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Old August 24th, 2007 (7:31 PM).
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Basically Its A Lucy's Shuckle. I wanna here your opinions. THANKS!
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Old August 24th, 2007 (7:33 PM).
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Well...not really. IT is walled by any steel type, and aromatheripists like blissey are also common. Maybe substitute?
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Old August 24th, 2007 (7:38 PM).
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maybe, but i have never battled a metal type. anyone else's opinion?
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Well, metagross and skarmory are VERY common. Forretress and steelix are around as well. You can't do anything to blissey, or the steel types, so maybe bide...encore maybe? I'm clueless, because shuckle has a worse movepool than its HP...but you won't survive using that shuckle. Lucy kinda sucks...just bring a steel type and you get a win. So, yeah, that's that. Substitute and rest are a decent combo...I guess.
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Old August 24th, 2007 (7:57 PM).
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Well, yeah. She's easy...if you've had some decent luck. Really though, shuckle is made of fail, I'd use dusclops/dusknoir. It at least can will-o-wisp, and all those ghost moves.
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Old August 24th, 2007 (8:13 PM).
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actually he isn't. thats why you have more than one poke on you. i'm gonna keep that moveset.
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Old August 24th, 2007 (8:18 PM).
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Really though, too many pokemon wall that moveset, especially without EVs and a decent nature. IT's suicide really...shuckle needs something that can stand up to more than half of the standard pokemon in netbattle/WiFi. Poison and steel types...most walls...destroy shuckle with that moveset. Rest needs to stay, but the others...meh. Probably toxic too. How else would it inflict damage?
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it protects me and the sandstorm works in there.
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*Poisoned pokemon switches out* *blissey comes in and uses aromatherapy*

Pretty much what happens. When your opponent sees shuckle come out, they know toxic is coming, so they'll switch to a counter, skarm, metagross, gengar, blissey, whoever, and you'll be doomed...that's the harsh reality if you use shuckle, especially with that moveset. Safeguard is an option...
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yes well a blissey doesn't need aromathreapy if he has senre grace. and besides shuckle is a last choice but if the use doesn't have any of those in play, shuckle is its own powerhouse.
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yes well a blissey doesn't need aromathreapy if he has senre grace. and besides shuckle is a last choice but if the use doesn't have any of those in play, shuckle is its own powerhouse.
That staement is flawed. I have to make this quick for reasons I can't explain now. Blissey uses aromatherapy to heal THE WHOLE TEAM of status, not just itself, and the ability you're thinking of is natural cure, which ONLY heals bliss.
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yes i understand. reasons that can't be explain, ehh. i will tell you how blissey does in battles. don't worry.
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Blissey is hands down the best special wall in the game. I really can't talk right now, but if it's an annoying wall with 714 max HP you want, blissey all the way. Shuckle is so predictable, especially with that moveset, as any vet player will figure it out VERY fast.
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Shuckle needs one attacking move, EQ.
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Shuckle may have the highest defense but.. it isn't really good because its stats are all high on Def and SDef but the rest aren't that good. Perhaps Regirock or Steelix for better defense pokemon. On to that Shuckle set.. in-game sets are basically aren't that good either like a computer player's set.

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Shuckle needs one attacking move, EQ.
Nope, it's attack is 10, you will promise me to NEVER get Shuckle any sort of damaging moves

lol Any of you know what Power Trick does? It swaps attack and Defense.... if it gets that godly 230 attack, then use Gyro Ball, Stone Edge, Earthquake
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Old August 25th, 2007 (6:51 AM).
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trick room ftw
add trick room and you'll do soem major damage
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You're talking about Power Trick. You need some attacks that lower the opponents chance of attacking if you use Power Trick. It would be a real killer if you run into some wall pokemon with special attacks. Then, if you run into a physical pokemon, swap out.

Here's a killer: Power Trick + Trick Room = The BEST Physical Sweeper ever. You'll need another pokemon with Trick Room though. It can be a real pain.
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While that strategy seems really good, I think this is 3rd gen, based on the fact we're talking about the pike queen. Shuckle just can't do much in 3rd gen IMO.
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