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Started by Gabri August 25th, 2007 3:26 PM
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Do you think it will be possible to reduce the Global Warming?

wakachamo

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How can Global Warming turn into an instant Ice Age? >_> If there's an example of what Global Warming can cause, it's definitely not The Day After Tomorrow. There's no definite way to stop it from constantly growing, but one thing is for sure. Considering the technology we have at the time, scientists say that it's possible to slow down the process at up to 90%, if used correctly. In my opinion, that's a lot of help.

Vê lá se consegues ter um bocadinho mais de senso comum, MysticManyula. ;P

Haha. Hmm. People produce carbon dioxide all the time. Using your computer or most electrical processes will create carbon dioxide. It's excessive processess such as burning fuels, aeroplanes and industries that are the main reasons.
...how stupid can you get? Sorry to sound rude or anything, but electrical processes such as "using your computer" as far as I'm concerned, don't run on fuel aka gas etc., hence they don't release CO2. Devices that burn fuels are the cause for concern about the whole CO2 business. Electricity-related problems are already beeing solved through alternative energy, such as solar/wind power. And using a laptop or something doesn't burn fuels.
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How can Global Warming turn into an instant Ice Age? >_> If there's an example of what Global Warming can cause, it's definitely not The Day After Tomorrow. There's no definite way to stop it from constantly growing, but one thing is for sure. Considering the technology we have at the time, scientists say that it's possible to slow down the process at up to 90%, if used correctly. In my opinion, that's a lot of help.

Vê lá se consegues ter um bocadinho mais de senso comum, MysticManyula. ;P
Do you think I meant it would freeze everywhere tomorrow? I'm talking of ten thousands of years...

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Ha, I got a funny story I heard from my brother about turning your electronics off but not unplugging them. My brother said he saw a clip of an interupting broadcast that went all over England (I think it was England) and that the reporter person had a screen behind him that showed a bar that was mostly filled and he said that it was the amount of energy being used up by people in England. He then told them to unplug all their appliances and electronics and the bar went from being 7/8 full to like, 3/8 full. Yes, a few electronisc/appliances left plugged in take up VERY LITTLE energy and produce few carbons, but when a whole country does something like that, then a LOT of energy is saved, not to mention less CO2 being produced. >_>

Anywho, I don't see how people think that the Global Warming problem is just a government plot of some sort. First of all, how can such idiots deny it? And if you REALLY think its true that the government is up to something with it by telling people to use up less energy and to produce elss pollution, what bad is to come from it? Do you think your government plans to use this saved energy to build some ultra-deadly laser device or something? o.O Man you guys are scrwed up if you think that.

Just curious, but some people stated that Global warming is a natural process? Besides the fact that animals (including people, as we count as animals) breathe out CO2, trees exist to counter-act that CO2 using photosynthesis. SO therefor, the only way I can think of that CO2 naturally blocks it off without the assistance of man's inventions, is from animals breathing; which I have already stated is counter-acted by plants. The GreenHouse effect is from having too much CO2 (along with other pollutants) in the atmosphere which trap in sunlight therefor heating the earth that much more. All the CO2 in the atmosphere is probably not made naturally, but made by us humans. So in my opinion, Global Warming is FAR from a natural process.

As for why the Ice Age happened along time ago, its because a volcano ahd erupted and the mass amounts of ash had blocked out sunlight (almost) completely, thus cooling the earth.

edit: Actually Waka, at the moment, most of the world relies on Coal Plants or Nuclear Plants for most of their energy. Yes we use solar and wind plants as well, but don't produce as near as much electricity as a Coal Plant or Nuclear plant does. The best plant IMO is Hydro because it can produce as much electricity as Coal or Nuclear plants but yet is still clean. The only problem with them is that they can cause floods. x:
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.how stupid can you get? Sorry to sound rude or anything, but electrical processes such as "using your computer" as far as I'm concerned, don't run on fuel aka gas etc., hence they don't release CO2. Devices that burn fuels are the cause for concern about the whole CO2 business. Electricity-related problems are already beeing solved through alternative energy, such as solar/wind power. And using a laptop or something doesn't burn fuels.
Oh dear. Then as far as I'm concerned, how stupid can you get? ¬_¬
Almost every country in the world now uses electricity. The majority of which comes from burning fossil fuels to power steam turbines. Where do you think electricity comes from? Even wikipedia can tell you that.
Currently using fossil fues is far more efficient than greener options, which is why many countries are hesistant to change. And what about countries that can not afford or are less developed to run these (such as developing african settlements)?
It's quite arrogant for you to say something and then call me 'stupid'- conversly when you're completely wrong yourself.


In terms of another Ice Age, a 'Day After Tommorow' scenario is somewhat possible. Global warming effects the Northern pole the most, the ice would melt and cause flooding of the cold water down towards Europe and America, where global warming has a less effect and where wind can carry the colder currents. It's possible but not a guaranteed situation.

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In tens of thousands of years, I think global warming is the last thing to worry about.
I'm not believing Global Warming at all just yet. The world has been going through phases throughout all it's 4.5 billion years. XP;
Thoughts like these make me sad.
Yes, as it will happen in some years, let's use C02 like crazy! Let's create the "burn fuel randomly day"! Sigh.

Sea level is slowly but constantly rising, half of the glaciars in the Northern and Southern poles are melting, temperatures have increased in the last 30 years more than in the 19th Century and the first half of the 20th together. Want a proof? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming

And it won't take thousands of years, the scientists say that the effects will be even more noticeables and even catastrophic in 40-50 years...

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..how stupid can you get? Sorry to sound rude or anything, but electrical processes such as "using your computer" as far as I'm concerned, don't run on fuel aka gas etc., hence they don't release CO2. Devices that burn fuels are the cause for concern about the whole CO2 business. Electricity-related problems are already beeing solved through alternative energy, such as solar/wind power. And using a laptop or something doesn't burn fuels.
Oh my god.

Even something convenient like a single laptop takes 8 lbs/3.5 kg of coal to power.

I'm not believing Global Warming at all just yet. The world has been going through phases throughout all it's 4.5 billion years. XP;
What do you mean "just yet?" There is plenty of research out there to settle your so-called "belief" on Global Warming. You just choose not to give a crap.
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wakachamo

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Oh my god.

Even something convenient like a single laptop takes 8 lbs/3.5 kg of coal to power.
Okay so maybe I got pwnd. :< But my point still remains. A big fraction of CO2 release isn't mainly focused on electrical devices.

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Yeah! Because planting a tree, turning off the TV, and changing a couple of light bulbs is too much work.
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Thoughts like these make me sad.
Yes, as it will happen in some years, let's use C02 like crazy! Let's create the "burn fuel randomly day"! Sigh.

Sea level is slowly but constantly rising, half of the glaciars in the Northern and Southern poles are melting, temperatures have increased in the last 30 years more than in the 19th Century and the first half of the 20th together. Want a proof? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming

And it won't take thousands of years, the scientists say that the effects will be even more noticeables and even catastrophic in 40-50 years...
So you think it'll freeze in Africa in 40-50 years? Don't think so...and the earth had bigger problems to cope with, like enourmous rocks from space (meteorites) which smach in on the surface and make dust block the sunlight for a really long time, and even if there's going to be an Ice Age in the coming century (what won't come, or will it?), earth will recover, like it always does...I mean, if we won't die from plagues or starvation because all the food will dry, we'll freeze to death when that Ice Age comes...We probably won't live when one of these things happens...

~Cya, UnitRico

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So you think it'll freeze in Africa in 40-50 years? Don't think so...and the earth had bigger problems to cope with, like enourmous rocks from space (meteorites) which smach in on the surface and make dust block the sunlight for a really long time, and even if there's going to be an Ice Age in the coming century (what won't come, or will it?), earth will recover, like it always does...I mean, if we won't die from plagues or starvation because all the food will dry, we'll freeze to death when that Ice Age comes...We probably won't live when one of these things happens...

~Cya, UnitRico
I wasn't talking about a repentine Ice Age. I meant other cathastrophes like floodings, migrations of all the people in the Ecuador, droughts, etc. Ovbiously, we won't freeze this century, we are talking about warming < <

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I wasn't talking about a repentine Ice Age. I meant other cathastrophes like floodings, migrations of all the people in the Ecuador, droughts, etc. Ovbiously, we won't freeze this century, we are talking about warming < <
Yup. But the future is in danger.
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I wasn't talking about a repentine Ice Age. I meant other cathastrophes like floodings, migrations of all the people in the Ecuador and other countries like The Netherlands and Denmark, droughts, etc. Ovbiously, we won't freeze this century, we are talking about warming < <
Yeah, but most of the warming is because earth recovers from an Ice Age, not only pollution...Global Warming can't be stopped, because it's mostly natural, and if we would stop it, in about ten thousand years the earth will cool down to an Ice Age, as it always was, but stopping Global Warming will cause the earth from extremely cooling down instead of "normally" during such Ice Ages.

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um... do I really need to tell you?
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Oh my goodness! I can't believe there is a thread like this! You have no idea how much I care about saving the world from global warming. It's one of my major goals in life. However, I believe that global warming CAN BE STOPPED. I may sound crazy saying this, but I truely belive that scientists could make a sort of "filtration" system to get rid of excess greenhouse gases, but still leaving enough to keep the world at a close to average temperature. By filtration, I mean a chemical that can actually get rid of greenhouse gas in the atmosphere. Thank you for posting this thread. This issue to me is more important than war itself.


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Oh my goodness! I can't believe there is a thread like this! You have no idea how much I care about saving the world from global warming. It's one of my major goals in life. However, I believe that global warming CAN BE STOPPED. I may sound crazy saying this, but I truely belive that scientists could make a sort of "filtration" system to get rid of excess greenhouse gases, but still leaving enough to keep the world at a close to average temperature. By filtration, I mean a chemical that can actually get rid of greenhouse gas in the atmosphere. Thank you for posting this thread. This issue to me is more important than war itself.
Ironically enough, we DO have a filtration system; thing is, it works backwords frm what you want it to do. Its called the Catalytic (Sp?) Converter, which is ut into all automobiles. This alters the result in a incomplete combustion chemical equation. Instead of the Incomplete Combustion producing CO (Carbon monoxide) the Catalytic Converter is used to make it CO2 instead. CO2 may cause the Greenhouse ffect, but at least thats less dangerous then filling our cities with dangerous CO. x:
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Oh my goodness! I can't believe there is a thread like this! You have no idea how much I care about saving the world from global warming. It's one of my major goals in life. However, I believe that global warming CAN BE STOPPED. I may sound crazy saying this, but I truely belive that scientists could make a sort of "filtration" system to get rid of excess greenhouse gases, but still leaving enough to keep the world at a close to average temperature. By filtration, I mean a chemical that can actually get rid of greenhouse gas in the atmosphere. Thank you for posting this thread. This issue to me is more important than war itself.
Ehrm...aren't you just a bit overreacting? I mean, war causes more victims then GW, I guess

Better don't...just slow it down, don't stop it. Then in 10,000-40,000 years, when the new Ice Age comes, it'll be damn cold :)

I still like your idea though, but it's full of fantasy. But hey, scientist can do huge things these days, so there's still hope for you :)

~Cya, UnitRico

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I have hope too that GW can be reduced or even stopped (but very very difficult to stop), but some countries aren't helping (I'm not talking about a especific country, I'm talking about some countries). But I still have hope.

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There is no doubt something is going on, no doubt at all. Can you believe we didn't have a summer (a.k.a. wet weather, lots of clouds and barely a sunny day ) this year? And last year it was a heatwave during August and July. =.=
The weather is completely out of balance. =O

It's true that Global Warming (and possibly Cooling too) are a natural process, but usually it goes very slow and takes many, many years. But the last 150 years or something, the temperature has risen a lot. 150 years is a very short period in the Earth's life. =O
Glaciers are melting and in a few years they will disappear. In Switzerland e.g., the mountains are filled with snow during winter, this year almost no snow to be seen.

You can't deny something is happening, and it's not for the best.
And if you say you don't care, 'cause you won't be here when it happens, think about those who live in the future. =/

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I haven't read the whole thread, so this may have already been said.
BUT, I HIGHLY suggest you all go out and read the book "State of Fear"
it's a book by Michael Crichton. and while, it is one of my least favorites of his in terms of keeping my interest, it presents facts about global warming.
such as: while yes, there is an incline in temperature currently, it is LESS than the warming trends of the past. in fact, the highest the average temperature was in the last century was in (I believe) 1974. that's right, it was hotter 30 years ago. and in the 40's (despite the fact that there were factories putting out carbon) the average temperature went DOWN for several years.
not to mention, theoretically, if global warming is caused by gasses being trapped in the atmosphere thus raising tempearture....theoretically the atmosphere should be heating up too, is that not correct? well, to test that, satelites were sent up.
truth is, yes, it is heating up. but not at a rate that is considered dangerous by any means. AND it's a rate considerably less than that of earth's land
Translation: while the atmosphere is slightly heating up, it's not enough to justify the warming trend down on earth. that is caused by something else.
could just be a trend. there are lots of seemingly unexplainable warming and cooling trends.
and all the talk about glaciers melting and such. yes, it sometimes happens. but in some areas, the exact opposite is happening. example: Iceland which is 12% covered in ice, is actually GAINING ice currently.
it's all hype in my mind.
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Ehrm...aren't you just a bit overreacting? I mean, war causes more victims then GW, I guess

Better don't...just slow it down, don't stop it. Then in 10,000-40,000 years, when the new Ice Age comes, it'll be damn cold :)

I still like your idea though, but it's full of fantasy. But hey, scientist can do huge things these days, so there's still hope for you :)

~Cya, UnitRico
hahaha I knew I'd get some criticism! XD But it wouldn't suprise me if some great technology came out in the next decade.
lol I am fantasizing a little aren't I?


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c02 isnt the only contributer to global warming but its pretty much what makes it so bad.

Lets say we dont stop. Eventually the ice caps will melt. Shutting down the ocean currents. Warming the ocean and cooling the earth. The cooling is good the warming is bad. If the water warms up the frozen methan in the ocean WILL melt back into a gas. And methan is even worse the co2.

So if global warming from c02 does its toll and doesnt kill us the methan release will.

You wanna live somewhere where it gets to 300 degress in the winter? Of course you dont care because youd be dead quicker then you could relize how hot it really is >_>


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Indeed. Our distant future is looking perilous. But I'm sure that the world will come up with a way to power all of our needs without polluting the environment. You gotta give us some credit. If we're smart enough to figure out that something is gonna cause a problem in the future you can bet on us to be able to find a solution with less consequence. In the meantime there's no point in crying about the average temperature rising a few degrees. Or the effects that has on us. We cant stop it. We didnt actually cause global warming anyway.
Sure, the fuels we burn release gases that aid the warming. But do we really have another choice? Life is one big race for survival and when a new gadget is invented it's intended to (usually) help (some)people live better lives. :/
Can you really blame our ancestors for not knowing what we do now? No. Society is like a person in itself. It had to grow up a bit (The dark ages, yadda yadda,) to actually achieve something. Getting trillions of people to cooperate for the better good is no easy task. Especially when there is so much greed in the world along with the many good intentions. And it's easy for someone who started out with good intentions to be warped by power and money to start the seed of greed.
I'm not saying that global warming is an insignificant issue. To be perfectly honest I'm as concerned as all of you people in this thread are about it. I just think that getting too exited about it is pointless because that makes it look like we dont quite understand things.
Unfortunately it's gonna be hard to root out the greedy people in power just because they have power. But while the world is ruled by those who are ignorant about or dont care about global warming it'll never be addressed. I support some mesures to cut back on global warming but we cant just quit our "addiction" to fossil fuels cold turkey.
Doing so would kill too many people's prosperity. It would bring poverty(Jobs lost) and make it harder to communicate(Leading to misunderstandings that cause strife) and would also make it difficult to move what we need to the areas that really need it(famine, lack of medicine and other neccessities).
So, IMO, There is nothing we can do but maybe cut back a tiny bit on our consumption and hope that we discover a solution in the near future.