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Old August 26th, 2007 (7:01 AM). Edited August 26th, 2007 by cocoteh.
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Ok Can you rate my teams. Can you give it a score out of ten, can you tell me which is the best one and can you recommend any moves etc...


1.Empoleon Bold
LV.85
Hydro Cannon
Surf
Waterfall
Hydro Pump

Attack 162
Defense 213
sp.atk 229
sp.def 207
speed 144

2.Tyranitar Bashful
Lv.64
Dark Pulse
Payback
Stone Edge
Earthquake

Attack 200
Defense 172
sp.atk 142
sp.def 152
speed 113

3.Salamence Impish
Lv.53
Crunch
Fire Blast
Dragonbreath (To be replaced by dragon claw)
Fly

Attack 162
Defense 133
Sp.Atk 124
Sp.Def 112
Speed 130

4.Combee (female)-in training
NO DECENT MOVES

5.Shinx-in training
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6.Eevee (to become espeon)-in training
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OR

6.Blissey

OR

ANY POKEMON THAT YOU THINK WOULD BE APPROPIATE
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Old August 26th, 2007 (9:10 AM).
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Your Empoleon scares me. Thats a horrible moveset you gave it. I'm no expert on Empoleon but I am good enough to know that, that Empoleon sucks

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Trait: Santstream
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 ATK/ 172 HP/ 80 DEF

Stone Edge
Crunch
EQ
Avalanche

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Trait: Intimidate
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 SATK/ 252 SPEED/4 HP

Hydropump
Fireblast
Dracometeor
Dragon Pulse

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Trait: Torrent
Nature: Modest/Calm
EVs: 252 SATK/ 172 HP/ 80 SDEF

Surf
Grass Knot
Stealth Rock
Toxic/Aqua Jet
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Old August 26th, 2007 (4:50 PM).
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i didnt really have many strategies for my pokemon, just attack. i have to agree with you there, my empoleon does suck for lv.85. but thanks for your advice, i appreciate it
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Old August 26th, 2007 (4:55 PM).
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He tells you that cause it leaves very little coverage. Imagine your Empoleon Vs my Torterra. All your moves won't take it out. But after that failed attempt, one Earthquake will wipe out Empoleon. However, with, say, Ice Beam, you can take out my Torterra in one shot. Hence why all water moves are bad.
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Old August 26th, 2007 (5:01 PM).
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I would have to say a 5 since you asked.
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Old August 26th, 2007 (5:22 PM). Edited August 26th, 2007 by Persona.
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I'm no expert on Empoleon but I am good enough to know that, that Empoleon sucks
Empoleon doesn't suck. It has a good special attack base, a wide movepool, and an interesting typing that grants it with many resistances. Yes, it has below average speed and a few weaknesses, as it makes it more difficult to have it survive for long periods of time, but everything has its strong and weak points.
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thanks for the comments guys, i appreciate it
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Old August 26th, 2007 (6:42 PM).
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Agreed. Even though it's Steel type may make it weak to CC/Aurasphere/Earthquake, it's a great pokemon to use for a wall. Especially when you consider how many types Empoleon walls, then that's pretty impressive.

Sure, Empoleon may suck to the eyes of those who Close combat it and use type advantage. well that's exactly why people think it sucks. And that doesn't give people a say in that. Using type advantage doesn't give people a say in anything in whether something sucks or not. Use something that does normal damage on an Empoleon, and see how much HP it has left.

I've even witnessed an Empoleon that survived Close combat. I don't think it was STAB, really. I don't even know what pokemon I used. Though it did survive. And I have to give it credit for surviving too.

So all in all, just because it's slow doesn't mean it sucks. That just means it's slow. There are lots of pokemon with speeds with 260 and under. So saying Empoleon sucks because it's slow is being biased against slow pokemon in general..which isn't right =\
He never said Empoleon sucks, he said THAT Empoleon sucks. Meaning that particular Empoleon set. And he gave a better one.
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Empoleon is wonderful. O_O;

It has amazing Special Defense. Also along with the right EV's it can survive stabbed Earthquakes and Close Combats. Penguinpal6 , I understood what you said, but you don't have to be harsh.

This Empoleon is Bold, so you could rebreed it and retrain it.

Try this set.

Empoleon @ Leftovers
Nature: Bold
EV" 252 HP/124 Sp Atk/124 Def
-Surf
-Ice Beam
-Protect/Rest
-Stealth Rock/Grass Knot
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I do believe that set is standard. Well done. No sarcasm intended, of course.
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thanks so much foryour comments especiallyon my empoleon, it did look pretty bad according to all u people
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