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Old August 22nd, 2007 (12:30 PM).
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Adamant Nature
EVs: 252 Attack, 100 Speed, 100 HP, 58 Defense
-Agility
-Meteor Mash
-Earthquake
-Explosion

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Timid Nature
EVs: 252 Speed, 252 Attack, 6 HP
-Calm Mind
-Psychic
-Thunderpunch
-Ice Punch

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Bold Nature
EVs: 252 HP, 200 Defense, 58 Special Attack
-Mirror Coat
-Recover
-Surf
-Ice Beam

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Impish Nature
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Defense, 6 Attack
-HP Bug
-Rapid Spin
-Explosion
-Spikes

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Adamant Nature
EVs: ???
-Taunt
-Dragon Dance
-HP Flying
-EQ

Unsure on last spot. I feel so criminal...BTW this team I came up with in ten minutes, so it isn't perfect.
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Old August 22nd, 2007 (12:47 PM).
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Adamant Nature
EVs: 252 Atk / 156 Def / 100 Spd
-Agility
-Meteor Mash
-Earthquake
-Explosion

I'm not quite sure but maybe those EVs are better.

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Timid / Modest Nature
EVs: 252 Speed, 252 Attack, 6 HP
-Calm Mind
-Psychic
-Thunderpunch
-Ice Punch

Some kind of Elemental Zam. ok

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Bold Nature
EVs: 252 HP, 200 Defense, 58 Special Attack
-Mirror Coat
-Recover
-Surf
-Ice Beam

ok

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Impish Nature
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Defense, 6 Attack
-HP Bug
-Rapid Spin
-Explosion
-Spikes

good

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Adamant Nature
EVs: ???
-Taunt
-Dragon Dance
-HP Flying
-EQ

I am not that good at EVs. Yeah, looks fine.

Unsure on last spot. I feel so criminal...BTW this team I came up with in ten minutes, so it isn't perfect.
Great job for 10 minutes! :)
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Old August 22nd, 2007 (12:53 PM).
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My Metagross has 252 attack, 100 speed, 100 defense, 56 HP,and works perfectly for me. Same moveset too. Zam, looks perfect, Milotic, since thereisnt a Flame Orb yet, your set and EV's look good, but your not going Hypnosis instead if Mirror Coat? Nt exactly sure about HP Bug for Forretress, but whatever. Gyarados looks good.
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Old August 22nd, 2007 (2:31 PM).
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Adamant Nature
EVs: 252 Attack, 100 Speed, 100 HP, 58 Defense
-Agility
-Meteor Mash
-Earthquake
-Explosion

Use CB Gross.

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Timid Nature
EVs: 252 Speed, 252 Attack, 6 HP
-Calm Mind
-Psychic
-Thunderpunch
-Ice Punch

Use Fire Punch somewhere.

Milotic (F) @ Leftovers ** ...
Trait: Marvel Scale
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spd
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Surf
- Toxic

Better Milotic.


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Impish Nature
EVs: 252 HP / 64 Atk / 192 Def
-Earthquake / Rock Slide / Light Screen / Reflect
-Rapid Spin
-Explosion
-Spikes

If not using an attacking move shift the attack to a stat not named speed.

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Adamant Nature
EVs: EVs: 80 HP / 252 Atk / 176 Spd
-Taunt
-Dragon Dance
-HP Flying
-EQ

You need something to take Special hits. After Gyara dies I could potentially sweep you with CM/Psychic/Leech Seed/Recover Celebi.
I can beat this team with Boah.
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Old August 22nd, 2007 (3:00 PM).
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While I agree with almost all of your points, I firmly believe agiligross is better than CBgross. I've never used agiligross, and want to keep it like that. Also, is "Spd" speed or special defense? tough to tell...Also, can't my last slot fill those holes you speak of? I'd like a suggestion or two...thanks.
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Old August 22nd, 2007 (3:46 PM).
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Well if you believe he's better and you have never used Agilitygross than you wouldn't know, plus he doesn't even do anything for this team. CBGross is better.

Speed = Spd and Sp. Def = Special Defense.

I said you need something to take special hits fill in the blank it's not hard.
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Oh, no. Not blissey. I'm mad I gave into OUs but I REFUSE to use the puffball of evil. There are other special walls, why not use snorlax?
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Old August 22nd, 2007 (3:57 PM).
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If I were you I would replace those defense ev's with hp and your speed with hp also. Mainly because agiligross isn't really needed in 3rd gen a whole lot and you should replace agility with thunderpunch.
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Old August 22nd, 2007 (3:59 PM).
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Thunderpunch? This is 3rd gen remember...
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Old August 22nd, 2007 (4:00 PM). Edited August 22nd, 2007 by Sora_8920.
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Alakazam can't afford to take hit's. Fire punch over Calm mind. Like shinespike said.

Gyarados @:Leftovers
Trait: Intimidate
Adamant/Jolly Nature
Ev's: 48hp-84 hp/148 speed/252 attack.
Dragon Dance
Earthquake
Return
Taunt/Surf. If this was 4th gen, then you could've used Waterfall. but oh well. if you want, the Ev spread was kinda random. you'll have a total of 484 ev's if you choose to put 84 ev's on it.
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Old August 22nd, 2007 (4:01 PM).
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I heard CM was better...but I must've heard wrong. Fire punch over CM. Anything else?
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Old August 22nd, 2007 (4:02 PM).
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I know, you can get thunderpunch in 3rd gen. As a matter of fact it's the only gen you can get thunderpunch.
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Yeah but it's a special move...or is this for skarmbliss or something?
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Old August 22nd, 2007 (4:09 PM).
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It's for that, and for gyarados. I know gyarados doesn't have bad defenses but you have to admit it would be helpful if you have one pokemon left and it's a metagross.
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Okay, could you post a moveset for how to succesfully do this correctly, with EVs and all. Thanks.
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Alakazam can't afford to take hit's. Fire punch over Calm mind. Like shinespike said.

Gyarados @:Leftovers
Trait: Intimidate
Adamant/Jolly Nature
Ev's: 48hp-84 hp/148 speed/252 attack.
Dragon Dance
Earthquake
Return
Taunt/Surf. If this was 4th gen, then you could've used Waterfall. but oh well. if you want, the Ev spread was kinda random. you'll have a total of 484 ev's if you choose to put 84 ev's on it.
please. Will some expert tell if the ev's on Gyarados are useful. i've been pondering about it. and it was a ev spread i came up with.
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Brave~252 attack/200 hp/58 special attack
Thunderpunch
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please. Will some expert tell if the ev's on Gyarados are useful. i've been pondering about it. and it was a ev spread i came up with.
still waiting for a reply to my set. here it is again.

Gyarados @:Leftovers
Trait: Intimidate
Adamant/Jolly Nature
Ev's: 48hp-84 hp/148 speed/252 attack.
Dragon Dance
Earthquake
Return
Taunt/Surf.
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Yes it's helpful, is that what you wanted to hear?
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Not Surf. 3rd Gen...Taunt will do fine.
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Not Surf. 3rd Gen...Taunt will do fine.
Okay. thanks kazaam and sims. And you can use 44 or 52 ev's for hp on Gyarados.
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On, I have to say, that is a crewed up Milotic Moveset. Surf-Toxic-Sleep Talk-Rest. Sleep Talk randomly picks one move out of the rest, so it could repetitively use Toxic while asleep. Toxic is also unreliable. I would go classic set, with Hypnosis, Ice Beam, Surf, Recover. Just as effective.
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Old August 22nd, 2007 (5:25 PM).
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Okay, thanks guys. I'll use Itachi's EVs with DD, taunt, HP Flying/Return, and EQ. Okay, again, thanks.
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I'm not sure if it works this version-I can't stand 3rd gen-but maybe this EV spread may work for Gya:

252 ATK, 252 SPEED, 6 SP.DEF

Works for me...in 4th gen.
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Old August 22nd, 2007 (5:28 PM).
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That worked for me to, problem is, with hp evs it can take a stone edge.
 

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