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Old August 20th, 2007 (1:10 PM). Edited August 20th, 2007 by BrainDamage.
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Weavile @life orb (physical sweeper)
jolly: 252 atk, 252 spd, 6 hp
night slash
ice punch
brick break
aerial ace

[email protected] (annoyer/semi-sweeper)
serene grace
Timid: 252spatk 252 spd 4 hp
air slash
aura sphere
thunder wave
roost

[email protected] (special wall/rapid spinner)
calm: 214 sp.def. 252 hp 44 sp atk
rapid spin
Ice Beam
earth power
reflect/light screen

perhaps replace claydol with:
Hitmontop @leftovers
careful: 252 sp def. (what else)?????
rapid spin
mach punch/triple kick/close combat
aerial ace
stone edge/rock slide

Gengar @ Choice Specs (special sweeper)
Timid
252 SAtk/252 Spd/4 Hp
Hypnosis
Shadow Ball
Focus Blast
Energy Ball

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Bold: 240 hp 104def 88 sp def 72 sp atk
rest
sleep talk
ice beam
surf

Steelix @ macho brace (physical wall)
Relaxed
252 hp, 252 def.
stealth rock
toxic/???
EQ
gyro ball
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Old August 20th, 2007 (1:16 PM).
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Weavile @life orb (physical sweeper)
jolly: 252 atk, 252 spd, 6 hp
night slash
ice punch
brick break
aerial ace

Weavile looks good.

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serene grace
Timid: 252spatk 252 spd 4 hp
air slash
aura sphere
thunder wave
roost

kings Rock only if you can, if ur lucky enough. XDD its hax

[email protected] (special wall/rapid spinner)
calm: 214 sp.def. 252 hp 44 sp atk
Earth Power
Icebeam
Reflect/Toxic
LightScreen/Cosmic Power


Gengar @ Choice specs/life Orb
Timid
252 SAtk/252 Spd/4 Hp
Hypnosis
Shadow Ball
Focus Blast
Energy Ball/Thunderbolt

[email protected] (mixed wall)
Bold: 252 HP/ 80 SATK/ 172 DEF
rest
sleep talk
ice beam
surf

Steelix @ macho brace (physical wall)
Relaxed
252 hp, 252 def.
toxic/Stealth Rock/Rest
Stone Edge
EQ
gyro ball
Steelix is a horribleStealth Shuffler.
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Old August 20th, 2007 (1:27 PM).
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well aware of the kings rock situation. i plan on using it when i can, otherwise leftovers. claydol absolutely needs rapid spin, and i see no need for ice beam on calydol (points to milotic). just a desicion between reflect and light screen here
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Old August 20th, 2007 (1:33 PM). Edited August 20th, 2007 by Samson.
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ice beam is for dragons, especially garchomp (which is why you should make your Claydol +Def nature rather sp def). it is also for pokes like donphan, skarmory and a few others who will take you on in a stalling war.

as i mentioned, claydol should be bold/relaxed with more def evs and should hold light screen.

also, i'm not sure if you are aware, but King's Rock does not boost the flinch rate of moves that already have a chance of flinching the foe including Air Slash. king's rock basically gives certain moves that don't originally have a flinch rate a boost of about 8-12%. so basically, it's pointless. 60% flinch rate is good enough, so be thankful for that.

reduce milotic's hp evs to 240, and put the 12 into def, and then take around 8 out of sp atk, and put it into def. 100+ def evs + bold nature is magic in the making for sleeptalking milotic.
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Old August 20th, 2007 (1:38 PM).
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MILOTIC HAS ICE BEAM (fillerfillerfiller)
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Old August 20th, 2007 (1:42 PM).
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SLEEPTALK MILOTIC CAN'T ALWAYS HIT WHAT IT WANTS AND CAN'T STOP GARCHOMP WITH YACHE BERRY AND SWORDS DANCE.
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Old August 20th, 2007 (1:44 PM). Edited August 20th, 2007 by BrainDamage.
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hmmm. fine. i replace psychic with ice beam. im still not sure whether to use hitmontop or claydol....what would be more suited for my team.

P.S. if milotic isnt near death and doesnt need to use rest (yet) ill at least get one or maybe two (if im lucky) ice beams off man
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Old August 20th, 2007 (2:34 PM).
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SLEEPTALK MILOTIC CAN'T ALWAYS HIT WHAT IT WANTS AND CAN'T STOP GARCHOMP WITH YACHE BERRY AND SWORDS DANCE.
Hmm. I might have stolen your idea. But i have already stolen your idea of berries. Is that okay?
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SLEEPTALK MILOTIC CAN'T ALWAYS HIT WHAT IT WANTS AND CAN'T STOP GARCHOMP WITH YACHE BERRY AND SWORDS DANCE.
Flame Orb Milotic takes more damage than Restalk Milotic.
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Old August 20th, 2007 (3:41 PM).
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what? i didn't say it did. i told him to give his claydol ice beam because ice beam on a resttalking milotic isn't enough to take care of garchomp.
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no one has answered my question....HITMONTOP OR CLAYDOL????
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