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Old August 20th, 2007 (3:43 PM).
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To note: This is 4th Gen.

Ninjask @: Leichi Berry
Trait: Speed Boost
Jolly Nature
Substitute (To activate leichi berry)
Swords Dance
X-Scissor
Baton Pass Bp'er. Nothing more to say.

Porygon-Z @:Choice Specs
Trait: Download
Modest Nature
Tri Attack
Ice Beam
Thunderbolt
Dark Pulse. Bolt-Beamer

Snorlax @:Leftovers
Trait: Immunity (Yeah yeah, i know Thick Fat, right?
Careful Nature
Rest
Yawn (Just a Novelty or whatever. Don't feel like rebreeding).
Earthquake
Double-Edge

Rhyperior @:Leftovers
Trait: Solid Rock
Adamant Nature
Megahorn
Substitute
Stone Edge
Earthquake

Meganium @: Leftovers
Trait: Overgrow
Bold Nature
Aromatherapy
Leaf Storm
Reflect
Toxic

Garchomp @:Life Orb
Trait: Sand Veil
Adamant Nature
Dragon Claw
Fire Blast
Swords Dance. Not the best Team. But whatever.
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Old August 20th, 2007 (4:01 PM).
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To note: This is 4th Gen.

Ninjask @: Leichi Berry
Trait: Speed Boost
Jolly Nature
EVs: 252 Speed, 252 Attack, 6 HP...this thing can't take a hit, w/ or w/o EVs
Substitute (To activate leichi berry)
Swords Dance
X-Scissor
Baton Pass Bp'er. Nothing more to say.

Okay, it's fine...

Porygon-Z @:Choice Scarf
Trait: Download
Modest Nature
EVs: 252 Speed, 252 Special Attack, 6 HP
Tri Attack
Ice Beam
Thunderbolt
Dark Pulse. Bolt-Beamer

MS looks fine to me. Give it choice Scarf to outspeed common sweepers.

Snorlax @:Leftovers
Trait: Immunity (Yeah yeah, i know Thick Fat, right?
EVs: 252 HP, 100 Defense, 100 Attack, 58 Sp. D
Careful Nature
Rest
Curse
Earthquake
Return

Have no clue on the EVs...Curselax, pretty obvious...


Rhyperior @:Leftovers
Trait: Solid Rock
Adamant Nature
EVs: 252 Attack, 132 Defense, 126 HP
Megahorn
Avalanche/Thunderpunch
Stone Edge
Earthquake

Physical tank Ryperior...Yeah.

Meganium @: Leftovers
Trait: Overgrow
Bold Nature
EVs: 252 HP, 100 in each defense, rest in SP. Att.
Aromatherapy
Energy Ball
Reflect/light screen
Toxic/leech seed

Meganium will need to attack some, so energy ball for more staying power. the others you should consider, especially leech seed with all the blisseys with aromatherapy, but it's your call...


Garchomp @:Life Orb
Trait: Sand Veil
Adamant Nature
EVs: 252 Speed, 252 Attack, 6 Special Att.
Uh, three moves? Well, EQ

Dragon Claw/Outrage
Fire Blast
Swords Dance. Not the best Team. But whatever.
The one thing that bugs me is the fact that 4 pokemon are weak to ice types, which is bad...Starmie loves this team. Fighting types too, but to a lesser extent. Could use work, but not too bad. Also, a better phys. wall would be good, as heracross still murders meganium.
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if you're going to try to make use of leichi berry by outlasting with 3 substitutes, then you absolutely need to give Ninjask taunt. any thing with roar/whirlwind can just come into battle and haze ninjask before it even gets the chance to do anything. if you like the idea of using taunt, then replace x-scissor with taunt.

if you're running choice specs, you should give your porygon Adaptability and make sure it has Tri Attack. with choice specs + modest nature + tri attack + adaptability, it could very well 2HKO Blissey and any other special wall that thinks it stands a chance.

since you have careful nature, just give snorlax choice band.

Snorlax @ Choice Band
Careful Nature
252 ATK/252 SP DEF/4 HP
-Body Slam/Return
-Brick Break/Hammer Arm
-Fire Punch/Earthquake
-Crunch

if the point was to pass SD and speed to snorlax, then try this moveset:

Snorlax @ Leftovers/Chople Berry
Impish Nature
212 DEF/240 SP DEF/56 ATK
-Brick Break/Hammer Arm
-Crunch
-Yawn/Counter
-Protect

dark + fighting covers just about everything except for heracross =(. the strategies for the items and last 2 moves are yawn + protect + leftovers. this allows you to use yawn to the poke that switches in right when snorlax recieves the baton pass, follow up with protect to make them sleep and protect yourself from any damage as well as leftovers recovery. the second strategy is chople berry + counter + protect. chople berry reduces fighting damage, counter will shoot Close Combat right back in Heracross' face and Protect will allow you to scout for moves on the foes pokemon, and will save you from Explosion/Selfdestruct and Will-o-Wisp.

very good strategies will win you any battle.

i don't have an opinion on rhyperior... i hate it =/

on Meganium, replace Toxic with Counter and give Meganium Enigma Berry. Enigma Berry + Counter + Bold Nature make such a damn fool of Gyarados and Weavile, etcs. i always say meganium is like the perfect poke for it. your team is pretty defensive at is... plus, Meganium needs Light Screen support as well. so do that: replace Reflect with Light Screen. you may also consider Energy Ball instead of Leaf Storm, but it's all the same anyway.

give Garchomp Yache Berry. you know how i like those damage reducing berries.
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Old August 20th, 2007 (4:24 PM). Edited August 20th, 2007 by Samson.
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oops =/

PC can be annoying sometimes =/

EDIT: holy crap... Ninjask doesn't learn Taunt. umm, forget i said anything XD

ninjask is really no fun in using it other than for passing speed. otherwise, you're gonna need protect + focus sash if you want to get one swords dance in before something hazes you.
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..Adamant Chomp with Life Orb?:/ Go with Jolly..
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Well you can always predict a Haze on Ninjask. Personally this is the set I use.

-Substitute
-Swords Dance
-Baton Pass
-Protect

The Protect/Sub combo is guaranteed to protect Ninjask while annoying the heck out of your opponent.
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Well you can always predict a Haze on Ninjask. Personally this is the set I use.

-Substitute
-Swords Dance
-Baton Pass
-Protect

The Protect/Sub combo is guaranteed to protect Ninjask while annoying the heck out of your opponent.
If ninjask is the last pokemon it'll need an attack though. I guess you could have the same argument with umbreon, but I like Silver wind (3rd gen) or Xscizzor (4th) so ninjask can protect itself. That could work, but I'd put on an attack just in case.
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i'm not talking about haze, i'm talking about roar/whirlwind, which is a kind of hazing. i'm also talking about taunt, which will prevent it from BPing.

basically, if a ninjask comes into battle, gyarados, skarmory, tyranitar, and anything with roar/whirlwind/taunt will completely make ninjask useless.
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Well, yeah, but it's its weakness, so just switch. If you really want protection from roar, protect is fine, but I prefer an attack move.
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All right. Thanks for the Replies everyone. I have school again today. I'll make the changes by 2:00Pm or so.
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To note: This is 4th Gen.

Ninjask @: Leichi Berry
Trait: Speed Boost
Jolly Nature
Substitute (To activate leichi berry)
Swords Dance
X-Scissor
Baton Pass Bp'er. Nothing more to say.

Porygon-Z @:Choice Scarf
Trait: Adaptability
Modest Nature
Tri Attack
Ice Beam
Thunderbolt
Dark Pulse.

Snorlax @:Leftovers
Trait: Thick Fat
Adamant
Rest
Sleep Talk/Curse
Earthquake/Crunch
Double-Edge

Rhyperior @:Leftovers
Trait: Solid Rock
Adamant Nature
Megahorn
Substitute/Avalanche/Rock Polish
Stone Edge
Earthquake

Meganium @: Leftovers
Trait: Overgrow
Bold Nature
Aromatherapy
Leaf Storm
Reflect
Toxic

lol. OK

Garchomp @:Life Orb
Trait: Sand Veil
Adamant Nature
Dragon Claw
Fire Blast
Swords Dance.
Earthquake
Is there a reason why Garchomp had only 3 moves XDD
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If you allow your Ninjask to get Taunted I am going to have to lol. Surely Ninjask has the speed to outrun most Pokemon.

Anyways with my set you are guaranteed to pass a Swords Dance at least.

Who in their right mind would let a Ninjask (without attacks) be your last Pokemon. If you play right you can prevent that.
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If you allow your Ninjask to get Taunted I am going to have to lol. Surely Ninjask has the speed to outrun most Pokemon.

Anyways with my set you are guaranteed to pass a Swords Dance at least.

Who in their right mind would let a Ninjask (without attacks) be your last Pokemon. If you play right you can prevent that.
I have him as my first pokemon? can't you see that? But I know how to play anyways. Edit: I can always switch out.
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That was in response to posts above mines. Not your's in general. ^_^
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That was in response to posts above mines. Not your's in general. ^_^
Okay. thanks. I'm going to use your advice. I don't feel like using Ninjask. is Togekiss better?

Togekiss @:Leftovers/Wacan Berry/Yache Berry
Trait: Serene Grace
Calm Nature
Baton Pass
Wish
Nasty Plot
Air Slash.
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Okay. thanks. I'm going to use your advice. I don't feel like using Ninjask. is Togekiss better?

Togekiss @:Leftovers/Wacan Berry/Yache Berry
Trait: Serene Grace
Calm Nature
Baton Pass
Wish
Nasty Plot
Air Slash.
That's pretty much the Baton Passing set. Yeah most people consider using Ninjask cheap anyways.
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That's pretty much the Baton Passing set. Yeah most people consider using Ninjask cheap anyways.
Okay. thanks again. Which item is better? I currently have Leftovers on it. But Samson told he uses the berries on the Bulky pokemon. And it is quite bulky. So, Yache or Wacan Berry?
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Personally I am more of a Leftovers person. Berries give you awesome boosts but they are kind of one time use objects. Which I do not like. : /
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Personally I am more of a Leftovers person. Berries give you awesome boosts but they are kind of one time use objects. Which I do not like. : /
All right. Thanks. I will keep Leftovers on it.
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