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Old August 20th, 2007 (12:06 PM).
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First of all, this team is made for BT. Also, I'm looking for a third pokemon, and I'm considering Claydol. So yeah, this is my Battle tower team:

Weavile @ Focus Sash
Pressure
Jolly
6 HP/252 ATK/252 SPD
-Night Slash/Faint Attack
-Brick Break
-Ice Punch/Ice Shard
-Swords Dance

This is a common Swords Dance Weavile. Swords Dance on the first turn, and hang on with Focus Sash, then sweep. I just need help on deciding which is better for those two moves up there, that best suits the BT.

Breloom @ Toxic Orb
Poison Heal
Adamant
6 HP/252 ATK/252 SPD
-Spore
-Focus Punch
-Seed Bomb
-Stone Edge

Basic Spore-Puncher combo. Seed Bomb is for STAB, and Stone Edge is for flying types. Toxic Orb acts as Leftovers, since I have Poison Heal.

Claydol @ ???
Levitate
Bold
252 HP/114 DEF/144 SPD
-Reflect
-Earth Power
-Ice Beam
-Explosion

Pretty simple, I guess. This is a Physical wall for my team. I don't know which item to give though. Earth Power is for STAB, Ice Beam is for Dragons, and Reflect is for support. Any opinions?

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I guess this is it then. Looking for advice and changes to be made. Thanks in advance! =D
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Old August 20th, 2007 (12:15 PM).
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First of all, this team is made for BT. Also, I'm looking for a third pokemon, and I'm considering Claydol. So yeah, this is my Battle tower team:

Weavile @ Focus Sash
Pressure
Adamant
6 HP/252 ATK/252 SPD
-Night slash
-Brick Break
-Ice Punch
-Swords Dance

This is a common Swords Dance Weavile. Swords Dance on the first turn, and hang on with Focus Sash, then sweep. I just need help on deciding which is better for those two moves up there, that best suits the BT. They don't EV train Alakazams in BT so no worries.

Breloom @ Toxic Orb
Poison Heal
Adamant
6 HP/252 ATK/252 SPD
-Spore
-Brick Break/Sky Uppercut/Facade
-Seed Bomb
-Stone Edge

Basic Spore-Puncher combo. Seed Bomb is for STAB, and Stone Edge is for flying types. Toxic Orb acts as Leftovers, since I have Poison Heal.

Claydol @ ???
Levitate
Bold
252 HP/114 DEF/144 SPD
-Reflect
-Earth Power
-Ice Beam
-Explosion

Pretty simple, I guess. This is a Physical wall for my team. I don't know which item to give though. Earth Power is for STAB, Ice Beam is for Dragons, and Reflect is for support. Any opinions?

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I guess this is it then. Looking for advice and changes to be made. Thanks in advance! =D
2 Brick Breaks have the same power as one Focus Punch.

2 Sky uppercuts are Stronger than one Focus Punch.

My point is... Focus Punch sucks
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Old August 20th, 2007 (12:26 PM).
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Ah, well it's already too late for the Weavile. I trained it with Jolly already. And actually in the WiFi Battle Tower, people are much smarter. o.o

EDIT:: Also, I can't learn Spore and Sky Uppercut at the same time. It's impossible. o.O
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Old August 20th, 2007 (12:30 PM).
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WiFi, then jolly is good. I thought this was in game
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Old August 20th, 2007 (12:32 PM).
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Ah, I see... But yeah, you can't learn Sky Uppercut along with spore though. Should I use Brick Break then?
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Old August 20th, 2007 (12:48 PM).
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IT should be noted (at least in 3rd gen) that focus punch only takes up one turn. Otherwise, it would have no point.
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IT should be noted (at least in 3rd gen) that focus punch only takes up one turn. Otherwise, it would have no point.
It should also be noted that 99% percent of competitive battlers don't obsess over what they think is great in the 3rd Gen.

Focus Punch is great with Spore.

Faint Attack sucks.

Weavile likes Jolly with Punch and Adamant with Shard.
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It takes 2 turns. Charge up the first turn and strike the next.

Its very risky but Brickbreak/Sky uppercut take two turns to do same or more damage
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Old August 20th, 2007 (1:01 PM).
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It takes 2 turns. Charge up the first turn and strike the next.

Its very risky but Brickbreak/Sky uppercut take two turns to do same or more damage
No, it goes first, even b4 protect, to tighten its focus. After all pokemon attack, then it goes last on the same turn to inflict damage. Otherwise, focus punch would be like fly b/c you could switch out/in on it, but you can't.
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Old August 20th, 2007 (1:07 PM).
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Yeah, Focus Punch just seems like a two turn attack, when you really just use one. Common mistake.
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Old August 20th, 2007 (1:09 PM).
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That's why when used properly, it is a force *coughbreloomcough*

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Old August 20th, 2007 (1:11 PM).
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Interesting discussion. Thank guys for the advice. Also, are there any comments on the Claydol?
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Old August 20th, 2007 (5:56 PM).
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Your Claydol is pretty standard, however, I'm not sure why you didn't use all of your EVs.
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Old August 20th, 2007 (6:26 PM).
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Unless the first post was editted, all the EVs were used.

114
144
+252
510
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Old August 20th, 2007 (6:43 PM).
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Unless the first post was editted, all the EVs were used.

114
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Oh, I seriously misread that. >.<

This team is wrapping up quite nicely, though I will say you may want Light Screen over Reflect, as most of Claydol's threats are generally used as special sweepers.
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Grass, dark, ghost, ice, water, bug...lots of weaknesses, and shadow and energy ball attacks are common, so yeah, light screen.
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