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Old August 22nd, 2007 (8:53 AM). Edited August 22nd, 2007 by BrainDamage.
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Hitmontop @leftovers (special wall/Rapid Spinner)
Technician
careful: 252hp 174 sp def. 84 atk
rapid spin
mach punch
aerial ace
pursuit/substitute

Weavile @Focus Sash (physical sweeper)
jolly: 252 atk, 252 spd 6 hp
night slash
ice punch
brick break
Swords Dance

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serene grace
Timid: 252spatk 172 spdef 80spd
air slash
aura sphere
thunder wave
roost

Gengar @ Wide lens (special sweeper)
Timid
252 Satk/252 Spd/6 Hp
Hypnosis
Shadow Ball
Focus Blast
Energy Ball

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Bold: 150 hp 240 def 120 Satk
hypnosis
recover
ice beam
surf

yes i know...blah blah blah restalking is better, etc. im going to experiment for myself. so dont even mention the milotic (or her item) unless its about the EVs

Steelix @ macho brace (physical wall)
Relaxed
252 hp, 172 def. 86 atk (bred with crappy speed IVs)
stealth rock
stone edge
EQ
gyro ball

make any suggestions needed, thanks in advance
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Old August 22nd, 2007 (9:48 AM).
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Hitmontop - No Comment.

Weavile - Make it the Swords Dance Sweeper. Swords Dance over Aerial Ace and let it hold Focus Sash.

Togekiss - This is Togekiss's EV spread: 252 satk, 172 sdef, 80 speed. Thunder Wave downs speed so you don't need many speed EVs.

Gengar - Thunderbolt over Energy Ball. It has a lot of more coverage

Milotic - Burn Orb is a trap to taking out HP. It takes more health away then any other Milotic. I would use your moveset but Milotic is holding Leftovers instead of Burn Orb.

Steelix - Okay, Steelix is one of the worst Stealth-shufflers around. It just fails so replace Stealth Rock and Roar with Stone Edge and Toxic/Rest.
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Weavilehow hte heck is he supposed to survive an attack after swords dance

Gengar: what the hell am i gonna do if i come across a swampert?

Milotic: marvel scale

Steelix:id rather keep stealth rock over toxic regardless
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Old August 22nd, 2007 (10:01 AM).
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Weavilehow hte heck is he supposed to survive an attack after swords dance It holds Focus sash

Gengar: what the hell am i gonna do if i come across a swampert? What the hell are you gonna do when you come across a Gyarados?

Milotic: marvel scale Its meant to absorb status inducers.

Steelix:id rather keep stealth rock over toxic regardless w/e
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Milotic @ Leftovers
Bold Nature
EVs: 148 HP / 240 Def / 120 SpAtk
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Recover
- Hypnosis

Standard Milotic. Would you take away Leftovers from Blissey and replace it with Burn Orb? Then don't do it to Milotic because that is how much you are hurting her.
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Old August 22nd, 2007 (10:23 AM).
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What the hell are you gonna do when you come across a Gyarados?
Stone Edge from Steelix

Punishment: that only adds to 508. you have to add another 2 to hp
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Gengar @ Wide lens (special sweeper)
Timid
252 Satk/252 Spd/6 Hp
Hypnosis
Shadow Ball
Focus Blast
Thunderbolt

Thunderbolt gives you more coverage over Energy Ball.
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yes, thats what everyone tells me. energy ball is for swampert or other ground or water types. if i come across gyarados i use stone edge
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yes, thats what everyone tells me. energy ball is for swampert or other ground or water types. if i come across gyarados i use stone edge
Well if you are targeting the comon bulky waters then Grass Knot does more damage to most of them.

Can Gengar learn Grass Knot?

EDIT: Disregard that Gengar can't.
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Old August 22nd, 2007 (10:34 AM). Edited August 22nd, 2007 by BrainDamage.
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no just energy ball and giga drain

EDIT: if gengar could learn grass know, i would have already had it up there

EDIT EDIT: ive been breeding feebas a few days and i got a feebas with these ivs:

hp: 20-26
atk: 24- 29
def: 27-31
sp ak: 20-26
sp def:0-3
spd: 14-19

special defense is horrible obviously, but its the closest ive gotten. in the end, its sp. def. will be about 20pts lower than it should though. should i keep this one or continue breeding?
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Stone Edge from Steelix
Steelix is weak to water and after a few DDs, Steelix is buttered toast.
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Old August 22nd, 2007 (10:47 AM). Edited August 22nd, 2007 by BrainDamage.
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steelix is also weak to ground but it withstands a few EQs. so y should physical water be any different. gyarados will die from 2 Stone edges. i calculated it from serebii. now to calculate gyarados's damage to me

EDIT: calculated- after even 2 DDs, steelix can still survive an aqua tail (barely)
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