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Old August 20th, 2007 (12:55 PM). Edited August 23rd, 2007 by Azonic.
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Trait: Sand Stream
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 ATK/ 172 HP/ 80 DEF
Avalanche
Stone Edge
Earthquake
Crunch

Its different since I gave it Avalanche, I thought that would be good on him since it covers Grass.

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Trait: Sturdy
Nature: Impish
EVs: 252 HP/80 ATK/ 172 DEF
Earthquake
Ice Shard
Rapid Spin
Stealth Rock

UU but his stats are really top of the line for physical walling/tanking.

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Nature: Bold
EVs: 252 HP/ 192 DEF/64 SATK
Surf
Icebeam
Hypnosis
Recover

Thanks to Smarties-chan, Flame Orb takes more damage than Restalk Milo

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Trait: Levitate
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 SATK/ 252 SPEED/ 4 HP
Shadowball
Hypnosis
Focus Blast
Thunderbolt

Special Sweeper pretty much.

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Trait: Serene Grace
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 SATK/172 SDEF/80 SPEED
Thunderwave
Aura Sphere
Air slash
Roost

Para-flincher, it can get really irritating sometimes.

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Trait: Volt Absorb
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 SATK/ 252 SPEED/ 4 HP
Thunder Wave
Thunderbolt
HP Ice
Yawn

Donphan switches in to this guy to Stealth-shuffle.

~ I realize I have a bit of a Grass weakness, but Togekiss counters greatly with Airslash/T-wave. Gengar also resists the Grass type, I may need to switch pokemon, but Grass types aren't too common.

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Old August 20th, 2007 (1:00 PM).
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About your grass weakness, two out of three pokemon (weak to grass) have moves to counter grass types, so it's cool. I recommend rapid spin on donphan.
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So I think I'll be taking out thunderfang then.
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Old August 20th, 2007 (1:05 PM).
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Really, your team looks pretty good. I'd give it a 9/10. You have plenty of electric-resists. Nice job.
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Old August 20th, 2007 (1:05 PM).
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Sleep Talk Milotic? Can be countered by Starmie, and such others.
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If starmie is a problem, mirror coat is an option.
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Old August 20th, 2007 (1:08 PM).
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Sleep Talk Milotic? Can be countered by Starmie, and such others.
There is Flame Orb Milotic.

But Flame Orb Milo will take more damage than Restalk, safely put.
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If starmie is a problem, mirror coat is an option.
Starmie's only a problem if you're asleep. =P
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Old August 20th, 2007 (1:12 PM).
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I'm a little hesitant on Choice Band-tar with Avalanche. Should I switch to Life Orb?
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Old August 20th, 2007 (1:17 PM).
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I would, but CBTar would okay. It's up to you. With CB, you can always switch out and choose a new move when you come back in.
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CB-tar might not want Avalanche though. It may run into slower pokemon.
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Old August 20th, 2007 (1:22 PM). Edited August 20th, 2007 by Sora_8920.
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Tyranitar @:Chople Berry/Leftovers/Passho Berry/Salac Berry/Choice Scarf
Trait: Sandstram
Adamant Nature
Pursuit (Because Tyranitar will cause a 100% Switch)
Thunder Fang
Substitute (With Salac Berry).
Earthquake (You already have the last two moves).

Donphan @:Leftovers/Passho Berry/Rindo Berry/Yache Berry/Ganlon Berry.
Trait: Sturdy
Impish/Bold/Relaxed Nature
Earthquake
Rapid Spin
Substitute (To activate Ganlon Berry)/Ice Shard
Srone Edge.

Togekiss @:Leftovers/Wacan Berry/Yache Berry/Apicot Berry/Charti Berry
Trait: Serene Grace
Calm Nature
Aura Sphere
Thunder Wave
Air Slash
Roost. Nope, no Substitute.

Jolteon @:Shuca Berry/Salac Berry
Trait: Volt Asorb
Timid Nature
Substitute
Baton Pass
Agility
Wish/Curse.

Gengar @:Leftovers/Payapa Berry
Trait: Levitate
Timid Nature
Thunderbolt
Focus Blast
Energy Ball/Will-o-Wisp
Ice Punch.
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Tyranitar: Focus Punch is a lot better for Choice band sets. If you're not good at predicting, I guess keep Avalanche.


Donphan: Not UU. Lol. It's BL if not OU. Ice Shard over Stone Edge, lefties instead of Life Orb. I'd go 160 Hp, 96 Atk, 252 Defense on Donphan. Ice Shard is obviously for the big dragons. 96 Atk will get you 300 Atk.

Milotic: Fine. I'd run 252 Hp, 192 Def, 64 Sp. Atk though. Will put you to just about 399 Defense with Marvel Scale activated and can still hit hard. Watch out for Vaporeons though. They wall Milotic's bad.


Gengar: Fine, Thunderbolt over Energy Ball for coverage.

Togekiss: Why put EVs into speed? It's obviously going to outspeed stuff once it thunder waves them, right? Pump some EVs into Togekiss's Sp. Def. It can take a special attack pretty good.


Jolteon: Nonono. Roar on Jolteon is bad. Roar always goes last, meaning you get a free hit on Jolteon. Use Yawn instead. Also, the only thing you're Baton Passing is a Substitute, which won't always stay around. Dugtrios aren't THAT common. Replace with Thunder Wave. Also, consider this guy as your starter. Sandstorm isn't needed right away. Using Yawn on their starter will force a switch for you to get in a free Thunder Wave.


Pretty decent team.
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Old August 20th, 2007 (1:27 PM). Edited August 20th, 2007 by Azonic.
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I'm planning to Stealth suffle with Jolteon and why with a Physical move on Gengar?

Pursuit doubles power when switching, but Crunch provides the same power and can be used at any given time.

o yea, and why does T-tar have 5 moves?

EDIT: this was to Itachi.

EDIT #2: Towlie, Ice Shard only gains up to 160 power, while most dragons mix in the flying type, that still brings Stone Edge up to 200.
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If you're stealth shuffling, use yawn. You don't want Jolteon to take any bad hits.

You use yawn. Then they don't want to be asleep, so they switch out. Predicting the switch out, you use Yawn again. You can set up a free sub as you go on, or whatever. So yea, you could keep Baton Pass and just use yawn to get free subs to pass too. Just don't use roar. Lol.
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Old August 20th, 2007 (1:33 PM).
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i'm gonna go Thunderwave/Yawn on it. Then HP Ice
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Old August 20th, 2007 (1:37 PM).
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Yea, but most Dragons outspeed you for Ice Shard. That's why it's there. Especially when you put in Stealth Rock Damage and you're up against a DDMence. Plus Stone Edge misses, which Donphan can't afford to miss.
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Old August 20th, 2007 (1:45 PM). Edited August 20th, 2007 by Azonic.
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The Earthslide combo is diverse in coverage. I'm not sure if I should give it up.

should I drop Rapid Spin for it?
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Think about what Rock is effective against:

Fire - Earthquake hits them worse than Stone Edge
Flying - Ice Shard super effective vs them.
Bug - Not a common type. Stone Edge doesn't hit Hera good anyways.
Ice - It's not going to even touch Weavile before it Ice punches it to death.

But don't take off Rapid spin. Donphan needs it.
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huh? i'm not sure if you guys have heard, but ground + ice covers everything except for Bronzong, who resists Stone Edge anyway. ice shard + earthquake has more coverage, but earthquake + stone edge causes more damage to the general OU pool.
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Ok, Stone Edge is out, Ice Shard is in.

I think I'll put Gengar with Wide Lens
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wtf? avalanche on tyranitar? is that good?
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wtf? avalanche on tyranitar? is that good?
Actually it is. If you're wondering it's good, why say it's bad (which you basically did. Avalance is fine on TTar, and eliminates grass types it's weak to.
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So these questions:

Gengar - Modest/Timid?

Donphan - Adamant/Impish?

Jolteon - Modest/Timid?
 

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