk
hypnosis
recover
ice beam
surf

Rhyperior @leftovers (tank)
adamant: 252hp 172 def 80attack
stone edge
EQ
Megahorn
substitute

now for the gliscor choices:

Gliscor (done)@leftovers (physical wall/bper)
Impish: 252 def. 252 spd 6. sp def
swords dance
agility
Baton Pass
EQ/thunder fang/ice fang

Gliscor (done)@leftovers (physical wall/SR'er)
Impish: 252 def. 252 spd 6. atk
Roost
Aerial Ace
Earthquake
Stealth Rock

or what if i implemented torment on gliscor to force a switch of a choice item holding pkmn
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Old August 18th, 2007 (12:20 PM).
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seconds set, you need some sr and hera stopping power.
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Old August 18th, 2007 (12:22 PM).
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thanks. togekiss also serves as a hera stopper as well. only prob w/ gliscor is i definately need to avoid weavile.
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Old August 18th, 2007 (2:25 PM).
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Ah Gliscor :\

Well, just like Ancientwing said, go with the second set if you just want a simple wall.

But if you NEED the first set Gliscor to speed up Rhyperior a bit so it can wreck havoc. Just make sure it doesnt have Substitute :D
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Old August 18th, 2007 (2:58 PM).
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hmmm. ill make one of each. then test them to figure it out
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Old August 18th, 2007 (3:46 PM).
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EVs: 252 HP/ 80 ATK/ 172 DEF

Stone edge
Earthquake
Stealth Rock
U-turn/Toxic

Stone edge is already more powerful than Stabbed Aerial Ace. the Earthslide combo provides more coverage on types.

Its simple. Stealth Rock then U-turn to switch in to a Roarer/Whirlwinder.

Gliscor should replace Rhyperior. It's a decent physical tank. And then put in a durable, fast pokemon with Roar/Whirlwind. Or a Leech Seeder, Swaggerer, or an attracter. Anything to force switches, Yawn in particular.
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Old August 18th, 2007 (5:42 PM).
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interesting...indeed. perhaps something htat knows torment to force switchouts on pkmn with choice items
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Old August 19th, 2007 (12:20 PM).
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No it wont work. Trick with Torment only forces one pokemon to switch.

Jolteon is fantastic. It has amazing speed and can Baton Pass too. It can also special sweep.
 

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