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Old August 19th, 2007 (7:19 PM). Edited August 28th, 2007 by Waffle-San.
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Yes here he is my beloved Feraligatr, I need suggestions. See the 11th psot in thread.

Feraligatr @Leftovers
Impish
EV's:Atk, Def and HP??(I like Samsons suggestion but I'm looking for another opinion)
Swords Dance/Dragon Dance
Ice Punch/Ice Fang
Waterfall
Earthquake/Crunch

See my post (11th in thread)

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Steelix @Leftovers
Nature: Relaxed
EV's:252 Def 156 HP, 100 Attack
Earthquake
Gyro Ball
Explosion
Ice Fang/Stone Edge/Toxic
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Old August 20th, 2007 (4:25 AM).
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Okay I have

Feraligatr @Choice Scarf
Adamant
EV's:252 ATK/ 172 HP/ 80 SPEED
Rock slide
Ice Punch
Waterfall/Aqua Tail
Earthquake

I'm pretty sure on the move set but i need help on everthing else. DD isn't enough, you could use Agility but I like Choice Scarf much better. Use the Earthslide combo, it covers a lot of ground

Steelix @Macho Brace
Nature Relaxed/Brave
EV's:252 Def/HP and maybe Attack
Earthquake
gyro Ball
Explosion/Toxic
Stone Edge

I'm stuck on the last move. I don't want it as a Stealth Rocker and theres Fang possibilities and Double Edge, Rest or something. Once again the Earthslider.
OK well here it is XDD...
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Old August 20th, 2007 (4:45 AM).
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the feraligatr looks fine to me. and roar is a popular choice on steelix
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Old August 20th, 2007 (4:48 AM).
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It may be popular but it isn't near effective.

Its one of the worst Stealth/Roarers around.
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Old August 20th, 2007 (2:59 PM).
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Ya I think I'm going to keep Feraligatr how it is, but thanks for a suggestion on the EV's. I ws only thinking Iron Tail for Steelix because its STABed and I'm a little uncomfortable using a randomed move, except with Steelix's horrible speed in the first place it shouldn't be much of a problem.

for Steelix I'll definately consider that but I'm not a huge fan of Stone Edge and I'd like to try a Fang on it, For maybe Experimental reasons. I think it could yet prove useful. Of course, with its defenses I could try Rest. I might stick with Stone Edge to. Unless I get 100% sold I think I'll try it ourt in some experimental battles.

Any more suggestions (I appriciate all).
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Old August 20th, 2007 (3:29 PM).
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Will this be a double or a single battle team?

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Okay I have

Feraligatr @ Choice Band/Leftovers/Enigma Berry
Impish Nature
EV's: 216 HP/184 DEF/108 ATK
Brick Break/Dragon Dance
Ice Punch
Waterfall
Earthquake/Crunch

feraligatr is quite bulky and should be used to take physical hits and shoot them right back at the foe. if you go with Choice Band, give it all attack moves. if you want it to have Dragon Dance, then give it Leftovers or Enigma Berry and replace brick break with Dragon Dance. believe or not, but he makes for an awesome starter.


Steelix @ Leftovers
Adamant/Impish/Brave/Relaxed
EV's: 252 HP/216 ATK/40 DEF
Earthquake
Iron Tail/Gyro Ball/Roar
Explosion
Stealth Rock

i personally prefer iron tail because steelix gets walled by other steel types anyway. if you don't have a counter for steel types, be sure to give it Roar.
good luck with your pokes.
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Will this be a double or a single battle team?

Jordan.
There part of a single battle team.

Thanks for the input everyone, I'm pretty sure I know what I'm going to do.
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Since the Op brought up the subject of a Steelix moveset, has anyone tried a sleep talking Steelix? I'm curious to see how it works out.
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Steelix @Macho Brace
Nature Relaxed/Brave
EV's:252 Def/HP and maybe Attack
Earthquake
Gyro Ball
Explosion/Toxic
Ice Fang

Well theres Ice fang
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Old August 27th, 2007 (1:14 PM). Edited August 27th, 2007 by Waffle-San.
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Feraligatr @ Choice Band/Leftovers/Enigma Berry
Impish Nature
EV's: 216 HP/184 DEF/108 ATK
Brick Break/Dragon Dance
Ice Punch
Waterfall
Earthquake/Crunch

feraligatr is quite bulky and should be used to take physical hits and shoot them right back at the foe. if you go with Choice Band, give it all attack moves. if you want it to have Dragon Dance, then give it Leftovers or Enigma Berry and replace brick break with Dragon Dance. believe or not, but he makes for an awesome starter.

Okay as I have recently found out that it is impossible to breed both DD and Ice Punch on to a Totodile, as I overlooked the fact that ONLY males can pass on Egg moves. Having said that and looking over Samsons Defensive geared EV spread, I'm thinking do I really need the speed boost from DD or not.

So i have to options

Feraligatr
Impish
Dragon Dance
Ice Fang
Waterfall
Earhtquake/Crunch etc. (i have SO mamy pokemon with Earthquake)

or

Swords Dance
Ice Punch
Waterfall
EQ/Crunch etc...

I like the Defensive EV set and Swords Dance would be more than enough for getting my Attack well over 300. But DD could help me out speed pokemon. I'm kinda leaning towards the Swords Dance set but It took me 74 eggs to get a Impish Totodile with DD and I don't want to do it again with Ice Punch but I will if I have to.

Also how badly do I need Earthquake, I have an Aerodactyl, Mamoswine, Steelix, Electivire and probabley others i'm forgetting about with it. (of course not all of those pokemon will be on the same team.)

All opinions will be appreciated.
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Old August 27th, 2007 (7:39 PM).
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I would go for the DD set. The speed boost would help it more than extra attack. And considering its weaknesses, you need Earthquake to cover electric.
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Old August 28th, 2007 (4:21 PM).
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I guess Earthquake helps with Electivire support, anyone else want to drop in?
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