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Old August 22nd, 2007 (3:13 PM).
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Ok I Am trying to make the "best"* team!I already have Special and Physical Sweepers(movesets at bottom).These pokemon are the ones I thought of.
-Shuckle
-Mantine
-Bastidon
-Dusknoir
-Milotic
-Togekiss
-Snorlax
-Probopass

If you think of any other pokemon that might work feel free to post them(but please no ubers)!please no movesets until I choose which pokemon I am going to use!The other members of my team!

Special Sweeper:
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Trait: Levitate
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 SATK/ 252 SPEED/ 4 HP
-Shadowball
-Thunderbolt
-Focus Blast
-Hypnosis

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Nature: Jolly
EVs: 252 ATK/ 252 SPEED/ 4 HP
-Night Slash
-Ice Punch
-Brick Break
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Old August 22nd, 2007 (3:15 PM).
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Regice is probably the best special wall besides Blissey.

Milotic and Snorlax are good.

The rest on ur list fail
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That's actually a rather stupid question. While the others have many candidates, blissey is hands down /THE/ best special wall in the game. The others are good but bliss is in another league. Simple as that.
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Old August 22nd, 2007 (3:19 PM).
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ok I am sorry but I absolutely hate Blissy I know it is the best but I hate it!sorry!
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Old August 22nd, 2007 (3:20 PM).
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Oh, well I hate it even more than you do, but it's the best...regice is the next best thing.
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Old August 22nd, 2007 (3:21 PM).
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Actually, Bastiodon has lots of weaknesses but it doesn't fail, with max hp it can be rather hard to take down with max spdefense although it is better as a physical wall. I suggest Blissey first, then snorlax, then milotic.
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Old August 22nd, 2007 (3:23 PM).
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Snorlax and milotic...forgot them. Good options as well. If you want the "best" special wall then use blissey though.
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Old August 22nd, 2007 (3:24 PM).
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I wouldn't say forget snorlax, and mirror coat milotic is better than blissey IMO.
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Old August 22nd, 2007 (3:27 PM).
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I think I'll go for Snorlax cause I love it(kinda) well can you guys make a Moveset for it?
heres mine!
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Old August 22nd, 2007 (3:28 PM).
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I wouldn't say forget snorlax, and mirror coat milotic is better than blissey IMO.
While I respect your opinion, nasty plot+electric move=dead milotic...but blissey...it is nearly impossible to take it down w/ special attacks alone. It is, by far, the best special wall, and can even use sofboiled and light screen (though nobody uses that).
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Old August 22nd, 2007 (3:30 PM).
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I think I'll go for Snorlax cause I love it(kinda) well can you guys make a Moveset for it?
heres mine!
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252 HP/252 Sp.Def/4 Atk
Careful
Thick Fat
-Rest
-Sleep Talk
-EQ
-Body Slam

Sorry but no,

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Old August 22nd, 2007 (3:32 PM).
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Yeah, that moveset is perfect, good 'ol curselax.
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Old August 22nd, 2007 (3:35 PM).
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Ok thank you for the moveset!
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did someone mention cresselia, bronzhong, spiritomb, dusknoir, and ludicolo? cuz they should. cresslia is scary good.
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Spiritomb is more for a status machine, mainly WoW and dusknoir isn't as good as curslax or milotic. Ludicolo would work but I say stick with your choice of snorlax.
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ok well i have chose my Special wall thank you all should I have a mixed sweeper or a supporter?
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no just nooo....

togekiss @ leftovers
timid nature
252 sp. atk 252 defence 6 hp.
- roost
- flame thrower
- air slash
- aura sphere

GREAT hp, high defences, high speed, and high sp. atk

he's like a speedy sp. sweeper, sp. wall. all in one combo.
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I don't use a mixed sweeper but it wouldn't hurt.
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Old August 22nd, 2007 (4:57 PM).
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Are you serious, that you need to ask the best special wall?

Blissey, obviously.
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no just nooo....

togekiss @ leftovers
timid nature
252 sp. atk 252 defence 6 hp.
- roost
- flame thrower
- air slash
- aura sphere

GREAT hp, high defences, high speed, and high sp. atk

he's like a speedy sp. sweeper, sp. wall. all in one combo.

Its a good set, unless you use it as the All mighty Paraflincher, which is usually

Air Slash
Thunder Wave
Aura Sphere
Famethrower/Grass Knot
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Okay Flamethrower on Togekiss is way overrated. If your making it a Skarmbliss counter than its fine, but the ony purpose flamethrower will basically ever serve you is Skarmory.

Air Slash covers Bug and Grass and Aura Sphere covers Steel and Ice. Theres really no need for it, unless taking down Skarmories is your only purpose, Of course most trainers won't leave a physical Wall out against a Special Sweeper.


For a wall, Blissy is the best but Milotic and Dusknoir are both very good. I ahve no knowledge of Snorlax so sorry there.
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Old August 22nd, 2007 (5:40 PM).
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Okay Flamethrower on Togekiss is way overrated. If your making it a Skarmbliss counter than its fine, but the ony purpose flamethrower will basically ever serve you is Skarmory.

Air Slash covers Bug and Grass and Aura Sphere covers Steel and Ice. Theres really no need for it, unless taking down Skarmories is your only purpose, Of course most trainers won't leave a physical Wall out against a Special Sweeper.


For a wall, Blissy is the best but Milotic and Dusknoir are both very good. I ahve no knowledge of Snorlax so sorry there.
Flamethrower can also deal with things like steelix(if no aura sphere) and scizors. It is perfectly usable so I would keep it.
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Old August 22nd, 2007 (5:43 PM).
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yes but most are ran with Aura Sphere and Air Slash, if your running it with both, than flamethrower isn't really needed.
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Like I said, scizor is another pokemon that it would be nice to have for. Plus you've got frosslass, and there are others I just don't have the time to list them.
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Oaky, fighting's not very effective on Bug, woah I had forgotten that. But still that brings you basically down to Skarmory, Scizor and Forretress. Frosslass's defenses won't hold out aganst more than two air Slashes anyways. Possibly not even 1.
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