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Old August 23rd, 2007 (2:45 PM).
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Which Meganium moveset is better?

Meganium @ ???
Sunny Day
Solar Beam
Synthesis
Toxic

OR

Meganium @ ???
Toxic
Giga Drain
Reflect
Synthesis

And what would be a good moveset for umbreon, which ISN'T a b-passer?

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Old August 23rd, 2007 (3:02 PM).
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Already suggested a moveset for Meganium in your previous thread, so I'll focus on Umbreon now.

Yawn
Pursuit
Wish
Protect

Basically Yawn and Pursuit to switching pokemon.. just thought about it. XD
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Old August 23rd, 2007 (3:04 PM).
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Umbreon is too weak to do any attacking really. It's a tank, trapper, support and BP.

Umbreon
- Mean Look
- Wish
- Baton Pass
- Toxic/Curse/Yawn/Taunt

Meganium
- Aromatheraphy
- Refelct/ Light Screen
- Leech Seed
- Energy Ball/Grass Knot
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Old August 23rd, 2007 (3:06 PM). Edited August 23rd, 2007 by Samson.
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actually, umbreon can pull off Curse + Assurance very well. after several curses, it can 2HKO even some of the more bulky pokes. it takes a more advanced battler to pull that combo off, however.
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Old August 23rd, 2007 (3:08 PM).
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Well any Pokemon after a few Curses can be quite potent. :laugh:
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Old August 23rd, 2007 (3:37 PM). Edited August 23rd, 2007 by Samson.
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sure, but a bulky umbreon who can recover HP with Wish and gets STAB Payback (which becomes 150 base power) is especially nice and unexpected.
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Nope, Toxic Trapping fails.

Assurance is kind of tricky to handle, I would use dark Pulse.
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Old August 23rd, 2007 (4:54 PM). Edited August 23rd, 2007 by Samson.
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dark pulse is even worse when umbreon doesn't have any means of increases special attack damage, unlike a physical attack like payback and curse.
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Old August 23rd, 2007 (5:05 PM).
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Umm... I think it can learn Payback, Assurance is a bit tricky. You need swagger for Assurance to double power.
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Old August 23rd, 2007 (5:10 PM).
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my mistake... i meant Payback. stupid NOA and their dumb translations makes me get confused between them.
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Old August 23rd, 2007 (5:19 PM). Edited August 23rd, 2007 by Punishment.
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Nope, Toxic Trapping fails.

Assurance is kind of tricky to handle, I would use dark Pulse.
Toxic Trapping doesnt fail. I've had my fair share of kills that way. It's just harder to do with the common Steel types and fighting moves.
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Old August 23rd, 2007 (5:46 PM).
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I've generally seen umbreon with the more nagging attacks and iirc it's a special wall. So stuff like toxic/thunder wave or w/e would probably be best. Not sure what else though
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Umbreon @ Leftovers
Max HP/Def, 4 SDef, Bold
Yawn
Wish
Protect
Charm

Use it. ;o
 

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