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Old August 21st, 2007 (3:27 PM). Edited August 22nd, 2007 by luke.
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Alright, so I have a new team. I got positive feedback on other sites for it. Just wanted to see what you all thought of it:

Gliscor@ Life Orb
Nature: Impish
Ability: Hyper Cutter/Sand Veil
EVs: 252 Speed, 180 Attack, 78 Defense

Earthquake
Swagger
Stone Edge
Stealth Rock


Snorlax@ Leftovers
Nature: Careful
Ability: Thick Fat/Immunity
EVs: 252 HP, 180 Attack, 78 SpD

Return
Rest
Crunch
Sleep Talk


Gardevoir@ Choice Scarf
Nature: Modest
Ability: Synchronize
EVs: 252 SpA, 252 Speed, 6 HP

Psychic
Thunderbolt
Focus Blast
Shadow Ball


Probopass@ Leftovers
Nature: Bold
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 192 SpD, 168 Defense, 76 HP, 72 SpA

Toxic
Earth Power
Discharge
Magnet Rise

Starmie@ ???
Nature: Timid
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 Speed, 252 SpA, 6 HP

Surf
Ice Beam
Thunderbolt
Rapid Spin


Roserade@ ???
Nature: Timid
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 252 Speed, 252 SpA, 6 HP

Energy Ball
Weather Ball
Sunny Day
Sludge Bomb

EV Help Pleaseeeee
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Old August 21st, 2007 (3:42 PM).
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Alright, so I have a new team. I got positive feedback on other sites for it. Just wanted to see what you all thought of it:

Gliscor@ Life Orb
Nature: Impish
Ability: Hyper Cutter

Earthquake
Stone Edge
Stealth Rock
Knock Off/Swagger

Stealth Shuffler, it can handle the Swagger attack boost, Stealth a few times, then just Swagger, it should be able to outrun a lot of pokemon. And it completely ruins Swords Dance Weavile.

Octillery@ Wide Lens/Life Orb
Nature: Modest
Ability: Sniper

Surf
Ice Beam/Blizzard
Gunk Shot/Flamethrower
Haze/Thunder wave

Wide Lens ups accuracy so Blizzard and Gunk Shot hit more

Snorlax@ Leftovers
Nature: Careful
Ability: Thick Fat/Immunity

Return/Double edge
Rest
Crunch/EQ
Sleep Talk


Gardevoir@ Choice Scarf
Nature: Modest
Ability: synchronize

Psychic
Thunderbolt
Focus Blast
Energy Ball


Probopass@ Leftovers
Nature: Calm/Bold/Careful/Impish
Ability: Sturdy

Toxic
Swagger/Earth Power/Sandstorm
Discharge
Magnet Rise

Nice Steel Type killer, gets rid of Skarm, Metagross, Steelix and Forretress.

Breloom@ Toxic Orb
Nature: Adamant
Ability: Poison Heal

Seed Bomb
Focus Punch
Facade
Spore
Breloom is hopeless without Jask-support.
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Old August 21st, 2007 (3:44 PM).
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That is the best advice I have gotten all day. What would you suggest replacing Breloom? Because I'm not too fond of it either.
And what nature for Probopass?
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Old August 21st, 2007 (3:57 PM).
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Probopass needs Bold or Calm nature.

Togekiss is great at irritating the opponent to barely even attacking.
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Old August 21st, 2007 (4:08 PM).
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Heh... alright. But, I just used a Togekiss and I don't feel like using it again. I'd like to use a Pokemon who isn't Ground, Flying, Normal, Psychic, Rock, Steel, or Water. Basically, nothing that shares the same type as the rest of my Pokemon.
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Old August 21st, 2007 (4:12 PM).
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Maybe Jolteon or Starmie

Jolteon - helps Stealth Shuffle and Baton Passes

Starmie - Yes, its a water type but you need a Rapid spinner

If I were you, I'd take Octillery out. Low defense and speed don't work together nicely.
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Yeah, I was edging towards that. Any other Rapid Spinner?
And what move set for Jolteon do you suggest?
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Old August 21st, 2007 (4:18 PM).
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Ninjask is standard for Baton Passing

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Trait: Volt absorb
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 SATK/ 252 SPEED/ 4 HP

HP Ice
Thunderbolt
Substitute
Baton Pass

or

Thunder Wave
Yawn
HP Ice
Thunderbolt
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Old August 22nd, 2007 (3:58 AM).
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Gliscor@ Leftovers
Nature: Impish
Ability: Hyper Cutter/Sand Veil

Earthquake
Swagger
Aerial Ace
Stealth Rock

With all the Weavile leads, this might not be the best choice.

Octillery@ Wide Lens
Nature: Modest
Ability: Sniper/Suction Cups

Surf
Blizzard
Fire Blast
Thunder Wave

Go Octillery. This is ok.


Snorlax@ Leftovers
Nature: Careful
Ability: Thick Fat

Return
Rest
Crunch
Sleep Talk

Nice to see Snorlax. Standard Restalk, it's ok.

Gardevoir@ Choice Scarf
Nature: Modest
Ability: Trace

Psychic
Thunderbolt
Focus Blast
Energy Ball

Wow, Scarf on Gardy? I'd go with a more defensive spread, and some statusing moves, but this could catch a few things by surprise. What speed would it reach?

Probopass@ Leftovers
Nature: Bold
Ability: Sturdy

Toxic
Earth Power
Discharge
Magnet Rise

This is fine. Probopass is the coolest ever.
Wait. That's only five Pokemon. D; Forretress makes the best spinner imo.
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Old August 22nd, 2007 (8:32 AM).
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I'm just worried about its Fire weakness. Is it essential to have a Rapid Spinner?
Gliscor won't be my lead. That's just happens to be the first one I typed up. I was looking to make Probopass or Snorlax my lead.
Any other suggestions?

Edited team. Replaced Octillery and added the two Rapid Spinners I'd be willing to use.
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Old August 22nd, 2007 (9:53 AM).
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not many pokemon carry Flamethrower around anymore.

Starmie always maxes out SATK and SPEED.
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Old August 22nd, 2007 (12:58 PM).
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I still need a few items, ideas for EVs, and I would like to abide by the item clause, so either Snorlax or Probopass needs to have their item changed.

By the way, my Ralts has 31 IVs in Speed and 26 in Special Attack. Just checkedd.
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Old August 22nd, 2007 (1:00 PM).
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Then let probo hold an Enigma Berry.
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Old August 22nd, 2007 (1:02 PM).
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Where do I get that? I have never seen one before.
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Old August 22nd, 2007 (1:04 PM).
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GArdevoir needs Will "O" Wisp/Thunder Wave. Well, since its scarfed, that may make a difference. But Thunder Wave can give you speed edge, and burn kills physichal sweepers, just something to put out there.
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Old August 22nd, 2007 (1:06 PM).
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I'm not worried about its Speed for now with Choice Scarf, Maxed EVs in Speed, and Highest IVs possible as well.
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Old August 22nd, 2007 (1:09 PM).
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My Gardevoir has Will "O" Wisp, Psychic, Calm Mind, Energy Ball, and its EV's are 252 Special Attack, 100 Speed, 100 Special Defense, 56 HP. It works for me, but your set works too.
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Old August 22nd, 2007 (1:13 PM).
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Thanks for the advice. Does anyone know where I can find the Enigma Berry?
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Old August 22nd, 2007 (1:19 PM).
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I just checked the Bulbapedia, you can either get it through 3 Gen Game Shark, or Battle Revolution. Id leave him with Leftovers if you cant obtain the berry.
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Old August 22nd, 2007 (1:29 PM).
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Ahh.. I don't have that many coupons. I need other options.
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Old August 22nd, 2007 (1:34 PM).
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Not a bad set-up
I don't use a Rapid spinner and I'm doing fine

I have 1 general question that i Know is n00bish but I just wondering.

How can you "check" the IV's / EV's of a pokemon? I had to breed all my stuff then level it via exp share to get it the "correct" EV's it needed. And I never use iv's cuz they complicated.

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Old August 22nd, 2007 (1:44 PM).
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The easiest way to check your IVs is through what is called an IV battle. You find someone you can go with on WIFI, choose to have a Lv100 Battle, and then check your stats. Using the IV calculator at several sites, you can see what the IVs of your Pokemon are. Make sure you keep track of your EVs or the results will be inaccurate.

EVs are stat modifiers that you obtain from battling other Pokemon. You get 3 Special Attack EVs for defeating an Alakazam, 3 Attack EVs for defeating a Shiftry, etc. They're are better explanations on other sites like Serebii and what not. Go look. =)
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Old August 22nd, 2007 (5:46 PM).
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lol I know what they are, all i was asking is if there was a formula to figure out what ev's u got o.O cuz I breeded my poke's and had to train their EV's up so that they were what they were supposed to...
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Not a bad set-up
I don't use a Rapid spinner and I'm doing fine
Maybe because you don't have Focus sash...
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Old August 24th, 2007 (7:49 PM). Edited August 24th, 2007 by luke.
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I was wondering if I could still get some advice for new items for Probopass, Starmie, and Roserade.

And is it worth it sticking with a Timid nature for Roserade or should I just switch to Modest.
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