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Old August 24th, 2007 (8:47 AM).
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Can arceus learn almost every attack? , and wht good attacks do you think an arceus should have??
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Old August 24th, 2007 (11:09 AM).
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Its the best pokemon in the game. 120 base in everything? I hear the word broken!
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Old August 24th, 2007 (11:11 AM).
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What the hell doess it matter what you teach him? As garra said, He's the best in the game! Make him a mixed sweeper, if you wan't.
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Old August 24th, 2007 (11:14 AM).
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What the hell doess it matter what you teach him? As garra said, He's the best in the game! Make him a mixed sweeper, if you wan't.
Make him a tank. Make him a physical sweeper. I hate it when poeple have it on Wifi.
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Or make him both. While being a special sweeper. Godly.
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Ye. Just have a low defense/special defense nature. HA. BUT MY NINJASK CAN OUTRUN IT! TAKE THAT GOD!
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... Arceus can be defeated if Mewtwo gets a few Aura Spheres on him :)

I prefer not to make him hold any plates, keep him as normal type
Give him like

Arceus
Item : Life Orb
Judgement
Extremespeed(Must-have)
FireBlast
Brick Break

Just my opinion...
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Arceus-???Plate
Judgement
Stone Edge
Ice Beam
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Mixed Sweeper. Nice, huh? Hits every type.
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Arceus >>>>>>>>>>>> Best Poke

No, I believe Dark Void is Darkrai's move and only. Its base stats are broken, unbelievable. Best Move for Arceus >>>>>>>>>> Judgment.

I think it's also crazy that Satoshi Tajiri (or whatever the creator of pokemon is) is gone nuts about this poke.
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Even if it IS the best Poke, Id still use Mewtwo :P
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Old August 24th, 2007 (7:59 PM).
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Arceus >>>>>>>>>>>> Best Poke

No, I believe Dark Void is Darkrai's move and only. Its base stats are broken, unbelievable. Best Move for Arceus >>>>>>>>>> Judgment.

I think it's also crazy that Satoshi Tajiri (or whatever the creator of pokemon is) is gone nuts about this poke.
It's because it's supposed to be the "god" of Pokémon, so they really did something that was strictly better than others.

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Even if it IS the best Poke, Id still use Mewtwo :P
Well, Mewtwo was the first "best" Pokémon, so it deserves some popularity.
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It's because it's supposed to be the "god" of Pokémon, so they really did something that was strictly better than others.
That is true.. but still I don't reckon Satoshi should of made a Poke of broken stats. Wi-Fi battlers that use GS/AR and have Arceus is quite unfair.
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Old August 25th, 2007 (2:47 AM).
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I got two in trades AGES ago, and now I've got these sets on them:

Special Sweeper

Arceus @ Insect Plate
Rash Nature
EVs: 252 Sp. Atk, 252 Speed, 6 HP

Calm Mind
Judgment
Earth Power
Dragon Pulse

Nope, no Bolt-Beamer for me. Is Shiny =X

Extremekiller (Physical Sweeper)

Arceus @ Silk Scarf
Adamant Nature
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Attack, 6 Speed

Swords Dance
Extremespeed
Earthquake
Shadow Claw

367 Attack Stat + Extremespeed + SD + STAB + Silk Scarf = Fearsome.

Of course, I'll only use Arceus against others if they allow me. I just like him, for some reason, can't hurt to have a God or two in your box/party now, can it? :P
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Aruseus @ Leftovers
Multitype
EVs: 204 HP/252 Attk/52 SDef -- Adamant
Swords Dance
Extremespeed
Recover
Shadow Claw

Best Aruseus set ever. This is not opinion this is a fact.
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Aruseus @ Leftovers
Multitype
EVs: 204 HP/252 Attk/52 SDef -- Adamant
Swords Dance
Extremespeed
Recover
Shadow Claw

Best Aruseus set ever. This is not opinion this is a fact.
Hmm... I always thought Judgment was a good move that Arceus should have. I don't know why you said that.. :s
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Aruseus @ Leftovers
Multitype
EVs: 204 HP/252 Attk/52 SDef -- Adamant
Swords Dance
Extremespeed
Recover
Shadow Claw

Best Aruseus set ever. This is not opinion this is a fact.
.... Nope its not the best, it's walled by Skarmory and Steelix you see? blah It needs a sp. atttack man
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arceus, was supposed to be a secret, but we all figured it out. I think they should not have these ****ing nintendo events though. Because it makes getting poke's aggravating as piss....
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EVs: 172 SPEED/ 172 SATK/ 160 HP

Judgement/Thunderbolt
Ice Beam
Earthquake
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EVs: 252 HP/ 172 DEf/ 80 SDEF

Ice Beam/WoW/Toxic
EQ/WoW/Toxic
Recover
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More of a defensive one, but Cresselia is better than defense Arceus.
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Hmm... I always thought Judgment was a good move that Arceus should have. I don't know why you said that.. :s
It's a good move, but he can do better.

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.... Nope its not the best, it's walled by Skarmory and Steelix you see? blah It needs a sp. atttack man
Who uses Steelix in Ubers? Skarmory I can see, but Steelix would die in an instant. You have to worry about Forretress Explosion more. All Skarm can do is phaze you. And besides, every other Aruseus set has many many counters. Other Aruseus sets are not likely to guarentee a OHKO on pretty much the whole Uber metagame after a SD, and it doesn't even need Spd because you strike first. Giratina and Lugia stop it, sure, but you know what? They stop pretty much anything trying to set up, and this Aruseus stands a much better chance against them than, say, Life Orb or CM. It is by no means a perfect unbeatable Pokemon, but it is the best Aruseus set you're going to get. Ever.
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Who uses Steelix in Ubers? Skarmory I can see, but Steelix would die in an instant. You have to worry about Forretress Explosion more. All Skarm can do is phaze you. And besides, every other Aruseus set has many many counters. Other Aruseus sets are not likely to guarentee a OHKO on pretty much the whole Uber metagame after a SD, and it doesn't even need Spd because you strike first. Giratina and Lugia stop it, sure, but you know what? They stop pretty much anything trying to set up, and this Aruseus stands a much better chance against them than, say, Life Orb or CM. It is by no means a perfect unbeatable Pokemon, but it is the best Aruseus set you're going to get. Ever.
That's just bragging, and the funny part is that you're wrong. It is walled by steelix, who even yourself said wouldn't last in uber. Okay, so if it can't beat some BL pokemon, what makes you think it is the best? Wait, doesn't TTar counter that as well? Yup, it resists both attacks. Yeah, the best. That's a rather bold claim, and a wrong one at that. Heatran counters it, metagross to some extent, not the best set. Period.
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Because Steelix can't last in Ubers. All it can do to Aruseus is slowly get killed by it and phaze it, where it is promptly murdered by Specs Mewtwo or something. Same goes for Heatran and Tyranitar. The fact is, nobody uses them in Ubers. Shedinja would wall half the OU metagame, but it's hardly ever seen there because of the abundance of Sandstream/Stealth Rock/Spikes. Speaking of Shedinja, Kygore can't beat it at all. But would you really suggest Ancientpower on it? Kyogre needs the standard, common moves it has to be at its best. I'm not saying Aruseus can beat anything, I'm saying it has a better chance at winning than other Aruseus. Sure, maybe Steelix can beat it, but Steelix is utter fail in Ubers Pokemon is not 1 on 1, it's 6 on 6. If Aruseus cannot take the opponent, you scare it off with something else. Steelix may wall Aruseus, but Umbreon, a max-hp no SDef Umbreon, walls special Aruseus.

And how am I bragging?
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And how am I bragging?
I dunno, maybe saying this is the best set ever for Arceus? Hmm, what a toughie. IT isn't though. Pokemon may not be one-on-one, but if a BL pokemon walls it, that's not a good thing. Arceus is too powerful anyways, but that set weakens it. If you want coverage, go boltbeam, earthslide, or dragon and fire moves together. That set is more of a novelty. Again, any physical wall, especially one w/ iron defense, beats it down. Aggron can beat it, and it's a UU wall...
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Shedinja walls any Kyogre set without a SE HP, Ancientpower, or Toxic. So is Kyogre really better with those moves?

Kyogre is walled be Shedinja unless it has Ancientpower, a SE HP, or Toxic. So is Kyogre really better with those moves?

Also that is not bragging. Bragging would be "I made this Aruseus set and it's the best. It beats everything. Aern't I smart?"
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But shedinja is thw only poke with wonder guard. In other words, it's an exception, so don't bring it up. If aggron can counter arceus, despite its movepool, there's no way it's the best set. Almost any steel type walls it, and so do many others. Groudon would hurt that thing a lot, A LOT. So that's what bragging leads to. Maybe a dragon pulse-flamethrower combo would be better? Yeah, as no pokemon I can think of besides blissey counter it. Oh wait, now we put in a physical move like extremespeed, and, whala! I give you a good mixed Arceus set! Not too tough realy, but I hope you get my point. You were bragging, but I won't get into that, as it would be useless for the thread.
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