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Old August 23rd, 2007 (8:14 AM).
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Yes i know it is an awful pokemon. But there is a point to it!

Swellow - [email protected] Flame orb
EV's 252 attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
Moveset:
Facade
Protect
Roost
Aerial Ace

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Old August 23rd, 2007 (8:26 AM).
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I wouldn't recommend Protect on it as its health will be drained away by the Orb. Steel Wing could be used instead to combat Rock Types.
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Old August 23rd, 2007 (8:27 AM).
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Are u kidding? swellow isn't bad... Flame orb with facade and guts is really good, somebody almost OHKOd my entire team once with that combo (except they had toxic).
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Old August 23rd, 2007 (8:28 AM). Edited August 23rd, 2007 by Captain Fabio.
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Well, the idea was to protect the first turn, get burnt, then his ability kicks in. Gets 50% more attack power, then facade, doubles the attack power, then you get the STAB power, thats like, 315 attack power...

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Also, whats with Breloom? How is that good?
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Old August 23rd, 2007 (8:35 AM).
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Doesn't the effect of Flame Orb kick in right away? Either way I advise you to use Steel Wing.
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Old August 23rd, 2007 (8:37 AM).
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Doesn't the effect of Flame Orb kick in right away? Either way I advise you to use Steel Wing.
I don't think so. Thats why you use protect, no damage and you can start to sweep!
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Old August 23rd, 2007 (8:44 AM).
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Guts does not negate Flame Orb effect. Use Toxic Orb since it won't last anyways.
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Old August 23rd, 2007 (8:47 AM).
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Guts does not negate Flame Orb effect. Use Toxic Orb since it won't last anyways.
Ahhh, i was told it does. Thats good. Thanks, that is one of the main things i needed someone to help me with. So, have a toxic orb on it instead.
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Old August 23rd, 2007 (9:09 AM).
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Flame Orb is better, and I don't know how many times I have explained it, but I really can't be bothered to type it out again today.

[email protected] Orb
Adamant
Protect
Facade
Brave Bird
U-Turn

Then you don't need Steel Wing.
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Old August 23rd, 2007 (9:11 AM).
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Flame Orb is better, and I don't know how many times I have explained it, but I really can't be bothered to type it out again today.

[email protected] Orb
Adamant
Protect
Facade
Brave Bird
U-Turn

Then you don't need Steel Wing.
Ahh ok, thanks man. Thats helps.
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Flame Orb is better, and I don't know how many times I have explained it, but I really can't be bothered to type it out again today.

[email protected] Orb
Adamant
Protect
Facade
Brave Bird
U-Turn

Then you don't need Steel Wing.
lol no, Swellow won't last, its goal is to do as much damage as possible. And it won't do that with Flame Orb. Flame Orb fails on ANY physical sweeper. Toxic Orb is the way.
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Old August 23rd, 2007 (9:17 AM).
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Ok, i am confuzed. Toxic or flame? :S
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A lot of people seem to think that Guts negates the Attack reduction from a burn. This in fact is not true, and you'll be losing more than you're gaining. Use Toxic Orb.
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Ok thank you Dragon Tamer Ed. You have been very helpful in my thread! :)
and thanks to everyone who helped me. Thanks guys! :D
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Yes i know it is an awful pokemon. But there is a point to it!

Swellow - [email protected] Toxic Orb
EV's 252 attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
Moveset:
Facade
Protect
Roost
Aerial Ace/Quick Attack(for those pesky focus sashes)

Any thoughs?
Um, I just added quick attack because it is really helpful for a focus sash switch in. For example weavile.
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Old August 23rd, 2007 (10:52 AM).
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Um, I just added quick attack because it is really helpful for a focus sash switch in. For example weavile.
Ahhh good idea! thanks! I think that would be usful!
 

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